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2011 Post Office Closure List: USPS to Shutter 3653 Locations

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It was only a matter of time before the USPS was going to have to change the way it did business. There was talk of canceling Saturday delivery, which had the potential to save $2 billion. Earlier this year, the Post Office announced that it would close “thousands” of locations and now that has come to fruition. Postmaster General Patrick Donohue listed the list earlier today as part of the announcement of their “expanded access” program – which would put more locations in businesses, town halls, grocery stores, and community centers.

No post office will be closed, just “branches” and “stations,” which are supposedly smaller and have no mail processing facilities (and sometimes no carriers). The full list of “affected areas” can be found here. Not all the locations listed are slated for closure, they’re just going to be “investigated.”

While I feel bad for the staff of the post offices being closed, it’s hard to argue against the ones they chose. Over three thousand of them generated less than $27,500 in annual revenue, which equates to fewer than two hours of workload a day. That’s a clear indicator that those post office locations are probably not critical, if they generate fewer than $27,500 a year. Another 385 will be closed not because they didn’t make enough money, but because there were too many “locations” nearby (at least five within 2 miles). Now, locations include stamp kiosks but those 385 generated less than $600,000 in annual revenue. Finally, 188 had less than a million in revenue and 5+ locations within half a mile.

The bigger question is whether it’ll work.

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45 Responses to “2011 Post Office Closure List: USPS to Shutter 3653 Locations”

  1. Wilma says:

    I live right across the street from a post office. Since I moved here over 15 years ago it has always been steady with foot traffic. There’s no parking for patrons except for curb side. The near misses are many. I’m wondering if this ones on the list. They’ve survived several mergerings with other surrounding post offices. It’s nice to have a post office in every town but not financially sound in this day and age. We have UPS, FEDX and can get postage on the internet.

    People call it snail mail but my bills always seem to get to their destination sooner than I need them too. Have received several packages of items I bought on EBAY in record time and I asked for standard shipping. So speedy delivery in my opinion is not the problem. Managing resources is.

    • Vegasmax says:

      Well, I have beed saying this for years. I wanted to sell the whole system to the employees and their union for one dollar, and let them run it as they see fit. And allow others to deliever the mail as well.
      Question: why do we have to RENT a box at the post office? It looks like to me it should be 100% free! And I would charge you a monthly fee the Deliever mail to your home or business unless you are home bound! Make sense right, but the GOVT., does everything backwards!
      The USOP system is dead…let it die, it will not be here in 10 years or so anyway. They can not make money doing what they are doing, and I don’t want to put any more of my money into it! Make it a private company, sell it to the employees and their union and then let them run it like a business. Or just close the doors. Also no postmasters in any town under 500,000 people! We have then in twons of 200 or less!!! DUMB STUFF….sell it for a buck get rid of it now and see if they can make it on their own…and NO BAIL OUTS !!!!

      • JB says:

        The USPS is a private company – it is not tax payer or government funded.

      • Amy Hubbard says:

        it’s thinking like yours that has our economy in the crapper it is…heck why not just abolish everything that’s not new millennium…everyone can be on unemployment! down with old and up with the unemployment and poverty rate!! good for you…glad we don’t all have your narrow minded way of thinking!

  2. Dave says:

    I think all of these locations need to go. They lived for too long as a fat beauracracy and now that there’s competition, they have to change and adapt. The one thing I’ve read is that they project that at some point they’ll end up delivering mail 3 days a week. I’m ok with this – I’ve never had anything shipped to me via USPS that couldn’t wait one extra day to arrive. I’ve heard people say that they need mail every day for critical things like Medicines, etc – if its that critical, don’t ship it snail mail USPS, ship it overnight fedex or UPS…

    • Shirley says:

      “I’ve heard people say that they need mail every day for critical things like Medicines, etc”

      All it takes is a bit of knowledgeable planning. If something as critical as meds is needed you simply order them earlier. You do see the remainder each time you take them, right? The PO can’t be blamed for a person’s own procrastination.

    • andrea says:

      Usps delivers THEIR packages!!!!!

    • Anonymous says:

      dave I hope you realize that more human beings loose their employment less dollars will go to the economy. In regards to your snail mail I believe a person of intellect could use a better language. I wish your not one of those who stands in line just to buy one stamp, or mail cheap, but gambles at casinos, or eats at expensive resturants.

