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	<title>Comments on: Credit Card Reform Imminent: Senate Passes CARD Act of 2009</title>
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		<title>By: margie</title>
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		<dc:creator>margie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 23:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have heard that you start paying interest the minute that you swipe your card.  This means of course that when you receive your first bill there will be interest already charged.  Is that correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard that you start paying interest the minute that you swipe your card.  This means of course that when you receive your first bill there will be interest already charged.  Is that correct.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a populist bill, a majority of Americans carry a balance, so they are completely in favor of the bill.</description>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it a rip-off when credit card companies clearly state &quot;unfair&quot; practices in their Terms and Conditions?

From Citi:
&quot;We have the right to change the rates, fees, and terms at any time, for any reason, in accordance with the cardmember agreement and applicable law. These reasons may be based on information in your credit report, such as your failure to make payments to another creditor when due, amounts owed to other creditors, the number of credit accounts outstanding, or the number of credit inquiries. &quot;

A credit card is a revolving loan, you sign a contract when you apply.  If you do not pay off your loan each month, then you must face the consequences.  Unfair rate kikes, fees, double cycle billing are agreed to by the consumer.  It is your responsiblity to understand the contract you sign.  If you don&#039;t like the terms, find another card or don&#039;t sign up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it a rip-off when credit card companies clearly state &#8220;unfair&#8221; practices in their Terms and Conditions?</p>
<p>From Citi:<br />
&#8220;We have the right to change the rates, fees, and terms at any time, for any reason, in accordance with the cardmember agreement and applicable law. These reasons may be based on information in your credit report, such as your failure to make payments to another creditor when due, amounts owed to other creditors, the number of credit accounts outstanding, or the number of credit inquiries. &#8221;</p>
<p>A credit card is a revolving loan, you sign a contract when you apply.  If you do not pay off your loan each month, then you must face the consequences.  Unfair rate kikes, fees, double cycle billing are agreed to by the consumer.  It is your responsiblity to understand the contract you sign.  If you don&#8217;t like the terms, find another card or don&#8217;t sign up.</p>
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		<title>By: StephaniePTY</title>
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		<dc:creator>StephaniePTY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 20:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure regulation is the answer here, though. I mean, if they&#039;re going to use the age of 21, let&#039;s use the obvious comparison: alcohol. Does the drinking age of 21 make young people more responsible about alcohol? Doesn&#039;t seem to. This regulation seems to be attacked a symptom, rather than the problem.

I wrote about this on my own site (just, like, 2 seconds ago!), but I&#039;ll summerize here: we need to focus on things that actually work, instead of trying to regulate our way out of this problem. One thing that I&#039;ve seen work really well is colleges that ban credit card companies from soliciting on their campuses. My college did it, and most of my friends didn&#039;t even get credit cards, let alone abuse them. Will they be more responsible if they get a credit card later on in life? I hope so. I think it needs to be a joint effort though - banning credit card companies from campus, and teaching money management skills to the student body at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure regulation is the answer here, though. I mean, if they&#8217;re going to use the age of 21, let&#8217;s use the obvious comparison: alcohol. Does the drinking age of 21 make young people more responsible about alcohol? Doesn&#8217;t seem to. This regulation seems to be attacked a symptom, rather than the problem.</p>
<p>I wrote about this on my own site (just, like, 2 seconds ago!), but I&#8217;ll summerize here: we need to focus on things that actually work, instead of trying to regulate our way out of this problem. One thing that I&#8217;ve seen work really well is colleges that ban credit card companies from soliciting on their campuses. My college did it, and most of my friends didn&#8217;t even get credit cards, let alone abuse them. Will they be more responsible if they get a credit card later on in life? I hope so. I think it needs to be a joint effort though &#8211; banning credit card companies from campus, and teaching money management skills to the student body at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: hoosierbee</title>
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		<dc:creator>hoosierbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 19:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe I read an article about one of my CC providers- if this passed they would have to cut way back on the amount of credit they issued and # of cards. Their benefits weren&#039;t great anyway, so it looks like I need to close them before they close me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe I read an article about one of my CC providers- if this passed they would have to cut way back on the amount of credit they issued and # of cards. Their benefits weren&#8217;t great anyway, so it looks like I need to close them before they close me!</p>
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		<title>By: Garage Sales</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garage Sales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 18:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be interesting in the long run how this pans out. Hopefully for the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be interesting in the long run how this pans out. Hopefully for the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 17:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There used to be usury laws in this country to protect people from the ridiculously high interest rates on credit cards.  Those have been repealed thanks to the lobbying efforts of the industry.  Credit cards have been making money hand over fist extending credit in an unsustainable way to people who have no hope of paying it back.  They are paying for this now.

