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		<title>By: jeremy schaedler</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeremy schaedler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jim, I think you have a great srategy for evaluating when to self insure and when to insure through an insurance company. I think its a great idea for people who are not real risk averse to practice using higher deductibles and saving the difference.  I would wager that insurance companies have much lower claims with clients who practice this method.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jim, I think you have a great srategy for evaluating when to self insure and when to insure through an insurance company. I think its a great idea for people who are not real risk averse to practice using higher deductibles and saving the difference.  I would wager that insurance companies have much lower claims with clients who practice this method.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have a good driving record, I would suggest Amica for car insurance. They dont insure &quot;High Risk&quot; users, so if you have a ticket or accident in the past 3 years, you may be denied. At 23, no accidents for 3 years and a policy of 100/200/100 with a 500$ deductible, its only 900$ a year(of course PIP and everything else required by the state of Florida). Furthermore, as many may know, insurance companies generally do a 6 month policy. They will tease you with a low rate for the first 6 months and yank it up on renewal. Amica is one of the few insurance companies that does a 1 year contract. Lets just say, i am very happy with my insurance company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have a good driving record, I would suggest Amica for car insurance. They dont insure &#8220;High Risk&#8221; users, so if you have a ticket or accident in the past 3 years, you may be denied. At 23, no accidents for 3 years and a policy of 100/200/100 with a 500$ deductible, its only 900$ a year(of course PIP and everything else required by the state of Florida). Furthermore, as many may know, insurance companies generally do a 6 month policy. They will tease you with a low rate for the first 6 months and yank it up on renewal. Amica is one of the few insurance companies that does a 1 year contract. Lets just say, i am very happy with my insurance company.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMadTurtle</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMadTurtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup!  Since the birth of my son, I&#039;ve taken out a hefty term policy on myself for that very reason.  I&#039;m the sole breadwinner, so the insurance would give my wife and son enough to live on with just the interest.  Later, they can use some of the principle to pay for college or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup!  Since the birth of my son, I&#8217;ve taken out a hefty term policy on myself for that very reason.  I&#8217;m the sole breadwinner, so the insurance would give my wife and son enough to live on with just the interest.  Later, they can use some of the principle to pay for college or something.</p>
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		<title>By: echidnina</title>
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		<dc:creator>echidnina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, life insurance definitely isn&#039;t suitable for people in all situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, life insurance definitely isn&#8217;t suitable for people in all situations.</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good topic. I love the car insurance idea and that&#039;s something I&#039;m doing also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good topic. I love the car insurance idea and that&#8217;s something I&#8217;m doing also.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It depends on if you have people other than you who depend on your income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends on if you have people other than you who depend on your income.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree...not worth the hassle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree&#8230;not worth the hassle</p>
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		<title>By: Soccer9040</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soccer9040</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like you already have a pretty sweet deal on your insurance. Probably not worth self insuring with those pay back periods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like you already have a pretty sweet deal on your insurance. Probably not worth self insuring with those pay back periods.</p>
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		<title>By: aua868s</title>
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		<dc:creator>aua868s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have been avoiding life insurance...its time i got one</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have been avoiding life insurance&#8230;its time i got one</p>
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		<title>By: jsbrendog</title>
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		<dc:creator>jsbrendog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is an interesting idea. I like it for car insurance. maybe I will try it out once I get my car</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is an interesting idea. I like it for car insurance. maybe I will try it out once I get my car</p>
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		<title>By: Shirley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At $715 per 6 months for full coverage on 3 cars (1995-2000) the savings would take longer to even out than we will probably be driving.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At $715 per 6 months for full coverage on 3 cars (1995-2000) the savings would take longer to even out than we will probably be driving.  <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does require self-discipline but if you want to save money, you have to pay for it somehow and extra work is the easiest/quickest way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does require self-discipline but if you want to save money, you have to pay for it somehow and extra work is the easiest/quickest way.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the basic concept behind Health Savings Accounts (HSAs), and its a great one. 

Another positive aspect of self-insuring the initial loss is that it makes smarter consumers. 

Let&#039;s say you get into a car accident and need repairs. With some effort, you could find a carpool to/from work for 2 weeks while the repairs or made, or you could spring for a rental car @ $30/day or more. 

If *you&#039;re* paying the $30/day, carpooling starts to sound pretty good, even if you do &quot;have the money&quot; saved already for it. If the insurance company is providing the car, there&#039;s little incentive not to take it.

But, as with so many things, self-insurance requires on-going self-discipline. HSAs help with this because they put the funds out of reach, but they still make them available if you absolutely need them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the basic concept behind Health Savings Accounts (HSAs), and its a great one. </p>
<p>Another positive aspect of self-insuring the initial loss is that it makes smarter consumers. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say you get into a car accident and need repairs. With some effort, you could find a carpool to/from work for 2 weeks while the repairs or made, or you could spring for a rental car @ $30/day or more. </p>
<p>If *you&#8217;re* paying the $30/day, carpooling starts to sound pretty good, even if you do &#8220;have the money&#8221; saved already for it. If the insurance company is providing the car, there&#8217;s little incentive not to take it.</p>
<p>But, as with so many things, self-insurance requires on-going self-discipline. HSAs help with this because they put the funds out of reach, but they still make them available if you absolutely need them.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, thanks for posting this. I noticed my medical payments coverage was only $1,000 per person for at-fault accidents and because of a recent experience, I now know even the most benign emergency room visit easily will cost $1,250+ before insurance. I increased the coverage to $5,000 for only $3.02 per month (it will take 110 years before this change could be self insured at that rate for even one person in one accident)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, thanks for posting this. I noticed my medical payments coverage was only $1,000 per person for at-fault accidents and because of a recent experience, I now know even the most benign emergency room visit easily will cost $1,250+ before insurance. I increased the coverage to $5,000 for only $3.02 per month (it will take 110 years before this change could be self insured at that rate for even one person in one accident)</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 2000 and 2006 car insured with GEICO. For fun I tested changing my current deductible for collision from $100 to $1000. It saved a total of $79.80 over 6 months which calculated out would take 5 years 7 months to recoup in self-insurance. If I raised comprehensive to the same level from the same level it would increase to a little over $100 savings for only a 50 month recovery time.

The only real savings to be had would be if I completely removed collision, comprehensive, emergency road side assistance, and rental reimbursement from my older car. That would save $136.30 per 6 month period. The KBB private party value is $2,485 which would take 109 months to save up.

In summary, I have seriously cheap auto insurance through GEICO. $605.10 6 month premium for two cars with 50000/100000 bodily liability coverage and similar coverages for other levels along with $100 deductibles for comprehensive and collision, Emergency Roadside Service on one vehicle (the other has it as part of an extended warranty) and Rental Reimbursement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 2000 and 2006 car insured with GEICO. For fun I tested changing my current deductible for collision from $100 to $1000. It saved a total of $79.80 over 6 months which calculated out would take 5 years 7 months to recoup in self-insurance. If I raised comprehensive to the same level from the same level it would increase to a little over $100 savings for only a 50 month recovery time.</p>
<p>The only real savings to be had would be if I completely removed collision, comprehensive, emergency road side assistance, and rental reimbursement from my older car. That would save $136.30 per 6 month period. The KBB private party value is $2,485 which would take 109 months to save up.</p>
<p>In summary, I have seriously cheap auto insurance through GEICO. $605.10 6 month premium for two cars with 50000/100000 bodily liability coverage and similar coverages for other levels along with $100 deductibles for comprehensive and collision, Emergency Roadside Service on one vehicle (the other has it as part of an extended warranty) and Rental Reimbursement.</p>
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