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		<title>By: interested reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>interested reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the best way to dispose of old meds is to burn them in a fire safe container on your sidewalk outside.

I think that companies like USANA and other &quot;autopay&quot; ordering organizations cause a lot of waste as people get bottle after bottle of vitamins; many people are simply not in a good habit of vitamin taking, and this leads to many bottles in our cupboards that we forget about.

I agree that 5 years for vitamins is probably the limit, but I have some alfalfa that I take periodically that I have to confess I&#039;ve likely had around for 10 years maybe more - it&#039;s hard to know - there was no date on the bottle.

I would smell the vitamins and if the odor is not pleasant or they have discolored or gotten wet or been left in a hot location, then discard them.

To prevent a vitamin overload in your home, study on why you take them, and then get organized in your taking of them - else it is simply a waste of your hard earned money.  In general, people who are eating properly, may only need a small number of vitamins on a regular basis.  

Visit a health food store and get a list of what vitamin is recommended for what &quot;ailment&quot;.  You will fast narrow down the list to what works for you.
Calcium magnesium zinc (s recommended for nearly every adult, as is Vit D (up to 6000 mg/day).  Garlic tabs are great in the winter, along with Cod Liver Oil (Omega 3) to keep away the winter sniffles.  Since taking garlic tabs (odorless) and Cod liver oil gel caps I have seriously not been sick with colds for 5 winters.  Omega 3-6-9 combination works well too, as does Flax Seed OIl.  You can alternate these on different days to use up supplies.  If you have a one-a-day multi-vitamin, alternate these too so you don&#039;t take more than you actually need (multi&#039;s often have Vitamin A and E and calc-mag.  Figure out what the RDI is for each vitamin, study your labels, and measure out your vitamins in an organized fashion.  It does not work to have a mess of vitamins on your counter without some kind of chart and undestanding of how to take them.  
List all the vitamins you have, write down why you are taking it so you understand why, write down exactly what each tablet contains, find out the Recommended daily intake and then make a list of the daily dosages you would like to take.  Get a good pill organizer that is large enough to handle all the pills you might want to take in a 2 week period.  The best pill organizers have generous holding capacity, and allow 5 daily dosages to be meted out.  This way if you have to take a pill before breakfast it can have it&#039;s own compartment, etc.  It is quite complex to say the least, but some vitamins work best on empty stomach (such as Protein powders), others best taken with food or a meal.  Get familiar with your stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the best way to dispose of old meds is to burn them in a fire safe container on your sidewalk outside.</p>
<p>I think that companies like USANA and other &#8220;autopay&#8221; ordering organizations cause a lot of waste as people get bottle after bottle of vitamins; many people are simply not in a good habit of vitamin taking, and this leads to many bottles in our cupboards that we forget about.</p>
<p>I agree that 5 years for vitamins is probably the limit, but I have some alfalfa that I take periodically that I have to confess I&#8217;ve likely had around for 10 years maybe more &#8211; it&#8217;s hard to know &#8211; there was no date on the bottle.</p>
<p>I would smell the vitamins and if the odor is not pleasant or they have discolored or gotten wet or been left in a hot location, then discard them.</p>
<p>To prevent a vitamin overload in your home, study on why you take them, and then get organized in your taking of them &#8211; else it is simply a waste of your hard earned money.  In general, people who are eating properly, may only need a small number of vitamins on a regular basis.  </p>
<p>Visit a health food store and get a list of what vitamin is recommended for what &#8220;ailment&#8221;.  You will fast narrow down the list to what works for you.<br />
Calcium magnesium zinc (s recommended for nearly every adult, as is Vit D (up to 6000 mg/day).  Garlic tabs are great in the winter, along with Cod Liver Oil (Omega 3) to keep away the winter sniffles.  Since taking garlic tabs (odorless) and Cod liver oil gel caps I have seriously not been sick with colds for 5 winters.  Omega 3-6-9 combination works well too, as does Flax Seed OIl.  You can alternate these on different days to use up supplies.  If you have a one-a-day multi-vitamin, alternate these too so you don&#8217;t take more than you actually need (multi&#8217;s often have Vitamin A and E and calc-mag.  Figure out what the RDI is for each vitamin, study your labels, and measure out your vitamins in an organized fashion.  It does not work to have a mess of vitamins on your counter without some kind of chart and undestanding of how to take them.<br />
List all the vitamins you have, write down why you are taking it so you understand why, write down exactly what each tablet contains, find out the Recommended daily intake and then make a list of the daily dosages you would like to take.  Get a good pill organizer that is large enough to handle all the pills you might want to take in a 2 week period.  The best pill organizers have generous holding capacity, and allow 5 daily dosages to be meted out.  This way if you have to take a pill before breakfast it can have it&#8217;s own compartment, etc.  It is quite complex to say the least, but some vitamins work best on empty stomach (such as Protein powders), others best taken with food or a meal.  Get familiar with your stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 18:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be careful taking expired meds....its not just about lack of efficacy, there are some that become toxic once they pass their expiration date.

