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		<title>By: Shiggity S</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/a-look-at-historical-federal-tax-brackets.html/comment-page-1#comment-331756</link>
		<dc:creator>Shiggity S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevermind, I found them.</description>
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		<title>By: Shiggity S</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/a-look-at-historical-federal-tax-brackets.html/comment-page-1#comment-331755</link>
		<dc:creator>Shiggity S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know the other tax brackets for 1944-1945?</description>
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		<title>By: Keith Pope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Pope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aaron,

It is my understanding that the difference between a Roth IRA and a standard IRA is that the former uses after-tax dollars as contributions and the latter uses pre-tax dollars as contributions. Since Roth contributions have been taxed once they are exempt from taxation when withdrawn. This includes any gains. Qualified withdrawals from a Roth are exempt from any personal tax, period (as the law stands now.)

That said, in my opinion it is always better to maximize your 401(k) before investing in any other IRA type product. This statement assumes your employer offers matching funds to you 401(k) contribution. Matching funds provide instant return on your money. Over the years this free money (matching contributions) could compound into quite a sum!! But, funds withdrawn from a 401(k) account are taxed at your current rate when withdrawn, the principle as well as any gains.The favorable tax treatment of 401(k) contributions is why they are restricted in amount.

These are my opinions based upon the way I understand the system currently. All of this could change with the stroke of a Presidential pen! Under the current legal environment regarding IRA and personal retirement accounts, it is always better to defer any tax payment to when you are of the age and income that dictates your lowest tax exposure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aaron,</p>
<p>It is my understanding that the difference between a Roth IRA and a standard IRA is that the former uses after-tax dollars as contributions and the latter uses pre-tax dollars as contributions. Since Roth contributions have been taxed once they are exempt from taxation when withdrawn. This includes any gains. Qualified withdrawals from a Roth are exempt from any personal tax, period (as the law stands now.)</p>
<p>That said, in my opinion it is always better to maximize your 401(k) before investing in any other IRA type product. This statement assumes your employer offers matching funds to you 401(k) contribution. Matching funds provide instant return on your money. Over the years this free money (matching contributions) could compound into quite a sum!! But, funds withdrawn from a 401(k) account are taxed at your current rate when withdrawn, the principle as well as any gains.The favorable tax treatment of 401(k) contributions is why they are restricted in amount.</p>
<p>These are my opinions based upon the way I understand the system currently. All of this could change with the stroke of a Presidential pen! Under the current legal environment regarding IRA and personal retirement accounts, it is always better to defer any tax payment to when you are of the age and income that dictates your lowest tax exposure.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some historical details missing. When the tax rate (across the board) is lowered, people of all income brackets become less concerned about tax relief and tax shelters. If you look at the periods where taxes were dramatically reduced, especially for the rich, the amount thay paid in taxes increased, even though their tax rate was decreased. 

Historically, there has been more money in the economy when the tax rates are lower. The economy is like a large company or corporation. If you take money out of the company (increase taxes), how do you expect the company to grow? 

