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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/can-you-really-give-up-your-car.html/comment-page-1#comment-293946</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to ignore Zook&#039;s comments because he&#039;s just acting like a little child whose conscience is being challenged. I don&#039;t have time for that because the discussion has sooo moved beyond that foolishness. 

Anyway, I would say that making the transition for leading a greener life should be gradual and at one&#039;s own pace within means. In other words, if you&#039;ve been driving for decades and then up and sell your car tomorrow and then expect to start using transit for all your mobility needs the day after that, you&#039;re fooling yourself. 

Also, when you make the transition: think long-term. When you buy clothing, particularly, everyday wear: stick with the staples and for crying out loud, purchase quality clothing. One of the reasons the quality of our clothes -- and consumer items in general -- have deteriorated so much is because most of us have bought into this &quot;it can break or rip because I can replace it tomorrow&quot; mantra. Buy quality the first time, so that it can be repaired or mended. I am a big buy: 6&#039;3&quot; and 220lbs, and I use transit and my legs to move around. This means that I need quality shoes, and when they become worn out, I just have them re-soled, and I&#039;ve saved hundreds by doing that. In regards to clothing. I buy good, quality clothing so that they can be mended without ruining the fabric and the untrained eye would never know. Thankfully, my mom taught me how to mend my own socks and pants seems, but I do understand that that isn&#039;t typical for most guys. But, simply find a decent dry-cleaners.

Also, eat less but more quality foods. I&#039;ve tried it, and it works. As a matter of fact, that&#039;s part of the reason I&#039;ve lost so much weight (that and walking everywhere). I eat more fruit and veggies, but I buy just enough to get by, which eliminates waste because I use up everything I buy. I do not shop in bulk even when a hurricane is threatening our area. I just get enough for 72 hours, if that.

Now, those who claim that they don&#039;t have time to shop every few days, that&#039;s understandable, but you&#039;d be surprised how you find time when you give it a try. I used to say the same thing, but I&#039;ve found that if you want something to work, it kinda does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to ignore Zook&#8217;s comments because he&#8217;s just acting like a little child whose conscience is being challenged. I don&#8217;t have time for that because the discussion has sooo moved beyond that foolishness. </p>
<p>Anyway, I would say that making the transition for leading a greener life should be gradual and at one&#8217;s own pace within means. In other words, if you&#8217;ve been driving for decades and then up and sell your car tomorrow and then expect to start using transit for all your mobility needs the day after that, you&#8217;re fooling yourself. </p>
<p>Also, when you make the transition: think long-term. When you buy clothing, particularly, everyday wear: stick with the staples and for crying out loud, purchase quality clothing. One of the reasons the quality of our clothes &#8212; and consumer items in general &#8212; have deteriorated so much is because most of us have bought into this &#8220;it can break or rip because I can replace it tomorrow&#8221; mantra. Buy quality the first time, so that it can be repaired or mended. I am a big buy: 6&#8242;3&#8243; and 220lbs, and I use transit and my legs to move around. This means that I need quality shoes, and when they become worn out, I just have them re-soled, and I&#8217;ve saved hundreds by doing that. In regards to clothing. I buy good, quality clothing so that they can be mended without ruining the fabric and the untrained eye would never know. Thankfully, my mom taught me how to mend my own socks and pants seems, but I do understand that that isn&#8217;t typical for most guys. But, simply find a decent dry-cleaners.</p>
<p>Also, eat less but more quality foods. I&#8217;ve tried it, and it works. As a matter of fact, that&#8217;s part of the reason I&#8217;ve lost so much weight (that and walking everywhere). I eat more fruit and veggies, but I buy just enough to get by, which eliminates waste because I use up everything I buy. I do not shop in bulk even when a hurricane is threatening our area. I just get enough for 72 hours, if that.</p>
<p>Now, those who claim that they don&#8217;t have time to shop every few days, that&#8217;s understandable, but you&#8217;d be surprised how you find time when you give it a try. I used to say the same thing, but I&#8217;ve found that if you want something to work, it kinda does.</p>
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		<title>By: Dook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a sense of balance in our lifestyles is appealing and beneficial to us in this financially tight era and for our conscious towards those less fortunate.  As for the main man Zooky, we certainly don&#039;t have to listen to a glossy ad campaign or go to church to know what the right thing to do is.  Sure, maybe you&#039;ve been around for a bit and have heard the same do-good message countless times.  Maybe you feel fed-up and angry that the message will never be heeded because people prefer easy comfort over hard change.  Maybe you don&#039;t wanna agree with people just to stand out and feel special.  Maybe you should get in the octagon with Ken Shamrock and show the world the grit and determination that puts you on the throne above the rest. Hail King Zook! A-woo-gah! ;op  p.s. my apologies for getting personal, i myself am no better even if i think i am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a sense of balance in our lifestyles is appealing and beneficial to us in this financially tight era and for our conscious towards those less fortunate.  As for the main man Zooky, we certainly don&#8217;t have to listen to a glossy ad campaign or go to church to know what the right thing to do is.  Sure, maybe you&#8217;ve been around for a bit and have heard the same do-good message countless times.  Maybe you feel fed-up and angry that the message will never be heeded because people prefer easy comfort over hard change.  Maybe you don&#8217;t wanna agree with people just to stand out and feel special.  Maybe you should get in the octagon with Ken Shamrock and show the world the grit and determination that puts you on the throne above the rest. Hail King Zook! A-woo-gah! ;op  p.s. my apologies for getting personal, i myself am no better even if i think i am.</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I have found my life significantly changed, mostly because up until December of last year, I was blithering through life living paycheck to paycheck.  But giving up the car is out of the question.  However, I have been making changes.  