  3. Steven Tucker says:

    > That’s a clear indicator that those post office locations are probably not critical, if they generate fewer than $27,500 a year.

    Sounds like a great argument to also discontinue rural telephone, internet, electric and water services.

  4. Long overdue. With declining revenues something like this needs to be done.

  5. John Branscum says:

    I think they should have considered Saturday closing before they considered closing some Post Offices.

    • Shirley says:

      I believe that Saturday closing is still on the table as a viable option. In fact, M-W-F only delivery is actually being considered.

      • Peter says:

        Agree Shirley: Anything but a total shut down of a postal depot.

      • momo says:

        what about the people who work during the week & can;t get there mail til. saturday..then it backs up, bill are late you risk shou off on utilities.gas ect… I know people who go to work way before the p.o opens.and don;t get home until it closes for the day…the cycly continues the whole week …and off on saturdays and sundays…I think that saturdays opening is very Important for the working people…

    • skylog says:

      i also thought that an alternate day, such as tuesday was being considered for closure. this way, those that may not be able to make it during the week could still go on saturday.

  6. nickel says:

    Unfortunately, the savings from these Post Office closings is expected to total something like $200M per year. When compared to the $8B+ deficit that the USPS just rang up last year, it’s going to take a lot more than this to fix the problem.

    • Dave says:

      I agree, but every $200M helps. :)

      • skylog says:

        not to get into the defense argument, which i wish would actually happen (but that is another story), but all of this for $200 million OR just make like 6 less f-35s?

  7. Vegasmax says:

    Well, I have beed saying this for years. I wanted to sell the whole system to the employees and their union for one dollar, and let them run it as they see fit. And allow others to deliever the mail as well.
    Question: why do we have to RENT a box at the post office? It looks like to me it should be 100% free! And I would charge you a monthly fee the Deliever mail to your home or business unless you are home bound! Make sense right, but the GOVT., does everything backwards!
    The USOP system is dead…let it die, it will not be here in 10 years or so anyway. They can not make money doing what they are doing, and I don’t want to put any more of my money into it! Make it a private company, sell it to the employees and their union and then let them run it like a business. Or just close the doors. Also no postmasters in any town under 500,000 people! We have then in twons of 200 or less!!! DUMB STUFF….sell it for a buck get rid of it now and see if they can make it on their own…and NO BAIL OUTS !!!!

  8. Jobst says:

    What they do has to be streamlined. They have to get rid of the employees that are dead weight. They are paid way to much to carry salaries of people who don’t do their jobs leaving the work for someone else. Cut staff by at least 20% so the rest will earn their keep. Close some of those backwoods PO’s and consolidate them into larger ones.

    • sigsec says:

      If you want to get rid of the over paid dead weight, that would eliminate the managers all the way to the Post Master General. I agree.

  9. Jim B says:

    We don’t need 6 day a week delivery!

    Cut deliver/pickup to Monday/Wednesday/Friday then let the SAME EMPLOYEES sort mail on Tuesday/Thursday (and Saturday if needed)!

    You cut 50% of the mileage on Post Office trucks, you cut 50% from the fuel budget and you get rid of 50% of the overpaid Union slaves!

  10. Jim B says:

    Stores mailing out ads should pay the same postage rates as an individual citizen would pay. I am tired of all the junk mail that triples the labor needed to sort and deliver mail.

  11. Peter says:

    It would seem to me that closing down Saturday offices and delivery would be the best solution. I have a P.O.B. and it would be a terrible situation for me if our office was to be shut down. I depend on my P.O.Box for security and convenience.

  12. Anonymous says:

    The post office makes money but they aren’t allowed to keep it. Any extra is put into the General Fund. Most businesses have slower parts of the year and make up for it in others. You can’t make up for it if it is taken away. This has been being done for dozens and dozens of years. It’s a nice hidden tax that we the taxpayers were (mostly) not aware of. Yes, some offices need to close but many have been closed to keep certain “special” offices open for the employees who are making these decisions. The tax we are all paying is wrong. The post office has not been in the red all of the time. It just looks like it on paper and the government keeps putting the money in the US General Fund. Hmmmmm. Sounds like some BS to me. Other businesses call this stealing.

