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		<title>By: PF</title>
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		<dc:creator>PF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting idea to bring them together. 

Yet, I think although they are similar in the way that both is about the 2nd highest option, there is fundamental difference between them. 

Opportunity Cost, is really a kind of &quot;cost&quot;. 

For example, I choose to go swimming, mean that I lose the chance of my 2nd highest valued activity, say biking. 

So, I can say, my cost of go swimming is biking. I really have given up (paid) the biking to exchange for swimming. 

For BATNA, I think we won&#039;t consider it as a &quot;cost&quot; 

For example, If company A offers me $20K/mth, while I am negotiating with company B, then my best alternative is $20K (BATNA). Say, finally, company B offers me $22K/mth. Then of coz I wll choose B. 

But, will we say &quot;I take the $22K offer with a cost of giving up the $20K offer&quot;? 

My feeling is, BANTA is something we are ready to &amp; willing to give up, if we can make a better negotiated option. 

For the opportunity cost issue, both swimming &amp; biking we do not want to give up, but we HAVE to give up the less good one. So, the option that we give up is really a &quot;cost&quot;. 

While, I think it is a bit strange to consider the BANTA that we wish we can give it up as a &quot;cost&quot;.  I think I would feel more comfortable to decribe it as &quot;best contingency plan&quot; or &quot;best backup option&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting idea to bring them together. </p>
<p>Yet, I think although they are similar in the way that both is about the 2nd highest option, there is fundamental difference between them. </p>
<p>Opportunity Cost, is really a kind of &#8220;cost&#8221;. </p>
<p>For example, I choose to go swimming, mean that I lose the chance of my 2nd highest valued activity, say biking. </p>
<p>So, I can say, my cost of go swimming is biking. I really have given up (paid) the biking to exchange for swimming. </p>
<p>For BATNA, I think we won&#8217;t consider it as a &#8220;cost&#8221; </p>
<p>For example, If company A offers me $20K/mth, while I am negotiating with company B, then my best alternative is $20K (BATNA). Say, finally, company B offers me $22K/mth. Then of coz I wll choose B. </p>
<p>But, will we say &#8220;I take the $22K offer with a cost of giving up the $20K offer&#8221;? </p>
<p>My feeling is, BANTA is something we are ready to &amp; willing to give up, if we can make a better negotiated option. </p>
<p>For the opportunity cost issue, both swimming &amp; biking we do not want to give up, but we HAVE to give up the less good one. So, the option that we give up is really a &#8220;cost&#8221;. </p>
<p>While, I think it is a bit strange to consider the BANTA that we wish we can give it up as a &#8220;cost&#8221;.  I think I would feel more comfortable to decribe it as &#8220;best contingency plan&#8221; or &#8220;best backup option&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  A very useful tool for savvy consumers-- everything is negotiable to some extent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  A very useful tool for savvy consumers&#8211; everything is negotiable to some extent.</p>
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		<title>By: Damon Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damon Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jim,

I think most people are familiar with the concept but maybe don&#039;t actually know they are employing it when they do.  We use it quite a bit when negotiating with our client&#039;s creditors.  When you know that the creditor is going to be charging the account off the books in a few weeks, it makes the negotiation much easier.  We know what their alternative is and by making a better offer at the right time, to the right person, a deal gets done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jim,</p>
<p>I think most people are familiar with the concept but maybe don&#8217;t actually know they are employing it when they do.  We use it quite a bit when negotiating with our client&#8217;s creditors.  When you know that the creditor is going to be charging the account off the books in a few weeks, it makes the negotiation much easier.  We know what their alternative is and by making a better offer at the right time, to the right person, a deal gets done.</p>
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		<title>By: David @ DINKS Finance</title>
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		<dc:creator>David @ DINKS Finance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting concept.  You are right, that it is very similar to opportunity cost.  An example of BATNA in practice would be Donald Trump making lowball offers for buildings that he knows the owners want to sell but can&#039;t find a buyer.  He&#039;s gotten some amazing deals using this concept.

-DC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting concept.  You are right, that it is very similar to opportunity cost.  An example of BATNA in practice would be Donald Trump making lowball offers for buildings that he knows the owners want to sell but can&#8217;t find a buyer.  He&#8217;s gotten some amazing deals using this concept.</p>
<p>-DC</p>
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