I have a 37 mile one way commute.  I live in a rural area and I work in another rural area where there is no public transportation.  Sure I could work closer to home if I wanted to take a $7 per hour paycut, or moving closer to work would entail paying rent (which I do not do presently).  I have a non hybrid car that gets 34 mpg (looking into hypermiling)  so I fill up 3 times every two weeks ($240 per month up $60 a month from last year) .  I have considered a motorcyle, but in northeast ohio that is only good for about 5 months out of the year (if it isnt raining, and we have get a lot of rain). 

I don&#039;t think there are any easy answers to this, but like it or not, people are going to have to make changes in the way they drive.

A local insurance company is running a contest - $10 million to the team that can engineer a car that can get 100 miles to the gallon and be put into production in the US. Germany has been doing it for years. European cars routinely get over 50 mpg.   I don&#039;t see why we can&#039;t either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I have found my life significantly changed, mostly because up until December of last year, I was blithering through life living paycheck to paycheck.  But giving up the car is out of the question.  However, I have been making changes.  </p>
<p>I have a 37 mile one way commute.  I live in a rural area and I work in another rural area where there is no public transportation.  Sure I could work closer to home if I wanted to take a $7 per hour paycut, or moving closer to work would entail paying rent (which I do not do presently).  I have a non hybrid car that gets 34 mpg (looking into hypermiling)  so I fill up 3 times every two weeks ($240 per month up $60 a month from last year) .  I have considered a motorcyle, but in northeast ohio that is only good for about 5 months out of the year (if it isnt raining, and we have get a lot of rain). </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there are any easy answers to this, but like it or not, people are going to have to make changes in the way they drive.</p>
<p>A local insurance company is running a contest &#8211; $10 million to the team that can engineer a car that can get 100 miles to the gallon and be put into production in the US. Germany has been doing it for years. European cars routinely get over 50 mpg.   I don&#8217;t see why we can&#8217;t either.</p>
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		<title>By: Zook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 13:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhhh...Where to start.  Where to start.  Your post is the standard liberal weenie stuff I just can&#039;t take anymore.  The government sucks, the economy sucks, Americans are bad for buying a nice house in the suburbs and we should try to be more like............The Europeans.  That will solve everything.  If we could just gain more of the wisdom from Europe, the US would be a better place to love.

Stevie B., why don&#039;t you simply split for on of the great and &quot;perfect&quot; European countries?  What is holding you back?  The Europeans are much better at everything including not using as much water among all of the other things not listed.

As far as living in the third world comment.  For my specific example, yes, I would suggest that person is trying to live like they do in the third world, in a faux reality where wiping your butt with ONE square piece of TP is &quot;cool&quot;, buying organically grown and local produce at Whole Paycheck for $300/week is &quot;the right thing to do&quot; and last, but not least, ranting and raving about how the US needs to become more like Europe is so &quot;vogue&quot;.  

Your comments about living on a cup of rice a day are odd to say the least.  What are you suggesting or hinting at here?  That 300+ million American&#039;s should starve themselves?  The folks in this world living on a cup of rice a day are starving sir, malnourished and are not something we should be striving for you dork.

