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Another Stimulus Check? Perhaps.
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Update: Here’s the latest on the second stimulus package.
When Democratic Presidential hopeful Barack Obama mentioned a second stimulus check in a speech in early June, I didn’t think that it would actually happen. Presidential nominees do a lot of talking in the months leading up to November and I chalked the idea of another stimulus check as a short term as just that – talk.
Well, turns out that the Democrats, led by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, want another stimulus check. As expected, the Republicans are firing back, President Bush is asking that we “wait for the stimulus package to fully kick in,” and it’s simply business as usual in Washington.
I have mixed feelings about yet another stimulus check. On one hand, I understand that there are many families on the boundaries getting squeezed by soaring fuel and food prices. On the other, I don’t think the “stimulus package” is really stimulus at all and I don’t really think a stimulus package is the solution to our economic woes. Overall, I think it’s just political maneuvering and time that would be better spent on more important issues like education, medicare care, or climate change.
At this point, it’s merely political fodder and we shouldn’t expect another stimulus check, just that there have been discussions of one. As anyone who has watched Congress work can attest to, there are plenty of discussions in Washington that lead nowhere.
Democrats plan second economic stimulus bill [Associated Press]
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The first stimulus check was put on the table by the GOP representatives and the White House. Half of the Democratic representatives (only the people that work for Fox News use the term “Democrat”, because it sounds like “rat”) were against it because (obviously) it was a pure politics–like the Gas Tax “Holiday”, we would be borrowing money to give to people, it would cost a lot, with little or no real benefit on a small or large scale. They caved in because the American news media gave such negative press to those who opposed it. I am not aware of a second economic stimulus package, that idea would suck. However a wise man once told me “when you’re already drowning, does it really matter whether you’re under 5 ft of water or 50 ft?”
As one of millions of Americans who is drowning (metaphorically speaking), I’d happily trade being under 50 ft of water for being under 45 ft. An extra $600 won’t save anyone’s house, but it won’t hurt…
MORE FREE MONEY?!?! WOO HOO!!!
GAS IS OUTRAGEOUS WITH NO END IN SITE.BRING ON ANOTHER STIMULOUS CHECK.I KNOW MINE WAS SPENT TOWARDS BILLS AN GAS WITHIN THE FIRST WEEK OF RECIEVING IT.I’M A FULL TIME FIREFIGHTER AN NEEDLESS TO SAY OUR PAYCHECKS DONT GO VERY FAR.WE ALL HAVE PART TIME JOBS ON THE SIDE JUST TO GET BY RIGHT NOW.WHERE IS THE RELIEF?????
I hope us americans will receive another stimulas check. I am a single mother with two children and it’s very hard. My first check was spent in one day on rent and extra food at home. Gas, food, bills and my childrens needs are getting very expensive and its leaving me in a slump. Will it get better or will me and my children be homeless.
why dont they quit wasting money on feeding ppl on death row and actually start EXECUTING those ppl? china has a much higher population than the US does, but their homicide rate is significantly lower…do you know WHY?!? because in china, people are actually AFRAID of the consequences for murdering others….because there actually ARE consequences…like, YOU DIE! how much tax-payer money per year gets wasted on prisoners? im sorry, but i really dont think tax-payers should be supporting prisoners. they ought to be supporting themselves, just like normal people have to. did our bonehead government ever think that MAYBE some whackjobs out there only commit the crimes they did so they WOULD get caught and not have to support themselves? why dont the people in office quit worrying about stupid new laws to pass and start standing up for us about the gas prices and food prices and start making our employers give us “cost of living” raises?? oh wait….that would never happen, our governement is run by nazi republicans……
freeee monnneyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy whoooooooooooooo aaaaaaaaaaaa yahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I think they should just wipe everyones slate clean from debt and we can all start over, then we wouldnt have to worry about a stimulas check because some of us would actually have extra money to spend….. now thats what I’m talking about……………………………
Conedude 13, it’s not free money. It’s taxes that is taken out of hard working Americans pay checks. It’s our money. Don’t be fooled.
As your stereotypically stupid American, who has no idea how to balance his own checkbook – much less any idea of the implications of taking on more federal debt to pay “stimulus” checks – I fully support the government giving us more free money!
I mean, it’s not like we ever have to pay this money back, right?!? And even if we do, all I care about is TODAY! So what if this nation’s debt is causing the dollar to look more and more like “funny money” with each passing day? What do I care! As long as I get MY CHECK NOW, I’ll let other people figure out that high falutin’ economic stuff.
Signed,
A stupid, blissfully uneducated and unaware American
P.S. God Bless George Bush!
I”AM SINGLE MOTHER OF 3 BOYS AGES 8-15.I”AM SO FAR BEHIND ON MY BILLS ,THAT I”AM WORRIED THAT I”AM GOING TO LOSE EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE WORKED SO HARD FOR .THER HAS BEEN DAYS THAT I HAVEN”T EATEN SO THAT THERE WOULD BE ENOUGH FOOD FOR MY CHILDERN.SO SENT HELP KNOW……….
I agree with everybody else we need this Stimulus check because our pay checks don’t cover the bills anymore. Everything is going up but our pay’s can anybody remember the last time we had a cost of living raise? Look at the prices of things today, Chesse $7, Milk $4, Gas $4 a gallon, Bread $3 a loaf lets not even start on the price of fruit. You can’t feed a family of 4 with what you earn on one paycheck both parents have to work to make ends meet or the single parent has to hold down 2 to 3 jobs to make it. It’s time we stop worring about other countries and worry about the United States, We had a balanced buget when Bush got in now we are so far in debt that it will take years to even see the light of a even budget. Canada’s dollar is worth more than our dollar bill, now that’s a shame, thank God for Mcdonalds, Wendy’s, and Burger King at least there they have a dollar menu. It’s time to start earning those outrageous paycheck that Congress and our senators make to rebuild the United States and get us back to work and stop sending jobs out of this country, we now how to make Hats, Steel, & Toys also stop sending calls from this country to another when you need to talk to someone about your bill or the product that you just bought here. You can’t understand them have the time anyway. Verizon you have enough workers here that you have to talk to someone in India about your phone problems.. American made still stands for something, we have Americans over seas dying for a Country that is getting rich on oil and not giving back anything for our help. Sorry I got a little long winded
the gov’t should spend as much $$$$$ on their own people than Iraq.