  13. Vicki Whittiker says:

    The post office makes money but they aren’t allowed to keep it. Any extra is put into the General Fund. Most businesses have slower parts of the year and make up for it in others. You can’t make up for it if it is taken away. This has been being done for dozens and dozens of years. It’s a nice hidden tax that we the taxpayers were (mostly) not aware of. Yes, some offices need to close but many have been closed to keep certain “special” offices open for the employees who are making these decisions. The tax we are all paying is wrong. The post office has not been in the red all of the time. It just looks like it on paper and the government keeps putting the money in the US General Fund. Hmmmmm. Sounds like some BS to me. Other businesses call this stealing.

  14. J. Rice says:

    Why not just cut delivery down to 3 days a week and that way postal workers would not lose their jobs

  15. Grandma Truth says:

    Is anyone aware that the postal service is the largest “living wage” employer in the U.S.? If the post office shuts down – or goes private, what will happen to our economy then?

  16. hoboken says:

    USPS should be dissolved and all mail should be handled by UPS & FED-X. Private industry will trump government every time. Government is the only employer that can operate at a loss and remain in business. Government is not an employer, government’s job is to keep country and citizens safe.Get government out of industry and you will see country and states prosper.
    I don’t know about all post offices but mine has 6 customer windows and you can only find 1 or 2 open when needed. Poat office is a lot like other business with employees that could care less about customer service.
    Citizens in this country need to realize that to prosper you have to contribute. You cannot have 40% trying to support 60%. It will never balance. Get off your lazy butt and work!!

    • Anonymous says:

      the post office is not run by the goverment, we got no money or taxes from anyone. the reason you go into your post office and find only 3 window clerks is because the management has cut so many jobs and want 3 clerks to do the job of six. most of the people on this site do not have a clue about what they are taling about.

  17. larry pennington says:

    do away with saturday delivery.

  18. Andy Moran says:

    It is so simple,just run it like a business! We have three of the location close to me in ohio and they need to be combined into one! They need to thin the herd and cut out the waste by no wednesday or saturday deliveries. making it a 10 hour day for postal drivers so they get their 40 hours in. Only have stations open on saturday for people who work during the week. One person said that the driver don’t have enough to deliver on ten hours so leave the post offices open longer on those’s four days to again help people who cann’t get there during the normal hours! the postal drivers get a nice four day workweek and we save alot of money with almost the same service! it really simple if you look at the obvious!

  19. Andy Moran says:

    When you clearly have examples like fedex and UPS and DSL, it’s so easy to watch or hire their directors to show the government how to run with efficiancy. But that would be to easy!funny how we complicate a simple solution and we will wonder and wonder about an easy answer!
    Give me the old America, were people had common sense!

  20. Missy May says:

    Well, whilst we are looking at cost cutting..why not stop congress from “handling” the post office’s retirement money…it seems a lot more billions from USPS profit goes to congress to “handle” than gets to its intended destination (USPS retirement funding). Shouldn’t be hard to find one congress member (or maybe it would be) to do simple subtraction and tell us all…WHAT is the $$$$ amount that is siphoned off??????

  21. Missy May says:

    So, when is EPA, FEMA and OSHA and the rest going to be reviewed for cost cutting measures based on the their revenue generation? That will be a welcomed effort!!!! Can’t come to soon. If fact..why not start with them!

  22. Mr Obvious says:

    Hmmmm Let’s see. How to unsuccessfully run a business…. Unions? No…..Government? No .Wait now , Wait a second. Let’s COMBINE the 2 and see how that works. Brilliant!!

  23. Donald shaver says:

    Weston, Georgia Post Office is on the list for closings. Our Post Office is part of the community and provides services that other facilities cannot or will not provide such as helping the elderly fill out money orders, etd.

    Rural Post Offices were never intended to make a profit. They are here to provide a service. The nearest full service Post Office will be ten miles away.