I applaud all of you for being responsible with credit.  I&#039;m sure most of you come from stable backgrounds and good educations.  I don&#039;t carry a balance on my cards either.  You have to understand that many people with credit issues have not had the same access to consumer education that you have had.  I&#039;m all for rules that help to protect consumers from the really odious practices of the industry.  If anything, this bill does not go far enough.

As far as credit card companies cutting back on &quot;goodies&quot;, this is all bluster.  They want to keep all of you as customers as replacing you costs them a ton of money and there is too much competition out there for your business.  If your rewards get cut back, cancel your card.  You will take a hit on your credit score, but it&#039;s only temporary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There used to be usury laws in this country to protect people from the ridiculously high interest rates on credit cards.  Those have been repealed thanks to the lobbying efforts of the industry.  Credit cards have been making money hand over fist extending credit in an unsustainable way to people who have no hope of paying it back.  They are paying for this now.</p>
<p>I applaud all of you for being responsible with credit.  I&#8217;m sure most of you come from stable backgrounds and good educations.  I don&#8217;t carry a balance on my cards either.  You have to understand that many people with credit issues have not had the same access to consumer education that you have had.  I&#8217;m all for rules that help to protect consumers from the really odious practices of the industry.  If anything, this bill does not go far enough.</p>
<p>As far as credit card companies cutting back on &#8220;goodies&#8221;, this is all bluster.  They want to keep all of you as customers as replacing you costs them a ton of money and there is too much competition out there for your business.  If your rewards get cut back, cancel your card.  You will take a hit on your credit score, but it&#8217;s only temporary.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 14:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First I wanted to correct the person who said they thought the US had the most free market in the world. In 2008, the US was ranked 8th most free economy and I would put a lot of money on the US dropping significantly for the 2009 rankings (Reference - Fraser Institute). 

Secondly, the 21 year old requirement is absurd. If society is going to make 18 the legal age of adulthood then every 18 year old should have the same rights as any other adult. I opened my first credit card at 18 and now 5 years later I have an excellent credit rating in the high 700s. Credit cards have also been an invaluable tool to improve liquidity issues that many young adults have entering the &quot;real world&quot;.

I agree that some of the credit card company practices were bad but using the government to try to solve the problem is simply the wrong approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I wanted to correct the person who said they thought the US had the most free market in the world. In 2008, the US was ranked 8th most free economy and I would put a lot of money on the US dropping significantly for the 2009 rankings (Reference &#8211; Fraser Institute). </p>
<p>Secondly, the 21 year old requirement is absurd. If society is going to make 18 the legal age of adulthood then every 18 year old should have the same rights as any other adult. I opened my first credit card at 18 and now 5 years later I have an excellent credit rating in the high 700s. Credit cards have also been an invaluable tool to improve liquidity issues that many young adults have entering the &#8220;real world&#8221;.</p>
<p>I agree that some of the credit card company practices were bad but using the government to try to solve the problem is simply the wrong approach.</p>
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		<title>By: ataylor222</title>
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		<dc:creator>ataylor222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 12:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad to see that it will be harder to issue under 21 cards. They are at such a vulernable age for not understanding what a credit card really is.

I do not think that the bill is perfect but I think it is showing some responsibility for protecting our young people when parents are not teaching their children about money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad to see that it will be harder to issue under 21 cards. They are at such a vulernable age for not understanding what a credit card really is.</p>
<p>I do not think that the bill is perfect but I think it is showing some responsibility for protecting our young people when parents are not teaching their children about money.</p>
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		<title>By: labelcd6</title>
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		<dc:creator>labelcd6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 12:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Normally, I am for as little government regulation as possible.  If people want to bury themselves in credit card debt, let them.

However, the problem is that people&#039;s poor choices in terms of credit card debt have negatively affected the entire nation because politicians are swayed by populist appeal.  