I read what you people write, and it just shocks me how fast our country has deteriorated.. Corrupt politicians, corporations running government, unprecedented debt spending, and everyone wanting something for nothing… This certainly will not end good….
Well said, Tim…
I personally believe we need all the money we can get from congress. We put into Social Security, Welfare and money overseas to countries who don’t even care about us. We need it here and we need it sent out NOW.
Quite frankly, I’m shocked at how many of the comments here reflect a “gimme, gimme, gimme” mentality. It’s as if a disturbingly high percentage of you expect to be taken care of by the government.
By the way, there ARE plenty of good paying jobs out there. But most of those good jobs require something more than a 7th grade mastery of the written English language. Which, unfortunately, would exclude most of the posters here.
Well Steve, you don’t live in Virginia that is obivious. Not everyone stopped at the 7th grade. Times are hard. McDonald’s only pay 6.55, and even us who have degrees are having a hard time. Get a grip on downing those without and education. Or are you Mexican?
VA says, “Get a grip on downing those without ‘and’ education.”
I rest my case.
Hi there i was just asking if we all are going to get a stimulus check this year
Ok, well it seems to me the rich are always getting richer, and the middle class are getting close to being poor hitting the poverty level, and the poor are trying their hardest to make ends meet.
No more of the slinging mud at the people that do not have degrees,did it ever cross your mind that they had to go to work because they HAD to? When they wanted to go to college and filled out the FAFLSA they made to much to get any kind of grants to attend college, and they did not have the money to attend, and No one to lent them money because they didn’t have the credit score the institution wanted, so there for they were SOL wouldn’t ya say? I think the government is screwed up so many peoples lives because of this war, sending money to other countries, supporting these people that do not want to go out and work and they are able to draw food-stamps, welfare, and they need to get rid of the people in the prision system that we support all year round they need to go back to the old days where we didn’t have to support them like we do now. I think we need the extra check to help out these families in need.. if you do not need it put it in savings! I know I have a hard time paying for gas, groceries, and needful things that my family requires and it would help out.
600.00 ?? execute the prisoners ??—do Americans have any idea how our dollars are spent ? I think not by reading the above comments. Our tax dollars are funding huge military expenditures and DOE–DOD- welfare for aliens–welfare for unemployed Americans–paying other countries to NOT build a bomb—I mean we are talking trillions of dollars of made up money. America has invented another way of saying the B word (bankruptcy) —-its done by adding a new page to the assets and liabilities book—its a page called non-performing assets.
Folks–we are bankrupt. We must build out economy based on providing our world with good and services that are the best quality possible. Also we must bring integrity back into our governing bodies. Years ago my brother shared that if you ever experience a breakdown it is because somewhere in the past there was a breach in the integrity.
Essentially we need to give more than we talk from our country —there really is no other way.
my comment is mainly for steve i have completed high school now attend college work a full time job and raise 2 children alone no help from their father or my family so to say that people are not trying or have no education to me seems like you have only experienced or have only come in contact with the higher class who either have opportunities handed to them or you are just not in touch with reality anyone, ANYONE can go from making six figures today to next to nothing tomorrow so please do not judge unless you have been in another ones shoes because contrary to what you may believe everyone isnt given a fair shot at a good life now to address the check yes of course i need it and i am pretty sure alot of others do too but for those that do not maybe you should find some way to help another person who may be less fortunate than you maybe a shelter or foster home.
Mel- I don’t think anyone knows where all of our money for taxes goes! I have been paying in taxes since 1986 when i was able to work out in the workforce.. I lived on a farm and seen how hard my family worked just to keep things going. Yeah the prison system is a mess and they have more comforts of home than most U.S citizens. I don’t think I said execute them?? that is how closed minded some people are with this whole issue! like i said the RICH keep gettin RICHER! there is oil in the US but no one wants to drill it.. but thats typical!
Nicole, a few comments: First, I am curious to know how you’re doing in college, given that your written English skills appear to be on par with those of a typical 5th grader. And I’m not trying to be insulting. But your written English skills are quite literally THAT bad, and wholly unacceptable for the type of employment I imagine you are ultimately seeking. And yet, time and time again I see people like you complain that you can’t find good work, that the system is rigged against you, yada, yada, yada. But you never seem to acknowledge that maybe “the system” isn’t the problem. Maybe your lack of marketable job skills (like not possessing even a basic proficiency in written English) are the bigger problem for you?
Second, I’m not sure why you think I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth. While growing up, my family was not rich. I had to serve in the military for four years in order to be able to pay for college. And even then, I had to take out significant loans to afford tuition. And I also had to work though college, as nobody else was putting food on my table, either. But what I NEVER did was make excuses, or sit there thinking, “Poor, poor me! Life is just SO unfair”. And yet, too many of my fellow Americans are all too willing to blame anyone and everyone else for their own lack of economic success.
Essentially, you’re right about one thing Nicole. Life is NOT fair. Some people do, in fact, have it easier than others. But there are also countless tales of people who had nothing, worked hard, and ultimately became successful. And while luck sometimes plays a role, the much bigger factor is that these people were willing to work as hard as necessary and sacrifice to reach their goals. What they most certainly DIDN’T do was sit around and complain that life is unfair, the odds are stacked against them, and all the other things I’ve seen so much of in this thread.
And in that regard, I feel sorry for people like you Nicole. There is much opportunity for economic success in America, but you have to have a “success mentality” in order to tap into those opportunities. And I can tell that you don’t have that mentality. Instead, you are acting like the typical American who instead prefers to blame their troubles on external factors. (It’s much easier and feels better to blame others, than to acknowledge that maybe we have made some bad choices in life that got us to where we’re at.) And as long as you continue to blame others (all while waiting for that next government check to show up in your mailbox) you will continue to be denied the American dream. But remember, the choice is always yours. Always.