When the rich get richer, the poor do better, because the rich are more frivolous with their money. When you start taking money away from the rich, through taxes, they become, relatively, frugal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some historical details missing. When the tax rate (across the board) is lowered, people of all income brackets become less concerned about tax relief and tax shelters. If you look at the periods where taxes were dramatically reduced, especially for the rich, the amount thay paid in taxes increased, even though their tax rate was decreased. </p>
<p>Historically, there has been more money in the economy when the tax rates are lower. The economy is like a large company or corporation. If you take money out of the company (increase taxes), how do you expect the company to grow? </p>
<p>When the rich get richer, the poor do better, because the rich are more frivolous with their money. When you start taking money away from the rich, through taxes, they become, relatively, frugal.</p>
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		<title>By: mikef</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jim,
What I&#039;m confused about is if a guy made $250,000 In 1945 the $50,000 over $200,000 was taxed at 94%, what rate was the first $200,000 taxed at?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jim,<br />
What I&#8217;m confused about is if a guy made $250,000 In 1945 the $50,000 over $200,000 was taxed at 94%, what rate was the first $200,000 taxed at?</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mikef: There were a lot of tax brackets in 1954. The lowest rate was 23% if you earned $0 to $2000. You can see a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/Content/Excel/individual_rates.xls&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;full list in this spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt; by the Brookings Institution, navigate through the tabs at the bottom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mikef: There were a lot of tax brackets in 1954. The lowest rate was 23% if you earned $0 to $2000. You can see a <a href="http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/Content/Excel/individual_rates.xls" rel="nofollow">full list in this spreadsheet</a> by the Brookings Institution, navigate through the tabs at the bottom.</p>
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		<title>By: mikef</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the tax on income over $200,000 was 94% what was the tax on the first $199,000?</description>
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		<title>By: John Early, Amarillo TX</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Early, Amarillo TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the history on tax rates and brackets. Comparing this to economic growth proves interesting. From 1981 when Reagan cut taxes through 2007 GDP annualized growing 3.05% a year. The top marginal rate averaged 39.7% for this period. From 1947 to 1981 growth annualized 3.63% while the top tax rate averaged 80%. 

An important difference between the high top tax rate, high growth period and the low top rate below average growth period is the tax bracket the top rate applied to. In the faster growth period the top bracket averaged 97 times per-capita GDP. In the recent slow growth period the top bracket has only averaged 7.2 times per-capita GDP. Today 97 times per-capita GDP would be, $4,446,700 vs. our top bracket of $357,701. IF you measure by economic vitality, the Reagan revolution looks like a dud to me. We probably would be better off with a higher top tax rate and a dramatically higher bracket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the history on tax rates and brackets. Comparing this to economic growth proves interesting. From 1981 when Reagan cut taxes through 2007 GDP annualized growing 3.05% a year. The top marginal rate averaged 39.7% for this period. From 1947 to 1981 growth annualized 3.63% while the top tax rate averaged 80%. </p>
<p>An important difference between the high top tax rate, high growth period and the low top rate below average growth period is the tax bracket the top rate applied to. In the faster growth period the top bracket averaged 97 times per-capita GDP. In the recent slow growth period the top bracket has only averaged 7.2 times per-capita GDP. Today 97 times per-capita GDP would be, $4,446,700 vs. our top bracket of $357,701. IF you measure by economic vitality, the Reagan revolution looks like a dud to me. We probably would be better off with a higher top tax rate and a dramatically higher bracket.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 23:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see I&#039;m not the only one perplexed by taxes, IRA&#039;s, conversions, etc. I&#039;m torn between converting my traditional IRA funds to Roth. At 55 does it make sense for me to convert now? I can pay the taxes with outside funds. Then there&#039;s the question of the 0% tax on long term capital gains starting in 2008 for people in the 10 and 15% tax bracket. I was forced to retire early, I have enough savings to last till I&#039;m 59 1/2 and start drawing from a large annuity but my cash savings does generate taxes. How much long term capital gains can I redeem tax free per year? The information online is so vague I don&#039;t have a clue. All I&#039;m certain of is one way or another I&#039;ll end up paying more than my fair share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see I&#8217;m not the only one perplexed by taxes, IRA&#8217;s, conversions, etc. I&#8217;m torn between converting my traditional IRA funds to Roth. At 55 does it make sense for me to convert now? I can pay the taxes with outside funds. Then there&#8217;s the question of the 0% tax on long term capital gains starting in 2008 for people in the 10 and 15% tax bracket. I was forced to retire early, I have enough savings to last till I&#8217;m 59 1/2 and start drawing from a large annuity but my cash savings does generate taxes. How much long term capital gains can I redeem tax free per year? The information online is so vague I don&#8217;t have a clue. All I&#8217;m certain of is one way or another I&#8217;ll end up paying more than my fair share.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish that link were updated with the 2001-2006 information. Heck, there&#039;s a 10% bracket, and a 33% bracket now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish that link were updated with the 2001-2006 information. Heck, there&#8217;s a 10% bracket, and a 33% bracket now!</p>
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		<title>By: FatLady</title>
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		<dc:creator>FatLady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting thing about contributing to regular IRAs, 401Ks and 403Cs in the belief that your taxes will go down after you retire because your earnings will be less:  They may NOT be less. If you&#039;ve squirreled away enough in savings, taxes on the proceeds might even be more. For sure, I can&#039;t afford to live on less than the State of Arizona is paying me now; to retire, I&#039;ll need enough in savings to generate about what I earn now, less the $800 a month projected from Social Security. So my taxes would be the same.

