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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Investment/Tax pros like to call this strategy &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/tax-loss-harvesting.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;harvesting your losses&lt;/a&gt;&quot;. You sell your beaten up fund to get your tax loss, buy another fund that holds similar stocks to stay in the sector for 31 days (if you prefer), &amp; then sell the subustitued fund after 30 days &amp; buy into your old fund. You get the tax loss, get to stay in the same sector for the month period, &amp; then buy your old fund again at a lower pricer. Esy as pie!

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Investment/Tax pros like to call this strategy &#8220;<a href="http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/tax-loss-harvesting.html" rel="nofollow">harvesting your losses</a>&#8220;. You sell your beaten up fund to get your tax loss, buy another fund that holds similar stocks to stay in the sector for 31 days (if you prefer), &amp; then sell the subustitued fund after 30 days &amp; buy into your old fund. You get the tax loss, get to stay in the same sector for the month period, &amp; then buy your old fund again at a lower pricer. Esy as pie!</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What some people don&#039;t realize is that if you do buy back into the same stock within the 30 days and violate the wash rule, in the IRS&#039;s eyes your new cost basis includes the disallowed loss. So you don&#039;t completely lose the ability to deduct the loss, you just delay it until you sell the new shares.

Ex: If you buy at $1000, sell at $800. The next day you decide that was a mistake. You buy back in at $800. You cannot deduct the $200 this year, but when you eventually sell the shares, you will essentially deduct the loss from the first sale since your cost basis is $800 + $200 disallowed loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What some people don&#8217;t realize is that if you do buy back into the same stock within the 30 days and violate the wash rule, in the IRS&#8217;s eyes your new cost basis includes the disallowed loss. So you don&#8217;t completely lose the ability to deduct the loss, you just delay it until you sell the new shares.</p>
<p>Ex: If you buy at $1000, sell at $800. The next day you decide that was a mistake. You buy back in at $800. You cannot deduct the $200 this year, but when you eventually sell the shares, you will essentially deduct the loss from the first sale since your cost basis is $800 + $200 disallowed loss.</p>
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		<title>By: A Non</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Non</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you mean &quot;tax refund&quot; not &quot;tax return&quot;

Another important aspect is that the $3,000 is taken off your AGI (bottom of the first page of you 1040 tax form) - this amount affects many other taxes - earned income, credit, liability for alternative minimum tax (AMT), phaseout of personal exemption, phaseout of itemized deductions and possiblly other items.

However, selling at a loss and buying another similar investment reduces your cost basis compared to the original investment.  For example, if you took the $7,000 sale proceeds in your example and reinvested in a similar investment that subsequently increased in value to $10,000 then you would be liable for tax on the $3,000 gain, but this would be at the lower tax rate levied on capital gains.

In summary, selling at a loss accomplishes two things: provides an immediate tax reduction in exchange for a subsequent tax; and converts a taxable gain at a lower rate (cap gains) into a tax loss at a higher rate (earned income tax rate)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you mean &#8220;tax refund&#8221; not &#8220;tax return&#8221;</p>
<p>Another important aspect is that the $3,000 is taken off your AGI (bottom of the first page of you 1040 tax form) &#8211; this amount affects many other taxes &#8211; earned income, credit, liability for alternative minimum tax (AMT), phaseout of personal exemption, phaseout of itemized deductions and possiblly other items.</p>
<p>However, selling at a loss and buying another similar investment reduces your cost basis compared to the original investment.  For example, if you took the $7,000 sale proceeds in your example and reinvested in a similar investment that subsequently increased in value to $10,000 then you would be liable for tax on the $3,000 gain, but this would be at the lower tax rate levied on capital gains.</p>
<p>In summary, selling at a loss accomplishes two things: provides an immediate tax reduction in exchange for a subsequent tax; and converts a taxable gain at a lower rate (cap gains) into a tax loss at a higher rate (earned income tax rate)</p>
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		<title>By: Miss M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t done this before but I&#039;m certainly thinking about it this year, I&#039;ve generally stuck with buy and hold. I&#039;ve got an investment or two that in hindsight, don&#039;t seem like such a good idea. If I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s a good investment, why hold on to it... I&#039;m waiting a little longer before I do it, want to look at my expected taxes this year first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t done this before but I&#8217;m certainly thinking about it this year, I&#8217;ve generally stuck with buy and hold. I&#8217;ve got an investment or two that in hindsight, don&#8217;t seem like such a good idea. If I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s a good investment, why hold on to it&#8230; I&#8217;m waiting a little longer before I do it, want to look at my expected taxes this year first.</p>
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