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		<title>By: Glenn R.</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/credit-karma-review.html/comment-page-1#comment-330760</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the answer that says that Experian is a bunch of &quot;bastards&quot;-- amen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the answer that says that Experian is a bunch of &#8220;bastards&#8221;&#8211; amen</p>
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		<title>By: Sally</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/credit-karma-review.html/comment-page-1#comment-329504</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Nobody who knows their rear from a hole in the ground thinks freecreditreport.com is actually free.  Why?
  a)It&#039;s on TV and says &quot;free&quot; over and over and 
    over.  There&#039;s your first clue.  Real &quot;free&quot; 
    things don&#039;t require arm twisting and 
    repetitive jingles to get their point across.
  b)It&#039;s run by Experian and Experian is 
    comprised wholly by soulless bastards.

2)This article is for something completely different, with nary a TV jingle repeating &quot;free&quot; over and over again.

3)As far as I&#039;ve seen, this site has never pimped freecreditreport.com without warning you that there&#039;s a fee attached if you don&#039;t cancel during the free trial.

4)READ when you agree to things ESPECIALLY on the Internet.  Good God, man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Nobody who knows their rear from a hole in the ground thinks freecreditreport.com is actually free.  Why?<br />
  a)It&#8217;s on TV and says &#8220;free&#8221; over and over and<br />
    over.  There&#8217;s your first clue.  Real &#8220;free&#8221;<br />
    things don&#8217;t require arm twisting and<br />
    repetitive jingles to get their point across.<br />
  b)It&#8217;s run by Experian and Experian is<br />
    comprised wholly by soulless bastards.</p>
<p>2)This article is for something completely different, with nary a TV jingle repeating &#8220;free&#8221; over and over again.</p>
<p>3)As far as I&#8217;ve seen, this site has never pimped freecreditreport.com without warning you that there&#8217;s a fee attached if you don&#8217;t cancel during the free trial.</p>
<p>4)READ when you agree to things ESPECIALLY on the Internet.  Good God, man.</p>
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		<title>By: Iras</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/credit-karma-review.html/comment-page-1#comment-329415</link>
		<dc:creator>Iras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that I was tricked by free credit report to try a free service that they later charged to my credit card I will cancel my credit card for this reason and I will never trust your organization again .Trickery is the name of the game and your credit services are just like all the other money making scams to trick unsuspecting consumers out of their hard earned money no shortage of takers in this area. I hope God blesses people who exploit poor Americans out of their nickels and dimes with long life long enough for someone to nickel and dime them ,P.S. keep the 31.00 dollars apparently FREE CREDIT REPORT.COM needed it more than my children and I.                              sencerly il grayson TX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that I was tricked by free credit report to try a free service that they later charged to my credit card I will cancel my credit card for this reason and I will never trust your organization again .Trickery is the name of the game and your credit services are just like all the other money making scams to trick unsuspecting consumers out of their hard earned money no shortage of takers in this area. I hope God blesses people who exploit poor Americans out of their nickels and dimes with long life long enough for someone to nickel and dime them ,P.S. keep the 31.00 dollars apparently FREE CREDIT REPORT.COM needed it more than my children and I.                              sencerly il grayson TX</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/credit-karma-review.html/comment-page-1#comment-329293</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The score CreditKarma gave me was 747.  My real score from all three credit agencies is 801/807/797.  So they are way off, but maybe that happens at the higherend of the scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The score CreditKarma gave me was 747.  My real score from all three credit agencies is 801/807/797.  So they are way off, but maybe that happens at the higherend of the scale.</p>
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		<title>By: Duke</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/credit-karma-review.html/comment-page-1#comment-310237</link>
		<dc:creator>Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Checked my score on Credit Karma is says 695. Purchased my TransUnion FICO score and it is 771. A big difference in the score.  Thank goodness the FICO score is the real deal.  I do like using Credit Karma. An increase in the CK score will lead me to assume my TU FICO score has rose without purchasing it. Maybe the CK score is just playing catchup if it increases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Checked my score on Credit Karma is says 695. Purchased my TransUnion FICO score and it is 771. A big difference in the score.  Thank goodness the FICO score is the real deal.  I do like using Credit Karma. An increase in the CK score will lead me to assume my TU FICO score has rose without purchasing it. Maybe the CK score is just playing catchup if it increases.</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Works for my purposes :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Works for my purposes <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Damon Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damon Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you ask me the entire fico thing is a bit of a sham.  Here you have this private company with some secret formula basically wielding an enormous amount of power over everyone.  At least the credit formula for arriving at your score should be simple and straight forward.  

 I don&#039;t agree with the concept of an arbitrary score in the first place.  You should have just a credit report. If you want a loan, an actual human being should look at your report and decide based on your actual history, ie facts, whether or not they feel you are a good credit risk.  A score is just a way for them to say, oh, I am sorry because your score is only 680 you don&#039;t get the good rate.  

With this scoring system, you can pay all of your bills on time, never have an issue and still not have a very good score.  What if you are moving along fine, and then one day, your credit cards drop your credit limit to your balance that you owe.  Happening to people all over the country for no other reason than the creditor is contracting lines of credit.  All of the sudden you can go from 750 down to 650 and it is something that you have no control over.

If there was no &quot;Score&quot; well then you would have to have an actual human (remember when corporations had Humans do things)look at your report, and they might have a question.  Everything looks real good except please explain why you maxed out all of your credit cards.  Oh, I didn&#039;t I actually carried fairly small balances on them but last month a few of my creditors lowered my credit limit because of the financial crisis.  Oh, ok that makes sense, here is your loan.  

This entire secret score thing is bogus.