If we lived in a truly capitalist country, one in which no companies were &quot;too big to fail,&quot; one in which responsible individuals were not expected to bail out irresponsible individuals, then I would be opposed to credit card regulation.  However, the United States is not that type of country anymore.  Perhaps it never was.  

Get used to this type of thing because it&#039;s only going to become more common.  We are not individuals in little row boats, merrily making our way upstream.  We are shackled together, for better or for worse, with some of us (responsible people) making up for the laziness of others. 

Is this truly a free market?  No.  Of course it&#039;s not.  Is it the &quot;most free&quot; market in the world.  I&#039;d say so.  

In other words, I&#039;m all for the government regulating the madness of credit card debt, the PayDay Loan for the middle class.

P.S. - I have no credit card debt, don&#039;t use them, and never will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Normally, I am for as little government regulation as possible.  If people want to bury themselves in credit card debt, let them.</p>
<p>However, the problem is that people&#8217;s poor choices in terms of credit card debt have negatively affected the entire nation because politicians are swayed by populist appeal.  </p>
<p>If we lived in a truly capitalist country, one in which no companies were &#8220;too big to fail,&#8221; one in which responsible individuals were not expected to bail out irresponsible individuals, then I would be opposed to credit card regulation.  However, the United States is not that type of country anymore.  Perhaps it never was.  </p>
<p>Get used to this type of thing because it&#8217;s only going to become more common.  We are not individuals in little row boats, merrily making our way upstream.  We are shackled together, for better or for worse, with some of us (responsible people) making up for the laziness of others. </p>
<p>Is this truly a free market?  No.  Of course it&#8217;s not.  Is it the &#8220;most free&#8221; market in the world.  I&#8217;d say so.  </p>
<p>In other words, I&#8217;m all for the government regulating the madness of credit card debt, the PayDay Loan for the middle class.</p>
<p>P.S. &#8211; I have no credit card debt, don&#8217;t use them, and never will.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 12:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, but some things were a little too much. Double cycle billing? It&#039;s like unions, when employers took advantage of workers, they formed unions. Now the pendulum is swinging the other way with powerful unions watching the employers crumble under the weight of their group negotiated agreements. It will all work out in the end, it&#039;s just a convenient time to slam on credit card companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, but some things were a little too much. Double cycle billing? It&#8217;s like unions, when employers took advantage of workers, they formed unions. Now the pendulum is swinging the other way with powerful unions watching the employers crumble under the weight of their group negotiated agreements. It will all work out in the end, it&#8217;s just a convenient time to slam on credit card companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 12:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s one of those political issues that very few politicians are willing to vote against, I saw a map and most of the votes against were in states where credit card companies call home (where many jobs are at credit card companies).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s one of those political issues that very few politicians are willing to vote against, I saw a map and most of the votes against were in states where credit card companies call home (where many jobs are at credit card companies).</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 07:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems a lot of people are doubtful, but I personally applaud the move. I didn&#039;t think it would receive such overwhelming support though. 

I&#039;ll be the first to admit that this bill is far from perfect (the 21 thing is entirely disagreeable with me) but it&#039;s a step in the right direction to me. Call me an optimist I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems a lot of people are doubtful, but I personally applaud the move. I didn&#8217;t think it would receive such overwhelming support though. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be the first to admit that this bill is far from perfect (the 21 thing is entirely disagreeable with me) but it&#8217;s a step in the right direction to me. Call me an optimist I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 06:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of you don&#039;t seem to understand that a company that makes profits is a company that both offers more services and employs more people. 

Ask yourself why companies are being blamed for the reckless decision of some individuals? Credit card companies don&#039;t do anything that they don&#039;t warn you about when you apply for your credit card. It blows my mind that people are rejoicing at companies being punished for offering a service that is clearly in demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of you don&#8217;t seem to understand that a company that makes profits is a company that both offers more services and employs more people. </p>
<p>Ask yourself why companies are being blamed for the reckless decision of some individuals? Credit card companies don&#8217;t do anything that they don&#8217;t warn you about when you apply for your credit card. It blows my mind that people are rejoicing at companies being punished for offering a service that is clearly in demand.</p>
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		<title>By: Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 06:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time for those overspending people to change their habits on money. Anyway I believe banks will do something on this to continue their profitable business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time for those overspending people to change their habits on money. Anyway I believe banks will do something on this to continue their profitable business.</p>
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