Notice I skip the pathetic personal insults.....Well other than you being a &quot;dork&quot;, which is a pretty minor insult considering I lost my conscience &quot;years ago&quot;.  How did I manage not to insult you more sans a conscience?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhhh&#8230;Where to start.  Where to start.  Your post is the standard liberal weenie stuff I just can&#8217;t take anymore.  The government sucks, the economy sucks, Americans are bad for buying a nice house in the suburbs and we should try to be more like&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;The Europeans.  That will solve everything.  If we could just gain more of the wisdom from Europe, the US would be a better place to love.</p>
<p>Stevie B., why don&#8217;t you simply split for on of the great and &#8220;perfect&#8221; European countries?  What is holding you back?  The Europeans are much better at everything including not using as much water among all of the other things not listed.</p>
<p>As far as living in the third world comment.  For my specific example, yes, I would suggest that person is trying to live like they do in the third world, in a faux reality where wiping your butt with ONE square piece of TP is &#8220;cool&#8221;, buying organically grown and local produce at Whole Paycheck for $300/week is &#8220;the right thing to do&#8221; and last, but not least, ranting and raving about how the US needs to become more like Europe is so &#8220;vogue&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Your comments about living on a cup of rice a day are odd to say the least.  What are you suggesting or hinting at here?  That 300+ million American&#8217;s should starve themselves?  The folks in this world living on a cup of rice a day are starving sir, malnourished and are not something we should be striving for you dork.</p>
<p>Notice I skip the pathetic personal insults&#8230;..Well other than you being a &#8220;dork&#8221;, which is a pretty minor insult considering I lost my conscience &#8220;years ago&#8221;.  How did I manage not to insult you more sans a conscience?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 14:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason people in North America are taking drastic measures is because the economy is going down the drain. Most people have overconsumed, overspent, and are in debt beyond their means. They bought a big house in the suburbs that is a waste of space, they have to drive everywhere to purchase whatever they need. Taxes are up at every level, the government prints more money out of thin air, reducing the true purchasing power of your dollars. Money supply is growing at say, 10% but you&#039;re not getting annual raises of 10%. People are looking at every aspect of their lives and wondering: Why do we do it this way? Why are we so wasteful? Why do Europeans use so much less water than us? North Americans have a LONG way to go before we&#039;re living anywhere near the 3rd world. When there are people who have a half cup of rice a day to eat, is it any wonder North Americans are taking drastic measures? It&#039;s called having a conscience. Maybe you lost yours years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason people in North America are taking drastic measures is because the economy is going down the drain. Most people have overconsumed, overspent, and are in debt beyond their means. They bought a big house in the suburbs that is a waste of space, they have to drive everywhere to purchase whatever they need. Taxes are up at every level, the government prints more money out of thin air, reducing the true purchasing power of your dollars. Money supply is growing at say, 10% but you&#8217;re not getting annual raises of 10%. People are looking at every aspect of their lives and wondering: Why do we do it this way? Why are we so wasteful? Why do Europeans use so much less water than us? North Americans have a LONG way to go before we&#8217;re living anywhere near the 3rd world. When there are people who have a half cup of rice a day to eat, is it any wonder North Americans are taking drastic measures? It&#8217;s called having a conscience. Maybe you lost yours years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 19:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google transit isn&#039;t a perfect solution, though. I checked it out in my area because my husband and I share a car, and sometimes I may need to get to my son&#039;s speech therapy on the bus. But it claimed the way to do it required much more walking than I think it does.

It only seems to note the stops that are listed on the schedule on the local transit system&#039;s website. There are a lot of unlisted stops that I drive by every time we go there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google transit isn&#8217;t a perfect solution, though. I checked it out in my area because my husband and I share a car, and sometimes I may need to get to my son&#8217;s speech therapy on the bus. But it claimed the way to do it required much more walking than I think it does.</p>
<p>It only seems to note the stops that are listed on the schedule on the local transit system&#8217;s website. There are a lot of unlisted stops that I drive by every time we go there.</p>
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		<title>By: The Shark Investor</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Shark Investor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 17:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at people in Asia, they all use bikes or scooters. It&#039;s not only more economical and ecological, but makes the traffic much better. 
If you use electric scooter, your transportation will be almost free. But that&#039;s not an option if you have to drive for more than 20-30 km because it will need to be recharged</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at people in Asia, they all use bikes or scooters. It&#8217;s not only more economical and ecological, but makes the traffic much better.<br />
If you use electric scooter, your transportation will be almost free. But that&#8217;s not an option if you have to drive for more than 20-30 km because it will need to be recharged</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 16:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For people looking to walk or bike, you might want to look at MapMyRun.com where you can basically use Google Maps to sketch out a custom route (including any trails or shortcuts you take that are not shown on the map since it usually only shows streets).