What a DICK steve is… kicking someone while they are down?!?!?. Ya know no one will blow your damn horn. Back in the “day” when you were working hard and attempting to make it though school, It was allot easier rates were down and gas was prolly .97 cents a gallon. PLEASE dont go there old man… I will always support someone that is willing to go back to school and raise their children. You go Nicole and make this dang old man eat his words! I think that we pay to much in taxes and we deserve something back! i have never drawn any kind of goverment check in my life and have a great job! But it still not enough trying to raise a family.. Jobs are being cut everyday companies shutting down and people wondering what they will do next! Its people like you that make this the way it is.. they are dicks and never will change! I would say a few other things to you, but I wont go there.
Kerry, thanks for validating my point that most Americans are far too eager to blame their lot in life on someone or something else. Here, you have generically blamed “people like you” for the fact that you can’t properly take care of your family. As if I am somehow standing in the way of you gettng a better job or otherwise improving your economic outlook.
And true to form, you also demand a government handout because you “deserve something back”. Oh, really? You mean to tell us that this country has given you freedom and opportunity that is limited only by your imagination, but that isn’t enough?!? You still “deserve something back”?!? Wow. No wonder the country is going to hell in a handbasket. There are too many ungrateful people like you in it, always looking for that next handout that you hilariously think you “deserve”.
P.S. Maybe you can enroll in an English class with Nicole. If you’re nice, I’d bet they’ll teach you the difference between “to” and “too”. Heck, if you’re lucky, they may even teach you that “allot” is not a word!
(When did America become overrun by uneducated boobs?)
Allot is a word though… (Allotment)
By the way—remember— this country was and is an ill gotten gain.
It was essentially stolen from the American Indian—Google to Taino Massacre and know that this was just the beginning of a holocaust that towers over what the Germans did. Even more the Spanish, after wiping out the Indian population through torture and slavery, brought black folks from Africa to do the slavery.
Yes—it was Spain that sold black slaves to the white man in the south and populated the West Indies with the sturdy and hard working African folks…..
You wouldn’t suppose that the US would have some Karma in the matter—how about getting that the US government still holds enormous tracts of Indian land that they will never give back—at least not for now.
Interestingly–the only real minorities ARE the blacks and Indians—maybe its time for some repentance and some restitution. Lets see—what is the condition of the black population here in the US……hmmmm
600.00 bucks isn’t the issue at all……if there is an issue its about honesty and integrity.
We got work to do baby or forget it–we are going to be a separated society like Mexico—barbed wire and glass shards to keep those poor Indio’s Mestizo’s out .You know the one’s coming to the US to have a better life that sell chicklets in the markets of Mexico. Poor Indians—–wow.Maybe its their turn to have some prosperity and wealth.
LOL steve no your the boob! glad to ruffle your feathers a little.. Your probaly one of the company presidents that have moved their work overseas so you can pay as little as you want for production! and you could careless about the hardworking american people as long as your pockets are padded.
Hey Kerry…the correct spelling is “you’re”. You know, since you missed that not once, but twice.
You seemed to have difficulty spelling some other words correctly, too. Which makes you look kinda like an uneducated boob. Sorta like I previously said.
Where do you people come from? And why are you ruining my America with your inability to communicate in English?
I agree with the 2nd stimulus check. My husband lost his job and has tried to apply every where but every company he has applied at tells him they are no longer excepting applications. He now does temporary jobs for neighbors and I small companies that’s not an everyday job. I’m lucky if he works 3 days a week. I have 3 kids and I can’t pay the bills on my own. We have no credit card bills. All we have is morgage, utilities, 1 car payment, insurance and this is just the everyday/everyone kind of bills. I still can’t afford it. 2 of my kids went back to school on Monday and they don’t have any new clothes, shoes and some of their school supplies are used ones from last year. I need this check. I’m about to commit suicide just so my husband can get the life insurance to pay off the house.
And why are you trying to teach english on a blog? lmao! thanks for making me laugh today!
@concernedmother – I hope you’re not serious about suicide. It’s not something to joke about and life insurance won’t pay under that circumstance anyway.
Before suicide—give your life to serving others—the payback is happiness.
Try it
There is a Hindu group that practices not having expectations—they live wonderful and free lives—let whatever comes –come–just watch it–endless changing scenes…… take your head to the ground and touch the earth with it—find time to laugh at your addiction to drama
It will be over soon enough–enjoy the wonder of being here
Hell –spend your 600.00 tax rebate on some fun–whatta hay
I am not serious about suicide… I understand insurance won’t pay for that reason of death. At times I get so stressed I want to fake an accidental death like getting hit by a car or something but that’s not always the answer. I wouldn’t give anything up to watch my kids live their lives anyways. This will all pass eventually and hopefully soon. That 2nd check would help a little. I wouldn’t know what to do with it first though. Pay bills (even though I’d still be behind), buy the kids new school clothes or simply make up for the boring summer I had put the kids through. (My oldest who felt bad and helped his father work for the neighbors)
I do want to thank those of you who do try to see the positive side of life (Melito and Jon) I always told myself, “No matter how bad things are, it can always get worst”. And I am extremely happy for all I have. I guess I should start saying, “no matter how bad things are, it’ll all be better in the end”.
Thank you!!!