  24. sigsec says:

    It is really hard to explain to the public how the PO really works and what really goes on. First of all we all pay taxes but the PO has never taken a tax dollar. We have restrictions on what we can charge or sell. Fed Ex and UPS don’t. We have guaranteed 1 day delivery with express mail or you get your money back. Fed Ex and UPS don’t have to honor the 1 day delivery. Fed Ex and UPS don’t deliver to a lot of rural areas. The PO delivers it for them. The majority of PO employees know their jobs and work hard to get it done. The management that makes from $65,000 to beyond $150,000.00 are the dead weight that don’t know how to get the mail out properly. They are very inefficient. The Post Master General makes more than any Congressmen or Senator and is nothing but a figure head. There are about 1 supervisor to every 4-7 employees. They also receive bonuses that they don’t deserve. The employees run everything and get paid less with no bonuses. Congress takes billions of dollars from the post office every year. We are their cash cow. Congress wants money paid in for a 75 year period in 10 years. How would you like to get a 30 mortgage but they tell you it must be paid off in 4 years. The access money in our account from Csrs is over $50 billion dollars and FERS is over $6.9 Billion dollars. This is our money and Congress does not want to give it back, even though it is legally ours. We believe the reason they avoid this demand is because they probably already spent it which would be illegal and somebody would end up in jail. The post office actually made money the last 4 years but after Congress takes the $5.5 Billion it leaves us in the red. They want to blame the union which has nothing to do with this. The union is there, whether your a member or not, to make sure you get a fair wage, benefits, and can not be booted out the door just because a supervisor dislikes you. There are many things that do have to be changed in the post office because of the volume of mail going down. We all understand this. But if Congress would give us our access money back we could slowly work these problems out. Rep.Stephen Lynch introduced House Resolution 1351 which is a great resolution and last heard that it is backed by 205 house committee, which is almost half. House Resolution 2309 is introduced by the corrupt Rep. Darrell Issa who would love to crumble the Post Office. We presume it is to benefit himself as always or in our opinions he could have his hand in the cookie jar and doesn’t want anybody to find out that the cookies are all gone. Before cutting the post office down please talk to some postal employees and ask them questions. The next time you stand in line forever to mail a parcel or buy some stamps, please remember that there is only one clerk at the window because the 3 or 4 supervisors only care about their bonuses and not customer service. Please write or call your Congressmen and tell them to back House Resolution 1351. This helps the Post Office and the customers which we feel are the most important people in our job. Without the fans there is no team. Without the customers there is no Post Office.

    • Jerry says:

      sigsec, thanks for writing this to people that dont understand, I was a carrier for 40 years now they want to cut our health ins and pensions, congress is full of them, most are attorneys. Does that tell you something.

      • sigsec says:

        Jerry: Thank you for the support. I have been writing e-mails and blogs for about a month now and it gets so frustrating. As soon as you explain to the people what is really going on in the PO they start to bring up how they are sick of supporting the PO with their tax dollars. I wish you could send a 2×4 through the blogs to knock some sense into them. They don’t want to believe what really goes on in PO. They just believe people like Issa. They are so brainwashed. Thanks again.

        • Jerry says:

          Sigsec, go http://www.postalnews.com and read what they want to do after jan1 to our health ins. good old obamacare, going to really get the shaft. I hope the public wakes up and votes out all the SOB’S WE HAVE NOTHING BUT RICH people in congress and the senate. the people don’t really understand what is going to happen to them.

  25. Joanne Ard says:

    We attended a Meeting on 9-12-2011 concerning the Stark, Kansas post office. The man that there from the USPS couldn’t answer any of our questions. WHY was Stark, Kansas chosen but the post office that we are suppose to go to when our post office closes has less traffic than we do? WHY doesn’t the Internet business qualify for walk in traffic, when I take all my packages there? I was told by a Post Master in Fort Scott, Ks to learn how to do unlined postage so I wouldn’t back up the lines at the window. I was under the impression that I was supporting my post office. I told UPS I wouldn’t ship with them because I wanted to support the Stark post office and than to find out I wasn’t has me quite angry!! We have about 20 businesses in this area–we could have been over the $27,500 figure if my sales were counted and other people in the area! WHY weren’t we given heads up a year ago–We love our town and we do not want to see the town die because the USPS can’t manage to run their business in the black–quit the commerials–quit the waste–close some of the post offices in the big cities and let the people go 2 blocks to another post office!! LEAVE our post office alone!!!!


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