Hampton Roads residents can use Traffix (http://www.traffixonline.org/) to find alternative transportation modes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For people looking to walk or bike, you might want to look at MapMyRun.com where you can basically use Google Maps to sketch out a custom route (including any trails or shortcuts you take that are not shown on the map since it usually only shows streets).</p>
<p>Hampton Roads residents can use Traffix (<a href="http://www.traffixonline.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.traffixonline.org/</a>) to find alternative transportation modes.</p>
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		<title>By: Zook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 15:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn...

I have been doing a lot of the things you speak of for years....years before it was the &quot;cool&quot; thing to do because I felt like it and I saved money doing so.  I didn&#039;t need a blog or Al Gore to tell me if I take 45-minute showers, twice a day, I will pay through the nose.  Just don&#039;t tell me to do them or I am a bad guy.  And that IS the implication I get from the greater media these days.

And yes, many folks are reverting to a third-world existence if you ask me.  Limit the use of toilet paper?  WTF?  You are making $75K a year and using one square of TP?  It&#039;s a joke.  Just go poop out in the backyard and use a leaf.  

I pay for the gas and electricity to heat the hot water and if I want to take a 8-minute steaming hot shower, I shouldn&#039;t be looked down upon.  This riles my feathers as you can tell.  I am not a bad guy and I am big into the environment, but the &quot;solutions&quot; being tossed around are PATHETIC!!!!

Who can give up their car?  Seriously?  If you have a car, you obviously need one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn&#8230;</p>
<p>I have been doing a lot of the things you speak of for years&#8230;.years before it was the &#8220;cool&#8221; thing to do because I felt like it and I saved money doing so.  I didn&#8217;t need a blog or Al Gore to tell me if I take 45-minute showers, twice a day, I will pay through the nose.  Just don&#8217;t tell me to do them or I am a bad guy.  And that IS the implication I get from the greater media these days.</p>
<p>And yes, many folks are reverting to a third-world existence if you ask me.  Limit the use of toilet paper?  WTF?  You are making $75K a year and using one square of TP?  It&#8217;s a joke.  Just go poop out in the backyard and use a leaf.  </p>
<p>I pay for the gas and electricity to heat the hot water and if I want to take a 8-minute steaming hot shower, I shouldn&#8217;t be looked down upon.  This riles my feathers as you can tell.  I am not a bad guy and I am big into the environment, but the &#8220;solutions&#8221; being tossed around are PATHETIC!!!!</p>
<p>Who can give up their car?  Seriously?  If you have a car, you obviously need one.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Lasher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Lasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gadzooks, Zook!  No, we don&#039;t want to revert to a third-world existence, but there are a lot of things that we do very irresponsibly that we can and should do better at.  

Some folks are using greywater tanks, yes.  Some people are being very conservative with the TP, yes.  Some people are buying used clothes, yes.  These are admittedly extreme cases.

As for the rest.... recycling, turning off the lights, taking &lt;i&gt;short&lt;/i&gt; showers (I don&#039;t advocate taking cold ones -- potentially unhealthy), busing, biking, buying local foods, what&#039;s wrong with any of that?

Especially on the topic of buying local foods, I would point out that in doing so you are supporting the local economy, also, and maybe saving a few local jobs from being gobbled up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gadzooks, Zook!  No, we don&#8217;t want to revert to a third-world existence, but there are a lot of things that we do very irresponsibly that we can and should do better at.  </p>
<p>Some folks are using greywater tanks, yes.  Some people are being very conservative with the TP, yes.  Some people are buying used clothes, yes.  These are admittedly extreme cases.</p>
<p>As for the rest&#8230;. recycling, turning off the lights, taking <i>short</i> showers (I don&#8217;t advocate taking cold ones &#8212; potentially unhealthy), busing, biking, buying local foods, what&#8217;s wrong with any of that?</p>
<p>Especially on the topic of buying local foods, I would point out that in doing so you are supporting the local economy, also, and maybe saving a few local jobs from being gobbled up.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 04:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the easiest thing to do is work from home.  That eliminates the primary need for transportation.