I wouldn’t dare take my own life from my kids… I can’t leave them like this! At one point I did want to walk in front of a speeding car to make it look like an accident but I know it’s not the answer. I used to say, “As bad as things are, they can always get worst”. I hope this is the worst it gets. It’s because of positive people like you guys (Jon and Melito) who look on the bright side of life that helps people like me get thru when we’ve forgotten all we have. This 2nd check would help whether if it’s to buy my kids new school clothes, pay for bills (even though I’d still be behind) or to make up for the horrible summer I put my kids thru. (My oldest who is 9 yrs and voluntarily helped his father with working on neighbors yards, installments, repairs, ect. ~ for extra cash) At this point, I don’t care what people say. I need this money and I need it now. Some of the comments above have been pretty harsh to those in need of this check. Be harsh to me and say what you need to say. I know there are other people who go thru worst times then myself and there are a lot more people suffering out there but if the government can help a little more by giving this check, I know a lot of us would be greatly appreciated.
concernedmother, try reading the book “Financial Peace” by Dave Ramesy… he is a very conservative financial advisor who lays out step by step the process of getting ones finances under control.
http://www.daveramsey.com/
Steve you remind me of an idoit boss I used to work for. His name Is Nik Larum. Red hair a real but wipe. Thought he knew it all because he had a degree. His business folded. He folded someone else’s business and now he is folding the trash company. Go to H— Steve
It wouldn’t hurt to find the glue that holds all of us together. We are, by nature interbeings. We are defined by each other and we live in one of the most beautiful and leading countries in the world—in fact the US includes ALL other countries–the US is us. We are the government–many of us are not diligent about the management of our society and ignore the value in getting and giving the best education possible for ALL of our citizens.
I am a stand for isolating our politicians from the controlling big business interests in this country and putting the average Americans interests first. This means to change the criteria for how we respond to lobbyists and that there be a demand that out politicians be of impeccable integrity. (we ALL have to work much harder)
Theres a train going down the track–its going to a bad place. Getting on one side of the train OR the other (democrats and republicans) will not change the direction of the train…..Someone will have to have the guts to stop the train and tear up the track and rebuild it to go to a better place–a place that is in fact our birthright.
I agree with alot of the postings. It is very hard to live with the prices going up and not the pay checks. I have been on my job for 6 years and always has been able to budget my money OK to make it to the next check and pretty comfortable with a little to put aside for a rain day but now I am behind on my credit card bills, cut off my cell phone under contract, now owing $250 cancelation fee plus the bill and buy whatever groceries I can between checks to feed my 2 children. So my credit cards are all maxed out and I am unable to keep them up either. I can’t afford to get a second job because child care is expensive also. So what are we suppose to do when each year all we have to look forward to is a 25 cent raise, and no cost of living. I live in Iowa alone, my family can’t afford to take me and my children in too, they are stuggling too. So another check would be nice, to help me catch up on my light bill I bypassed for groceries. I have 2 growing boys.
Single Mom Also!
Steve you idoit. You’re is for you are. Kerry didn’t need correcting in the above e-mail. (your pockets are padded) Kerry this is correct english. Not only did I take english, but spanish and german as well. Grow up Steve. You BUTT WIPE.
Hold on to your hats folks because we are going to experience some very rapid and distinct changes. I think things are going to get pretty bad and then get better.
We are at war with Islam and its an economic war. I believe they will cause a real crash by cutting off oil—but the world will align and pull things together rapidly.
If i had relatives in Iran i would help them get out of there ASAP. I believe the bombing will be precise, but the radiation from their processes may be poisonous.
Refund checks are a joke in my opinion–for now do the best you can and pay for necessities first then luxuries if there is excess. Pay what you can and don’t worry about your credit. If your really strapped let the banks have your gas guzzlers and pay what you can on your mortgage.
All you can do is your best so do that and maintain your calm center.
I think another check would be great! the first check helped me get another vehicle after mine had been repo’d due to not being able to pay because it was either put gas in the car or make a payment on it. I couldn’t do both. Now I have a less expensive car w/a small tank but I am still trying to catch up on other bills that keep going up; like the electric bill is going up again and this is the 3rd time this year. groceries keeps going up, and forget about buyng fruits and veggies, because I can’t afford it. I am just glad that I have a family of 3 and we are grown to where we can eat unhealthy foods (frozen and such), just to stay alive and another check would at least let me put fresh fruit and veggies on the table at least for a few weeks. besides, the way we get taxed for everything and some times twice, we deserve a break with another check!
Steve- I see that you are such the grammar perfectionist. You may want to edit your August 19, 2008 comments. You have an incomplete sentence and a couple of “run on”. I am just tryint to help out a fellow grammar fanatic.
We need second check because, some of us had ours sent to child support dues and we was never told that it was going to go there.. Everything is going up and wages are staying the same that is why there is alots of people on walfare and crime rates going up.. we all need help myself I am on a fix income with 3 teenage boys.. WISH THEY HAVE THIS EVERY YEAR …….
COME ON WITH THE DAMN CHECKS, IF YOU ASK ME I THINK WE SHOULD GET ONE EVERY MONTH IT’S OURS ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok, Now the gas is going up over a dollar more a gallon?? what is up with that.. ok yeah we all need that check now! Gas goes up everything goes up..like trying to feed your family! The Big goverment needs to steps it ass down! and work on making this country better!
I have to agree we do need that other check it would help out everyone who is haveing a hard time makeing ends meet cuz i know how it is to live pay check to pay check and it sux!! well when i got the first check i was like woohoo!! but i couldn’t even spend it on my kids cuz we had to pay rent and pay bills and i couldn’t even get my car fixed so this would be great to get another one cuz also christmas is almost here and i could get my kids the christmas that they want.
Oh and one more thing you tell him kerry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, gas was trying to go up a 1.00 more a gallon on Friday and our Governor put out a state of emergency. They can only raise it 10% because they were trying to gouge! the gas that is in the ground is the same stuff they had for the week! Little fkers want to drain us dry! I will start hitching up horses and bringing them to work! LOL before i help those SOB’s get richer!
Oh and about Steve he is just a blow hard.. trying to act smarter than he really is.
Not everyone is on food stamps and welfare so they don’t have to work you sob. I work and still need the food stamps to eat. So why dont you comment on something you know about.
Steve, you are spot on. I work at a large company and I do, in fact, have a good handle on the English language. I really think that you may be on to something. Even though some people do not see that you are truly helping them, I do.
What I am not hearing here is that the 600.00 is merely a pat on the back of slaves—Our government is so far in debt to banks—banks own us and took away our gold standard, then wrote laws that gave banks and government the right to own you—The debt will be paid by you and your kids for several generations. Does anyone here have any idea how much 7 trillion dollars is?
The US has been bankrupt since 1934.
http://www.halexandria.org/dward282.htm
I respect you all but many folks haven’t a clue whats really going on.