But...when I die, whatever is left in those tax-deferred savings instruments will be hugely taxable for my estate. My son will inherit a small fraction of a lifetime&#039;s worth of scrimping and scrounging.  The only way we baby-boomers can help our kids stay in the middle class will be to pass assets to them. So if you&#039;re an old bat like me and you&#039;d like to pass financial security along to your hypereducated kids who are watching living-wage jobs disappear and expecting to spend their lives in low-paid dead-end jobs while taxes rise to orbital levels, you&#039;re better off with Roth IRAs or even ordinary boring non-tax-deferred mutual funds, so that your estate will pass to the kids with the lowest possible tax gouge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thing about contributing to regular IRAs, 401Ks and 403Cs in the belief that your taxes will go down after you retire because your earnings will be less:  They may NOT be less. If you&#8217;ve squirreled away enough in savings, taxes on the proceeds might even be more. For sure, I can&#8217;t afford to live on less than the State of Arizona is paying me now; to retire, I&#8217;ll need enough in savings to generate about what I earn now, less the $800 a month projected from Social Security. So my taxes would be the same.</p>
<p>But&#8230;when I die, whatever is left in those tax-deferred savings instruments will be hugely taxable for my estate. My son will inherit a small fraction of a lifetime&#8217;s worth of scrimping and scrounging.  The only way we baby-boomers can help our kids stay in the middle class will be to pass assets to them. So if you&#8217;re an old bat like me and you&#8217;d like to pass financial security along to your hypereducated kids who are watching living-wage jobs disappear and expecting to spend their lives in low-paid dead-end jobs while taxes rise to orbital levels, you&#8217;re better off with Roth IRAs or even ordinary boring non-tax-deferred mutual funds, so that your estate will pass to the kids with the lowest possible tax gouge.</p>
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		<title>By: Madame X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madame X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always find it interesting to note that some of the times when the top tax rate was the highest were also times of great economic prosperity. I&#039;m not trying to say that high taxes on the wealthiest people leads to prosperity as a direct cause and effect-- but they are not as incompatible with prosperity as some people would have you believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always find it interesting to note that some of the times when the top tax rate was the highest were also times of great economic prosperity. I&#8217;m not trying to say that high taxes on the wealthiest people leads to prosperity as a direct cause and effect&#8211; but they are not as incompatible with prosperity as some people would have you believe.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I upgraded to Wordpress 2.1, I saw that my carriage returns (br&#039;s) were being lost somehow. So, I put them back into this post and updated the date - well I found out the reason they were being lost was because of some hiccups with the Markdown plugin and so I disabled the plugin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I upgraded to Wordpress 2.1, I saw that my carriage returns (br&#8217;s) were being lost somehow. So, I put them back into this post and updated the date &#8211; well I found out the reason they were being lost was because of some hiccups with the Markdown plugin and so I disabled the plugin.</p>
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		<title>By: mapgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>mapgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, why has the date magically changed on this post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, why has the date magically changed on this post?</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Dinosaur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angry Dinosaur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, Jim!  For the record, when I start making over 2.3 mil per year, remind me not to complain about my tax rate..

Also interesting comments, especially from those suspicious of the value of the 401(k).  I had not previously thought about the effect of increased tax rates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Jim!  For the record, when I start making over 2.3 mil per year, remind me not to complain about my tax rate..</p>
<p>Also interesting comments, especially from those suspicious of the value of the 401(k).  I had not previously thought about the effect of increased tax rates.</p>
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