There are maybe three things I miss about having a car.
1) an on-demand social life.  Being sociable with a friend across town can take upwards of an hour or two to get there...and back.
2) Carrying groceries in the car.  Cause on your back or in a lot of sacks you carry isn&#039;t so fun.  On the other hand many supermarkets do local deliveries now.
3) hmmm...can&#039;t think of the third one right now.  Must not be important ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the easiest thing to do is work from home.  That eliminates the primary need for transportation.</p>
<p>There are maybe three things I miss about having a car.<br />
1) an on-demand social life.  Being sociable with a friend across town can take upwards of an hour or two to get there&#8230;and back.<br />
2) Carrying groceries in the car.  Cause on your back or in a lot of sacks you carry isn&#8217;t so fun.  On the other hand many supermarkets do local deliveries now.<br />
3) hmmm&#8230;can&#8217;t think of the third one right now.  Must not be important <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 23:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NYC may not have &quot;Take Public Transit&quot; from Google Maps, but we have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hopstop.com/?city=newyork&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HopStop.com&lt;/a&gt;.  (Which also includes Boston, Chicago, San Francisco and Washington DC.)

It&#039;s a little wiggly in spots.  If you want to walk across the Brooklyn Bridge, it may tell you to exit at a point that will require a grappling hook and rope.  It has no qualms about telling you to take a bus one stop to get to a subway station when the subway station is in easy walking distance from your starting point.  But all in all?  Not bad. 

I sold my car shortly after moving to Brooklyn.  I hope I get as reliable a car the next time I buy one, but for now?  It&#039;s feet, mass transit, the occasional cab, and no regrets about not owning a car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYC may not have &#8220;Take Public Transit&#8221; from Google Maps, but we have <a href="http://www.hopstop.com/?city=newyork" rel="nofollow">HopStop.com</a>.  (Which also includes Boston, Chicago, San Francisco and Washington DC.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a little wiggly in spots.  If you want to walk across the Brooklyn Bridge, it may tell you to exit at a point that will require a grappling hook and rope.  It has no qualms about telling you to take a bus one stop to get to a subway station when the subway station is in easy walking distance from your starting point.  But all in all?  Not bad. </p>
<p>I sold my car shortly after moving to Brooklyn.  I hope I get as reliable a car the next time I buy one, but for now?  It&#8217;s feet, mass transit, the occasional cab, and no regrets about not owning a car.</p>
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		<title>By: Zook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 21:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Use a ONE square of toilet paper, bike to work, re-use water from the sink to water the lawn and garden, turn off lights, take cold showers, bus to work, buy worn clothing, buy local foods, recycle everything....

What is going on these days?  I am literally baffled at the level folks are going to.

If this is the way you want to live, I am honestly confused.  

We got folks who would die to live here to use all of our services, drive cool cars, shop at our stores etc.......and then we got folks who live in the US that want to live like they do in rural Azerbaijan.  

I am all for some of these ideas, but you combine a bunch and it is just the way I don&#039;t want to live!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use a ONE square of toilet paper, bike to work, re-use water from the sink to water the lawn and garden, turn off lights, take cold showers, bus to work, buy worn clothing, buy local foods, recycle everything&#8230;.</p>
<p>What is going on these days?  I am literally baffled at the level folks are going to.</p>
<p>If this is the way you want to live, I am honestly confused.  </p>
<p>We got folks who would die to live here to use all of our services, drive cool cars, shop at our stores etc&#8230;&#8230;.and then we got folks who live in the US that want to live like they do in rural Azerbaijan.  </p>
<p>I am all for some of these ideas, but you combine a bunch and it is just the way I don&#8217;t want to live!</p>
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		<title>By: salas</title>
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		<dc:creator>salas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 20:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most major cities have car shares now, so you can pay for a car just when you need it... Usually they have a lot of hybrids in their fleets as well.  Examples are FlexCar and ZipCar.  I live in Philadelphia so I use PhillyCarShare</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most major cities have car shares now, so you can pay for a car just when you need it&#8230; Usually they have a lot of hybrids in their fleets as well.  Examples are FlexCar and ZipCar.  I live in Philadelphia so I use PhillyCarShare</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 19:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buy a scooter -- or better yet a motorcycle -- and get 50 to 100 mpg. Saves a whole bunch on gas and they&#039;re really not all that expensive. If you can get rid of one car you&#039;d definately be coming out ahead right away.

I own a sport bike and even that gets 50-60 mpg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buy a scooter &#8212; or better yet a motorcycle &#8212; and get 50 to 100 mpg. Saves a whole bunch on gas and they&#8217;re really not all that expensive. If you can get rid of one car you&#8217;d definately be coming out ahead right away.</p>
<p>I own a sport bike and even that gets 50-60 mpg.</p>
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