I would just like to say to those of you that complain about not having money for this and that, that you somehow manage to find money to pay your intenet bill. Now I understand the struggles of life right now, but I would not be here typing this on my computer by means of the internet if things were that bad. I would do without before my children had to.
Some people frequent the library, where there is generally computer and/or internet access…
well if our government would stop sending millions of dollars to other countries that need help,they need to look at the American people here who are homeless or our flood victims or anyone who needs help here.The government is quick to help other countries,but what about the millions who need help here
600.00—is a joke–why do we settle for paucity ?
Get these figures——–>> >To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000
bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.
Our population is about 301,000,000 ± counting every man, woman
and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..
So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon (bail out) that equals
$425,000.00 each. Talk about boosting the economy !!!
This 85×10^12 is less than the amount of money going to bail out the fathers of lumina.
Now rethink 600.00 petty dollars while the rich laugh at you.
I am sorry—I am not even close to the right numbers….
We will fund (as tax payers and slaves) a total of 1 trillion dollars in bail outs. This of course added to the 6 trillion in debt that we already owe—LOLOLOLOL…
One trillion (not the 7 trillion) Divided by 200 million adults over 18 years of age. (US population)
That comes to 500 thousand a piece.
Is anyone doing the math here?
We cant even pay the interest on that kind of money.
Somebody is not telling Americans the truth.
Now I think I understand why politicians want to take our guns away.
Well anything will help me at this point. Received my electric bill in and it has tripled!!!!!!! Going from 150.00 avg monthly bill to a 420.00… That is just crazy! Along with everything else that has gone up… They tacked on 70.00 to our electric bill because we are paying for the hurricanes sending their crews down there to help! I’m like what the hell?? What is fema for? And all the disaster relief that is supplied for all the victims???? Isn’t why we pay all the taxes for? Something has to give… I see it’s going to get worse before it gets any better! I do not even live close to the coast! Its like 16 hrs from where I live…
Be thankful for what you all have, not what you don’t have…
I was married at the age of 18, my husband was 19. We both have a high school diploma only. We had a baby on the way. We were NEVER on welfare, WIC, food stamps etc… My husband got a laborist job making only $4 something an hour. We survived on that. I didn’t work, I stayed home with our baby girl. We were on a very tight budget, but had our own apartment. We had a car, but couldn’t afford to get it on the road. So my husband had to find a way to work every day. We lived on tuna, and oodles of noodles, so we could give our baby what she needed. I remember at income tax time we were lucky to get back $200-$400. These a days people with kid(s) are getting back thousands and thousands of dollars, with all of the deductions they have out there now. We NEVER got back that amount ever. It is crazy that people are getting thousands and thousands back when they never even paid in that much in on taxes. I still don’t think that is fair.
I am happy to say that was 24 years ago, and we made it!! My husband still works at the same company too. He worked his butt off at that company, and worked his way up. We have 2 daughter’s now, ages 19 and 24. We raised our kids up to respect what a dollar is, and to work your butt off in life to earn what you want. Our oldest daughter graduated top in her class with a 4 year degree in college, and now works for a financial agency. She was hired a month after she graduated, and we are so proud of her. She put herself through college, and has all of her loans paid back in only two years. Our youngest daughter is working on a degree still. I am hoping she is as lucky as our oldest daughter is. We still struggle with money, but we never went over our heads. We don’t believe in credit cards, so we don’t have any. We have came a long way in life, but the key words are… “we worked for what we have”. If we couldn’t afford it, we didn’t get it, or have it… All I am saying, is to be thankful for what you do have in life. It could be a lot worst… A lot of things in life isn’t fair…
Yes I am thankful for what we have, I work hard everyday 40 or more hours a week to supply my childern with their needs not wants! I just live on a farm in rual america, I don’t believe in credit either. I just don’t like working and paying taxes to bail out these big banks and they get bonuses off of our tax money! We have to pay for our debt why can’t they??? Barrel has went down but the pumps still have the same amounts… ??? and thank goodness i had a big garden this yr to beable to can allot of our veggies… I hope that this all works out for all. We all have to stand together at the end or it will really be dog eat dog world.
I agree with you Anonymous, and some other’s… It is crazy how things are, and they are getting even worst. We shouldn’t have to pay for other’s debt. It is hard enough to support ourselves and our children. That was the reason why I wrote the last long e-mail. My point I was trying to get across was no matter how hard we had it, we worked and never expected anything to be handed to us on a silver platter. But there are people in this world that are able bodies, and could be working, but are taking advantage of the system, which we are paying for. Then it gets carried on generation after generation, because that is what the children see their parent’s doing. I don’t think that is right. I was a teenage pregnacy, but we worked hard and made it without taking advantage of the system. I can see someone being on it temporary, but come on… generation after generation… thats crazy.
My husband works 56-58 hours a week. I lost my job in April, so we are back to living on one pay check. It is hard, but we will make it… We have too… Hang in there people… We all will make it… Good luck!!
It is all bad money management. I am 24 years old, married, in school, work full time(as a waitress in a small restaurant), OWN my 2000 car, and have one more year to pay for my house trailer. I started babysitting when i was 12. I taught myself to save a lot of money and spend a little money. I have never gone a week without some type of income, oh except the week after hurricane katrina hit. But as soon as we got our electricity back we began working, heck i even picked up an extra 15 hours. I rarely call into work because of some small illness like a headache or backache. Any time my boss needs me to pull a double or pick up an extra day, I’m willing; no complaints. Because of that she pays me great. My customers see that as well and I have gotten many job offers. I have decided that since my boss has appreciated me all this time I’ll stick with here for another year or so, till i’m out of school.
I do have an emergency fund. Also I have a savings account. Which I had to dip into when my husband was jobless for 7 months. I do have internet, satellite tv, i go grocery shopping every 2 weeks, and enjoy clothes shopping about once a month. we also go on a week of vacation every year. we don’t make 6 figures a year, but we find a way to pay bills, put food on the table , and enjoy life. we have no complaints.
