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Deducting Capital Losses of Stock
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Yesterday I wrote about the wash rule and donating stock, today I want to briefly discuss what you do in the case where you losses exceed your gains. You typically use Schedule D to record your capital gains and losses and in the event of a net loss, you are permitted to deduct up to $3,000 of that loss from your ordinary income this year. If you have losses in excess of $3,000, you can carry those forward based on a very straight forward schedule outlined in Publication 550.
If you take the time to read 550, it’s very long, you will quickly learn that treating the losses is actually quite simple. First, any amount in excess of the annual $3,000 limit can be pushed to the next year indefinitely and treated as though the loss were incurred that year. Second, the status of the loss will carry forward. A long term capital loss that is carried to the next year will be treated as a long term capital loss, this means it will be used to reduce long term capital gains before short term capital gains and before ordinary income. There are additional rules and conditions in the event the loss is greater than your ordinary income but you’ll have to use the worksheet to figure that all out.
In the event the stock becomes worthless, it’s treated slightly differently but not much differently. First, they treat it as though you sold the stock in the very last day of the year (this is used to figure whether it’s a short or long term capital loss). On Schedule D you have to mark the stock as worthless and keep records for at least 7 years. More on this in a FAQ answer on the IRS website.
So, if you made some bad decisions and the net effect was a drop in your assets, you can reduce your income by up to $3,000 and push the remainder to next year. Hopefully things work out better next year!
(Despite putting stock in the title, I believe these rules apply for any loss of a capital asset. Warning, your home and your car are not considered capital assets, they are considered personal-use assets by the IRS according to their website)
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You say that “A long term capital loss that is carried to the next year will be treated as a long term capital loss….” What happens to short term capital losses? Can they be used to offset capital gains in the year they are sold? Can they be carried over to the next year? I haven’t been able to find this information on the IRS site. Does anyone know?
Sorry for not being clearer, short term capital gains are passed along and treated as short term capital gains in the next year as well. This is important because long term capital losses will offset long term capital gains first, then short term capital gains.
The answer to your second question is yes, they offset gains in the year they are sold.
Here’s a tip my millionaire mentor showed me. If you have a good stock you want to keep but has been doing bad this year you: sell your losing stock, take the tax deduction and immediately buy an index fund in the same industry as the stock then wait 31 days and then sell your index fund and buy back the stock. He’s been doing this for years on stocks he trades covered calls on.
Is it possible to take a capital gain loss of $3,000 and also deduct interest from my margin account? I understand the limit of the insterest deduction is the short term capital gains so I’m wondering if I can do both. I have enough long term capital losses this year to end up with a net loss (Long term losess minus short term gains) of $3,000. can I still deduct the interests?
Can I put ny losses from my 401k on my taxes.
I’m afraid you can’t.
I haven’t funded my Roth yet this year, and I was just thinking that if I sold some of my quality stock that is down like everything else, and then moved the money to my Roth, wouldn’t that mean I’d get the loss plus when the stock goes back up I wouldn’t have gains (since Roth is post tax)? Would I still have to wait the 31 days to buy the stock back?
@ James
Unfortunately, you still have to wait. Many people used to do this arguing that the “IRA” was a separate entity. Then IRS issued Rev. Rul. 2008-5 that states you cannot do this. Some people still try since techincally the IRS won’t have a record of the purchase (until you get audited). Proceed at your own risk, but remember that big brother is always watching.
So what if all I have is a short term capital loss?
I lost 35K last year. I deducted 3K and carried forward 32K. This year I made profits of 40K. So, this year my taxable capital gain would be 37K (by just reducing 3K) or 8K (reducing by entire 32K brought forward)?
I believe it would be $8,000, reducing it by the entire $32,000 loss from last year. Check with a tax accountant to be certain.
I’m afraid I didn’t write-off my stock losses the right way from several years ago. I’ve just been writing off a few at time each year. I still have several thousands in losses that occurred from 98-01. Is there a way to still write them off? Can I go ahead and include them all now even though they were bought and sold several years ago? Or, do I need to go back and amend the past years?
You will likely have to amend previous years, I would talk to an experience tax accountant to have that done properly.
I have recently been laid off, and was wondering I have a small amount in that companies 401k, and last year I posted a loss of 3k on Long Term Stock. Can I, this year, cash out my 401k and use that 3000.00 loss from last year to suppliment any taxes? just to give you a figure 5k in 401k. If it is possible how much can I expect to get back?