Just my two cents, anyone else agree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you ask me the entire fico thing is a bit of a sham.  Here you have this private company with some secret formula basically wielding an enormous amount of power over everyone.  At least the credit formula for arriving at your score should be simple and straight forward.  </p>
<p> I don&#8217;t agree with the concept of an arbitrary score in the first place.  You should have just a credit report. If you want a loan, an actual human being should look at your report and decide based on your actual history, ie facts, whether or not they feel you are a good credit risk.  A score is just a way for them to say, oh, I am sorry because your score is only 680 you don&#8217;t get the good rate.  </p>
<p>With this scoring system, you can pay all of your bills on time, never have an issue and still not have a very good score.  What if you are moving along fine, and then one day, your credit cards drop your credit limit to your balance that you owe.  Happening to people all over the country for no other reason than the creditor is contracting lines of credit.  All of the sudden you can go from 750 down to 650 and it is something that you have no control over.</p>
<p>If there was no &#8220;Score&#8221; well then you would have to have an actual human (remember when corporations had Humans do things)look at your report, and they might have a question.  Everything looks real good except please explain why you maxed out all of your credit cards.  Oh, I didn&#8217;t I actually carried fairly small balances on them but last month a few of my creditors lowered my credit limit because of the financial crisis.  Oh, ok that makes sense, here is your loan.  </p>
<p>This entire secret score thing is bogus.</p>
<p>Just my two cents, anyone else agree?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/credit-karma-review.html/comment-page-1#comment-308682</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a danger in using a score that really isn&#039;t used by any lenders and I think you described it right there. Dropping just a point for an inquiry and a new account? I have NEVER heard of that with FICO. It should drop a lot more. 

So now a consumer like yourself walks away and can easily think, wow, I should apply for new cards all the time. Just a 1 point hit?

I just have experienced a lot of crazy volatility with this score. For example, it does not properly take into account no-preset spending cards so your score drops and that report card says your maxed out when you really are not. (it was simply the score looking at your high balance as your credit limit instead of looking to see it was an &quot;OPEN&quot; card and that it should not be used in utilization) which my FICO score properly deduced.

Then I have had instances where my score is higher that friends who have longer histories, with better characteristics, according to FICO!

Then there was the time I looked at my &quot;Credit Snapshot&quot; and it stated I should pay my bills on time more often, when I never paid my bills late ever! 

Granted, Transunion is probably feeding this information to CreditKarma, my point just is that there is a danger that this product can cause more confusion when it&#039;s not using a stable and commonly used score. It&#039;s a great offering I just don&#039;t trust the score.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a danger in using a score that really isn&#8217;t used by any lenders and I think you described it right there. Dropping just a point for an inquiry and a new account? I have NEVER heard of that with FICO. It should drop a lot more. </p>
<p>So now a consumer like yourself walks away and can easily think, wow, I should apply for new cards all the time. Just a 1 point hit?</p>
<p>I just have experienced a lot of crazy volatility with this score. For example, it does not properly take into account no-preset spending cards so your score drops and that report card says your maxed out when you really are not. (it was simply the score looking at your high balance as your credit limit instead of looking to see it was an &#8220;OPEN&#8221; card and that it should not be used in utilization) which my FICO score properly deduced.</p>
<p>Then I have had instances where my score is higher that friends who have longer histories, with better characteristics, according to FICO!</p>
<p>Then there was the time I looked at my &#8220;Credit Snapshot&#8221; and it stated I should pay my bills on time more often, when I never paid my bills late ever! </p>
<p>Granted, Transunion is probably feeding this information to CreditKarma, my point just is that there is a danger that this product can cause more confusion when it&#8217;s not using a stable and commonly used score. It&#8217;s a great offering I just don&#8217;t trust the score.</p>
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		<title>By: Flexo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flexo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like CreditKarma, even more now that they&#039;re using a real credit score rather than an estimation (even if it isn&#039;t FICO). I check every few weeks, and even used it to see the effect of adding a applying for and accepting a new credit card -- my score dropped by one point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like CreditKarma, even more now that they&#8217;re using a real credit score rather than an estimation (even if it isn&#8217;t FICO). I check every few weeks, and even used it to see the effect of adding a applying for and accepting a new credit card &#8212; my score dropped by one point.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/credit-karma-review.html/comment-page-1#comment-308640</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, none of these consumer services do. They are soft pulls that do not effect the score at all and are not visible to creditors. The prompt is permission so that CreditKarma is allowed to go out and get sensitive information from Transunion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, none of these consumer services do. They are soft pulls that do not effect the score at all and are not visible to creditors. The prompt is permission so that CreditKarma is allowed to go out and get sensitive information from Transunion.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Jabs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it affect your credit score negatively when you &quot;update your score&quot; on Credit Karma?

Wondering because of the prompt you receive when updating...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it affect your credit score negatively when you &#8220;update your score&#8221; on Credit Karma?</p>
<p>Wondering because of the prompt you receive when updating&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it just seemed a bit high to me, not that it&#039;s a bad thing...   :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it just seemed a bit high to me, not that it&#8217;s a bad thing&#8230;   <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if I can trust that the CK score is within around 10 points of the FICO score, then I&#039;m in good shape. I guess I&#039;d like a larger sample set to compare to though. Or, I could just get my FICO score and compare them myself. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if I can trust that the CK score is within around 10 points of the FICO score, then I&#8217;m in good shape. I guess I&#8217;d like a larger sample set to compare to though. Or, I could just get my FICO score and compare them myself. <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s technically the same scale - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/what-is-a-good-credit-score.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What&#039;s a Good Credit Score?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s technically the same scale &#8211; <a href="http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/what-is-a-good-credit-score.html" rel="nofollow">What&#8217;s a Good Credit Score?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, what&#039;s a good score on Credit Karma?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what&#8217;s a good score on Credit Karma?</p>
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