I was just lucky enough to understand the importance of money management very young. i think thats the problem with people and the problem with the government.
if they would give to the people that earned 100,000 or less. give like 100,000-500,000 and not the rich people, then people would go buy houses and cars then the economy would pick up. why make the rich richer. make the poor at least live comfortably.
OK—folks it is quite likely that you will be seeing military jeeps going up and down your highways after the crash because of all the looting, killing and steeling that will go on.
i dont think you all understand what is happening here.
SO hang on to your hats—
there is a good side to all of this–there will be a new world order asked for by the major world governments–a one money (monetary) system—Things will only be bad for a short time–
I suggest if your identity is caught up in how many dollars you have or in its value–to dump that identity and serve your neighbors and work to make sure everybody gets their basic needs met.
You say impossible—remember the towers–that was the physical form of this monetary collapse—its coming down folks….anyone want to waltz
I’m a little late coming in on this but i just had to respond to steve’s posting ,he’s a foolish person ,very much so steve there is a such thing as a educated fool ,and the purpose of going to school is to get educated ,nicole it is so called educated fools like steve that’s the back breakers of many americans that tries its reverse physicology .Down talk to others to make themselves feel superior meaning higher in order steve .I will greatly assume because you are military and have endured such behavior towards you it ok to step back in society and cast your little military hurts and put downs you endured on others ,may i suggest you go back and get some counseling ,why you may think your educated ,you lack out right wisdom ,IT goes like this a wise man will go far but a fool will always fall don’t put 100% on education alone it also takes common sense to climb the latter .I suggest you search for some and for the record those are educated fools that just crashed the banking market do you know why steve ,they had no common sense like you good bye steve and best wishes nicole hol yourself to a high standard.There will always be people like steve that cross your path .sincerely a educated black women that has a master in common sense also .
Well, we have to gather together and pray that our jobs will be safe and our family will have what we need. I worry about what will happen to our children in the long run? will they be able to get their education they deserve and not have to go straight out and work full time, I worry about my 401 is it going to be there when I need it?
I read that the states are wanting to cut their bugets like in CA why don’t he take a pay cut so some can keep their jobs? We do this bailout its going to hurt us all! Im sick of it.. do they come knocking on our doors asking us if they can help and bail us out of the debt? No they get our money and get their christmas bonus! where most of us will have to pass this season by!
India–a place that has been around through good and bad economic times and her people are still having kids and families and laughter and life. Many think the the US has been prosperous because of our dominant religious belief. So now if India and China become the Economic and military world leaders, should we become Hindus or Buddhists?
No–integrity and decency is a basic HUMAN right no matter what religion you choose to practice.
The folks in India that live on next to nothing are proof that we can still have the most important things in life. Love, warmth, family, safety, food, shelter , etc.
America like England have been the hog in the barn. First the British taking over most of the planet to exploit (murder ,rape, torture and tax) and bring under submission (including India by the way) then the US and her insatiable consumerism at the cost of the third world and now her own people.
So if the hog in the barn ate all the food–what is there to feed the other animals—it is only obvious—the big fat hog.
There is a middle path that doesn’t have to be based in greed or poverty and I think we are on our way to discovering it.
Maybe its time that folks take a deeper look at their definitions and beliefs as these two things are the filters in which we experience life. The most precious thing we have is our health and well being–by far more important than keeping up you payments on the lodge/cabin in Vermont or retiring to the easy life.
I say we need to dig a little deeper into our hearts and souls about what to do next for our children and the future of our country.
In fact, maybe its time we slow down to spend some real quality time with our children and grand children, wives and husbands, to really listen to and be with them in a nurturing way AND to have mature discourse about how we as individuals and families can serve each other in good times and bad. I mean grass roots taking care. Slowing down is, in my opinion, the first step. Next is to let your mind share its insanity and then thank it for sharing and do the right thing (the sane thing) for all concerned—
collectively.
Half asleep I meant to say that integrity and decency are human principles no matter what religion we practice. Any philosophy, religious or not, that molds these basic principles into people, is a treasure of treasures, worth much more than our retirement plans or second homes.
I’m thinking Steve is reading and responding to this post while he is at work and while he is lacking in his work duties, the market is crashing. Perhaps he is a banker? LOL
What I am wondering is why someone like Steve is even on this website. If he doesn’t need the money why is he bothering. I not only have a job, a degree, and also am a student in college right now, I am just barely keeping my head above water. Yes, if the government wants to send us another check, I would gladly accept. I have never asked for hand outs, I have worked hard for all I have. But a little extra never hurts. And I agree with Melito about slowing down and enjoying our families. I have never been money hungry or placed high values on material things, but in today’s times you want the best for your family. My daughter is now a teenager and I know that before long there will be question of vehicle, graduation, tuition, etc. I am trying my best to be a good role model and I want my daughter to be proud. It is scary how the economy is falling and not knowing what is going to happen in our future. All we can do is pray and strive for the best.
Im a single parent with 2 kids has graudated high school and went to college for medical assistance and it is hard out her right now if they wont to sent out another then let them just think christmas is cuming up that will help out a lot b/c with bills and trying to keep food on the table its hard not having my kids father in there life helping me out its just hard and christmas may not b real big but at least sumthing will help
I don’t know if another stimulous check will change the crisis of the economy. I guess the whole idea was to spend the money, instead alot of people paid bills and debts. I do know the money is very well needed. Who could’nt use some extra cash, all I can say is thanx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well I personally feel the same way that Natalie felt. They need to stop worrying about the prisoners and the poor. It’s sad to say but I use to feel sorry for them until I feel as though if I can work and support my kids, why can’t they do the same. The goverment only worry about the people if they don’t have anything. What about me. I work to pay my bills but If I need some help for food stamps, they would tell me that I make too much and I can’t get no food on my table. by the time I pay all the bills and take care of the kids, i don’t have any money left to buy food and sometimes I won’t eat just so my family can.
My stimulus check was used to pay bills and I can agree with kishalo, all you can say is thanx, hopefully with the second one, maybe I can go out and spend the money instead of paying bills. And furthermore, even if I did spend the first check to pay my rent, guess what, my landlord probably took my rent money and went shopping with it so eitherway it should of help the economy because the money was still spent.
