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		<title>By: loser</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/50-fun-facts-about-debt.html/comment-page-1#comment-365290</link>
		<dc:creator>loser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where is the picture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where is the picture?</p>
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		<title>By: Splendor</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/50-fun-facts-about-debt.html/comment-page-1#comment-304120</link>
		<dc:creator>Splendor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 18:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love number 41!</description>
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		<title>By: saladdin</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/50-fun-facts-about-debt.html/comment-page-1#comment-303353</link>
		<dc:creator>saladdin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 07:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i held back trying not to get this started again...


saladdin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i held back trying not to get this started again&#8230;</p>
<p>saladdin</p>
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		<title>By: p</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/50-fun-facts-about-debt.html/comment-page-1#comment-303341</link>
		<dc:creator>p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 03:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of us do not know that;

USA is not a democracy but republic country. and
Federal reserve is Privately held company by 12 or so largest world banks.  

Do not take my word for it, do your own independent search on yahoo or google for few sites (various pros and cons) yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of us do not know that;</p>
<p>USA is not a democracy but republic country. and<br />
Federal reserve is Privately held company by 12 or so largest world banks.  </p>
<p>Do not take my word for it, do your own independent search on yahoo or google for few sites (various pros and cons) yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Santos</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/50-fun-facts-about-debt.html/comment-page-1#comment-303318</link>
		<dc:creator>Santos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 21:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a beautiful example of an unhelpful discussion ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a beautiful example of an unhelpful discussion <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cap</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/50-fun-facts-about-debt.html/comment-page-1#comment-303258</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 06:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>calling it independent is one thing (even if its not truly independent, as we all know). calling it &#039;privately own&#039; is another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>calling it independent is one thing (even if its not truly independent, as we all know). calling it &#8216;privately own&#8217; is another.</p>
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		<title>By: saladdin</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/50-fun-facts-about-debt.html/comment-page-1#comment-303222</link>
		<dc:creator>saladdin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 18:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Federal Reserve System is not &quot;owned&quot; by anyone and is not a private, profit-making institution. Instead, it is an independent entity within the government, having both public purposes and private aspects.

However, the Federal Reserve is subject to oversight by Congress, which periodically reviews its activities and can alter its responsibilities by statute. Also, the Federal Reserve must work within the framework of the overall objectives of economic and financial policy established by the government. Therefore, the Federal Reserve can be more accurately described as &quot;independent within the government.&quot;


The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. The stock may not be sold, traded, or pledged as security for a loan; dividends are, by law, 6 percent per year. 

http://www.federalreserve.gov/generalinfo/faq/faqfrs.htm

saladdin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Federal Reserve System is not &#8220;owned&#8221; by anyone and is not a private, profit-making institution. Instead, it is an independent entity within the government, having both public purposes and private aspects.</p>
<p>However, the Federal Reserve is subject to oversight by Congress, which periodically reviews its activities and can alter its responsibilities by statute. Also, the Federal Reserve must work within the framework of the overall objectives of economic and financial policy established by the government. Therefore, the Federal Reserve can be more accurately described as &#8220;independent within the government.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. The stock may not be sold, traded, or pledged as security for a loan; dividends are, by law, 6 percent per year. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.federalreserve.gov/generalinfo/faq/faqfrs.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.federalreserve.gov/generalinfo/faq/faqfrs.htm</a></p>
<p>saladdin</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda @ Cakes and Ale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda @ Cakes and Ale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 18:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - I didn&#039;t know there was anything fun about debt, but you proved me wrong! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; I didn&#8217;t know there was anything fun about debt, but you proved me wrong! <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Steven@hundredgoals.com</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/50-fun-facts-about-debt.html/comment-page-1#comment-303211</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven@hundredgoals.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 17:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be sure to get my check in the mail ASAP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be sure to get my check in the mail ASAP!</p>
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		<title>By: Corporate Barbarian</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/50-fun-facts-about-debt.html/comment-page-1#comment-303208</link>
		<dc:creator>Corporate Barbarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 16:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a fun list to read.  Thanks for posting it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a fun list to read.  Thanks for posting it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/50-fun-facts-about-debt.html/comment-page-1#comment-303207</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 15:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technically, it&#039;s a little of both. You can&#039;t say that it&#039;s private when the President selects the members of the board and the Senate confirms them right? You can&#039;t say it&#039;s public when it&#039;s owned by banks in the region of that federal reserve bank. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically, it&#8217;s a little of both. You can&#8217;t say that it&#8217;s private when the President selects the members of the board and the Senate confirms them right? You can&#8217;t say it&#8217;s public when it&#8217;s owned by banks in the region of that federal reserve bank. <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 15:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea that &quot;it&#039;s just semantics&quot; allows us to be really sloppy with how we discuss things.  :)  &quot;Semantics&quot; is how we give meaning to the words that we use, and it&#039;s the *most* important thing when we try to communicate.

Another fun term is &quot;strawman&quot; where you claim that I said the Federal Reserve is &quot;truly independent.&quot;  I did not.  I said it is a privately held bank.  The owners of the Federal reserve are private investors.

Yes the government has some influence, but the government doesn&#039;t own or control it.  Go read some of Bernake&#039;s congressional testimony.  It goes like this.  &quot;Congress: Can you tell us X about what you&#039;re doing?  Bernake: No, we don&#039;t have to tell you, and we&#039;re not going to.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea that &#8220;it&#8217;s just semantics&#8221; allows us to be really sloppy with how we discuss things.  <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   &#8220;Semantics&#8221; is how we give meaning to the words that we use, and it&#8217;s the *most* important thing when we try to communicate.</p>
<p>Another fun term is &#8220;strawman&#8221; where you claim that I said the Federal Reserve is &#8220;truly independent.&#8221;  I did not.  I said it is a privately held bank.  The owners of the Federal reserve are private investors.</p>
<p>Yes the government has some influence, but the government doesn&#8217;t own or control it.  Go read some of Bernake&#8217;s congressional testimony.  It goes like this.  &#8220;Congress: Can you tell us X about what you&#8217;re doing?  Bernake: No, we don&#8217;t have to tell you, and we&#8217;re not going to.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 15:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that it&#039;s PRIVATELY OWNED means that it&#039;s not a part of the government.  Fannie and Freddie were publicly owned by stock holders and were also not a part of the government.  (Don&#039;t ask me what the situation is now with FNM and FRE, because I haven&#039;t kept up.)

There are plenty of other private or public corporations with government regulation (utility compaines for example), but we don&#039;t consider them a part of the government, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that it&#8217;s PRIVATELY OWNED means that it&#8217;s not a part of the government.  Fannie and Freddie were publicly owned by stock holders and were also not a part of the government.  (Don&#8217;t ask me what the situation is now with FNM and FRE, because I haven&#8217;t kept up.)</p>
<p>There are plenty of other private or public corporations with government regulation (utility compaines for example), but we don&#8217;t consider them a part of the government, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 15:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aren&#039;t we talking semantics at this point? The President picks who will be the chairman of the Federal Reserve and the Senate confirms him. If they were truly independent, then they&#039;d pick their own chairman and you wouldn&#039;t need confirmation hearings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t we talking semantics at this point? The President picks who will be the chairman of the Federal Reserve and the Senate confirms him. If they were truly independent, then they&#8217;d pick their own chairman and you wouldn&#8217;t need confirmation hearings.</p>
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		<title>By: saladdin</title>
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		<dc:creator>saladdin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 14:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when do i start getting cited as a reference? not a good reference but one none the less.

saladdin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when do i start getting cited as a reference? not a good reference but one none the less.</p>
<p>saladdin</p>
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