I am a “stay at home mom” my husband brings home the pay check – YES one pay check FYI we make about $1800 a month and that is on the generouse side- we have two growing children. We go with out a lot of things. We dont drink $4.00 espressos every morning. I dont get my nails done every month. My kids wear hand-me-downs. I havent had a new pair of jeans or a new shirt in well over a year (I take care of the cloths I do have).
If we want cookies or treats I make them we dont buy them.( My mom was blown away that my kids had no idea what a Twinkie was). I dont ask for help from my parents – never have. I have girl friends who would die if they didnt have that espresso every morning and their nails were not done. One of them actually uses her food stamp card to buy that espresso! I am not on any assistance from the government. I shop for four people and spend around $200 a month. I dont buy bread for $3.00 a loaf – I make it or spend around .88 pr loaf. We splurged at tax time and bought a really nice espresso machine…we dont really go with out we are just creative in how we get it…my kids dont have a Wii but they can go to their friends house to play – let THEIR parents spend the money on something the kids will drop like a bad habit when the next “cool” thing comes along. I know not everyone can be a stay at home mom and I have a lot of respect for all those single moms trying to make it work. I just dont believe in spoiling myself and my family. If you want it bad enough and dont have the money then maybe you dont really need it? I would love a stimulus check, but can I live with out it? If I have to, its a good feeling to be able to say “yes”.
Oh yeah, STEVE sorry about the spelling errors. I hope your American heart can forgive me and my short comings in this area, I am pretty sure I could forgive any short comings you might have…and I will work on my spelling and grammer and think of how happy you will be for me knowing you have inspired me to “be all I can be.” Have a good one
Ok, here it go’s first off we arent even sopost to be paying the price were paying for gas’ this was bush’s idea just like hes dad wantd to pull off these guys are rich rotten rich i say after wat jr pulld off u think were paying for that gas bush aint payn a nickel on that why u think the army is over there there stealing the f n oil dont no one open there eyes and relized wat hes done now he gets to retire in a smile were he f d up the us wow give a pat in ur back who ever voted for that joke!
As long as greed is in the equation there will always be someone to blame the circumstances on.
But you aren’t the circumstances of your life— You are life.
Why let the comings and goings of a monetary system rock you—find the center in you and as a collective we will find a center on who we vote for, how we spend, how we sit with our children……..It is a matter of discipline –personal discipline–and if we take good care of our selves we will take good care of each other collectively. Believe me, for you to be here you had some pretty sturdy ancestors that survived much worse times.
I see monks that live on next to nothing and live in grace and dignity, who keep their living area clean and neat out of self respect and respect for others. Why not find the monk in our selves and teach our children how to live fully, gracefully, and responsibly, no matter what the circumstances are.
It takes slowing down first–calming yourself and looking around more deeply.
Find every way you can to look deep enough to understand–why?–because understanding is the stuff that love and family and community and country are made up of.
Why panic about something you have little control over.
This is still a great and wonderful country and we have helped more people in the world with our missionaries and loans and military protection than any other country in the world. We have much to be proud of and we spend too much time focusing on the dark side of this wonderful place of opportunities.
Stopping–calming–looking deeply –working diligently–responding to breakdowns rather than reacting. (a good formula)
Bush was and is a reflection of who we are and have been as a nation.
He is a reflection of you. Since you can’t change Bush, why not look deeply into yourself to see where it is that you are being unconscious in your life. No–I mean really be honest and look –then do the right things to resolve your issues.
if you let your issues build up without resolve it will be like a fishing line–to many knots and you cut it….does this sound familiar to those of you that are and have been divorced or are considering suicide or deserting your families?
Hey–we can do this !!!
There was this great person who once said–”its not the life that matters —its the courage you bring to it”
He also said that “if you can’t see God in all, you cant see God at all”
Appropriate verbiage for these times —no–for all times.
If we unite then we will earn our name as a country–but if we dont take good care of our own business–then who are we to unite with others…
Again i say–we can do this, and make the US and the world a better place for our children and theirs.
What good does it do to help us out if the government turns around and keeps it for back child support or back taxes. I know many people who did not receive it because of a balance owed to the Government. It’s wrong we are trying to get out of debt and the government isn’t helping when they keep it and send a letter stating sorry we kept your check because you owe us. It shouldn’t have anything to do with taxes and such. It should be to live and it should be free since they are just giving it away to millions of people who do their taxes.
The system is wrong
If Obama can raise as much money as he did for the campaign in one month. He should try to collect the money again and distribute the wealth to the tax payers!
OMG, are you kidding me! The government is finally coming to their sences and taking money back that is owed to them. It wasn’t the government that spread their legs and made anyone have kids, so why should they/we support them? Maybe they should give the people a choice… if they want social services help (food stamps, HEAP, WIC, Medicaid, etc from them) then they don’t get their income tax check. Maybe then we can afford to support our own kids and not other people’s kids too. By when we buy food, pay our heat bill, and the deductables and copays on our insurance, we are under the proverty guidelines too, but nobody realizes that. But then they are getting all of those services for free, and not having to pay back for them? That isn’t fair… Before anyone takes me the wrong way and think that I am being “mean” for saying all of this. Please read what I wrote on Sept. 25, 08 at 11:04 AM and 2:36 PM. Thanks.
steve, first of all this is not a business proposal, a term paper or etc. so spelling is not important as long as you undersatand what someone is sayn. goof. now my mother has two doc degrees and she had a hard time finding a job. she finally had to change here resume to just a master to recieve employment. now how screwed up is this economy. there are very limited jobs where i’m from. and hopefully tables will start to turn after the election.
i think that those that earn 45,000 or less should not have state & federal tax taken out of there pay checks,
tax you when you make it and tax when you spend it that’s messed up
if we could keep our MONEY then i wound not have to take a second job frome someone else who needs it
win win
tax the rich they have it not the working guy who’s trying to make ends meet
I hope they do. I hope it will be around Christmas time. We need this extra money. Things ahve been tight for all f us.
lets not be naive—what the rich will always do is move their money and businesses around and still not pay tax—that has always been the case. So no one will really tax the rich and save the poor–except maybe Robin Hood.
I believe what we all must face is that there is now a full fledged world economy and like water the economy will seek a common balance(which essentially means we will start to look a lot more like Mexico with a much higher poverty level.)— the funny part about this is that some Americans will try to escape into Mexico and will be arrested because Mexico will not put up with THAT type of immigration from poor Americans. LOLOLOL
that money helped me a lot, people that does not want it, can send it tome
first, we all know steve is an ass.. so lets not bring him up anymore. and second, im all for the 2nd stimulus. it doesnt matter what we have or dont have. we could all use more money in these hard times.
Here is the microcosm of our political leadership.
Instead of our leaders being diligent and focusing on the task at hand, they spend precious time and effort in self agrandization.
You know, being right and making others wrong. The issues here have nothing to do with personalities except for the loss of good efforts and time.
The best of workers become invisible—and all you see is the work getting done–and done well. I think it has something to do with selflessness.
I believe that if someone were to engage in work/life/relationships they would stay in the experience and in the domain of feeling. They would rarely enter the domain of thinking unless it was critical thought for the purpose of the principle. Notice that when people can’t handle the pain in feeling (unresolved issues and transgressions) or being present, they start thinking and talking. Kind of like choosing the sign to Rome over Rome itself. Our focus as a nation really needs to be about service to ourselves and to other countries and to stay diligent in the matter, just like a musician who practices often, pretty soon people will pay to hear his or her music.
Come on folks, we need to produce and sell in the deepest humility and service–i believe this is the key to prosperity.
Not just getting a pittance from our own children’s coffers.
I agree for a second stimulus check. I am a single parent and recently got laid off. I am barely making it and only get 14.00 a month for food stamps which is crazy.
I hear about how the government is helping to get the companys out of debt and everything else but what about the people? We are also hurting. Little money but everything is going up and no help out there for us.
Karrin
If i lost my job—being a working person, i would go to wal mart and get some painting equipment and start knocking on doors to paint for people and or clean homes or wash windows–or repair the screwed up carts at walmart or make sandwiches and sell them—or help older folk for pay—there is so much that a person can do–you just have to have the faith that your efforts will produce fruit–and they will.
So instead of just making business cards for a cleaning business and running an add—do your eight hours knocking on doors and offering your services–I mean working at developing your business—work is like magic–it always brings returns.
I knew a couple in Denver that did this very thing in their cleaning business and within 4 years were making over 120k clear for their own income after paying their help and overhead. Anybody listening?
We can do this–we can become prosperous AND honest, we can show the world what were made off. We can inspire everyone with our courage and diligent effort.
Helllooo–there is no one out there for you—you were given all that is necessary to to handle your own life financially and in every other way….Forget the idea of being bailed out–your happiness is at stake here–if you handle your own situation imagine how you will feel. Imagine what you will be teaching your children.
I think all the yahoo’s in DC needs to either give the people a check or quit talking about it so as not to get american voters hopes up. Especially my kids so as they can sing santa bush is coming to town at CHRISTMAS TIME. HO! HO! HO! MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
as a single mother of soon to be four kids, i agree and disagree with the second stimulas package. anymore people have forgotten the true value of a dollar. i think a second one is needed to help get out of the financial ruin most people are in then they need to take classes on budgeting maybe from us single parents who live literally paycheck to paycheck.
I wouldn’t mind another stimulas package check. I just hope I don’t have to turn around and use it to stimulate Shell Corporation, or Exxon, or send it to some other country because they have to pay to label products with the country of origin sticker.
I would not mind a second check either. My husband is a full time hard worker whos hours have been cut back because of this crappy economy. I on the other hand stay home and raise our 3 children because the cost of daycare was taking my entire paycheck. We also live paycheck to paycheck which really sucks as most of us know! So ya our bills are also quite behind due to the government and the finacial situation of our country. But yet our house taxes,car taxes, sewer tax, and everyother tax we have to pay keep rising! So yes I do believe that everyone deserves to get a piece of “our money” back.
I think if they can’t get us another stim. check..then maybe they should lower our tax bracket..for example: instead of taking like 15 % for federal taxes out of our paycheck..maybe they should reduce it down to like 10% of our paycheck goes to federal.
I know this is not the real percentages..it is only an example.
They could do this for about 1/2 of the year and that would most likely help out the hard working people.
I also agree a second stimulus check will help out a lot! I work full-time at work and I am in school for Criminal Justice! I wish I can take on another job but I also have two children 1 boy 11 and 1 daughter 3 who needs me as well. It is very hard out here. I have to get someone to watch my daughter because daycare wants like $125( the cheapest I found so far). How do we really survive out here in this society!
what is the point in getting a second stimulas check if some idiot like the great govenor of alabama makes the citizens of our state pays taxes on it at the end of the year. govenor bob riley doesn’t have to worry about living from paycheck to paycheck!!! LIKE WE ALL DO!!!!!
I also am a single mother of 2 who made poor judgement in the men who fathered my children. I get $10 a month in childsupport if Im lucky. I work hard 2 support my family. I don’t make a lot of money but enough 2 where in ppls eyes don’t qualify 4 assistence. I wrk 2 jobs and it is still not enough I dnt spend money on things I dnt need like my nails or hair , the vehicle I drive is 8 yrs old. Everyone is having 2 struggle 2 make ends meet and there are ppl who are fortunate 2 not have been affected by the economic problems we are having now. But 4 the millions of us that have been affected keep ur heads up we are in good hands now. Yeah Obama
I know that alot of us Americans, live from paycheck to paycheck and now that with the major holidays and property taxes approaching we need extra money. I don’t have extra money put aside, because all of it went to the soaring gas and food prices. My husband and I make well above minamum wage, and we don’t go out and blow our money. It is strictly for bills!!!!! So, please send a second check because we need the money. The ones that aren’t for the check is either because they have plenty of money or mommy and daddy has plenty of money, but as far as the middle and low class who actually have to work one or more jobs for a living, PLEASE! and I mean PLEASE HELP!!!