Yes, toxic.  Poisonous.  Literally.  Poison.  I&#039;m not kidding.

Now are some drugs perfectly safe to take after expiration date?  Yes.  And if you know the pharmacological makeup of the drugs you&#039;re taking you can make more informed choices.

But remember, there is so much we don&#039;t know.  About the human body and how it works.  About how drugs we&#039;ve created work.  And when you combine the human body and a medical condition we don&#039;t fully understand (because we never do) and a medication or two or three and other unknown variables (that grapefruit you have for breakfast could screw the whole thing up; when you combine all that, its just best guessing based on our limited knowledge.

And all that is usually the very basic circumstances under which people take medication.   

So for all we know, remember that there&#039;s volumes we don&#039;t.  So if we know that its best to take a medication before a particular.date of expiration, its worth sticking to if you can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be careful taking expired meds&#8230;.its not just about lack of efficacy, there are some that become toxic once they pass their expiration date.</p>
<p>Yes, toxic.  Poisonous.  Literally.  Poison.  I&#8217;m not kidding.</p>
<p>Now are some drugs perfectly safe to take after expiration date?  Yes.  And if you know the pharmacological makeup of the drugs you&#8217;re taking you can make more informed choices.</p>
<p>But remember, there is so much we don&#8217;t know.  About the human body and how it works.  About how drugs we&#8217;ve created work.  And when you combine the human body and a medical condition we don&#8217;t fully understand (because we never do) and a medication or two or three and other unknown variables (that grapefruit you have for breakfast could screw the whole thing up; when you combine all that, its just best guessing based on our limited knowledge.</p>
<p>And all that is usually the very basic circumstances under which people take medication.   </p>
<p>So for all we know, remember that there&#8217;s volumes we don&#8217;t.  So if we know that its best to take a medication before a particular.date of expiration, its worth sticking to if you can.</p>
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		<title>By: rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t want to put something in to my body that is harmful to flush !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t want to put something in to my body that is harmful to flush !</p>
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		<title>By: no name</title>
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		<dc:creator>no name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i am sorry to say i know this is a very late reply but why would you throw them away? Animals can always find a way in to your trash and dig them out. Not to mention that they can eat them as well and become ill from them. What may be ok for you and i to take may just kil or really harmand animal. Lets just say that something dug them out of your garbage and you didnt notice. Here comes a child and sees this on the ground. Now i know children should not be picking things off the ground and eating them but there are that do then what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i am sorry to say i know this is a very late reply but why would you throw them away? Animals can always find a way in to your trash and dig them out. Not to mention that they can eat them as well and become ill from them. What may be ok for you and i to take may just kil or really harmand animal. Lets just say that something dug them out of your garbage and you didnt notice. Here comes a child and sees this on the ground. Now i know children should not be picking things off the ground and eating them but there are that do then what?</p>
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		<title>By: justyeravgjen</title>
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		<dc:creator>justyeravgjen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 04:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>our pharmacy program research concluded: no to liquids or antibiotics, tablets probably just less effective, dispose by placing with cat litter or used coffee grounds in a ziploc bag. please inquire locally to donate not needed prescription meds not expired! if a controlled substance, especially marked schedule II (or 2), take to police station for disposal!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>our pharmacy program research concluded: no to liquids or antibiotics, tablets probably just less effective, dispose by placing with cat litter or used coffee grounds in a ziploc bag. please inquire locally to donate not needed prescription meds not expired! if a controlled substance, especially marked schedule II (or 2), take to police station for disposal!</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for the info! I was wondering the same thing. I have some of those womens vitamins that are pre-packaged. They are only a year old, so now I&#039;m not too worried. Thanks :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for the info! I was wondering the same thing. I have some of those womens vitamins that are pre-packaged. They are only a year old, so now I&#8217;m not too worried. Thanks <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I throw things away if they&#039;ve expired although I&#039;ve heard with certain supplements like spirulina they can be effective up to a year after expiration though they do lose some of their power... 

I buy tons of vitamins and did price shopping online yesterday. The best site I found for price and selection is:

allstarhealth.com

they have a 30 day return policy, a low price guarantee and flat rate shipping. I was amazed at how much prices vary from site to site on these items. Also if you use Mypoints.com you can get points for your purchase through them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I throw things away if they&#8217;ve expired although I&#8217;ve heard with certain supplements like spirulina they can be effective up to a year after expiration though they do lose some of their power&#8230; </p>
<p>I buy tons of vitamins and did price shopping online yesterday. The best site I found for price and selection is:</p>
<p>allstarhealth.com</p>
<p>they have a 30 day return policy, a low price guarantee and flat rate shipping. I was amazed at how much prices vary from site to site on these items. Also if you use Mypoints.com you can get points for your purchase through them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 19:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>18 years is a long time, I&#039;d buy new vitamins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>18 years is a long time, I&#8217;d buy new vitamins.</p>
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		<title>By: SSSS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SSSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mom gave me vitamin E for stretch marks(oil form, not capsule) and it had been expired for 18 years....is it still okay to use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mom gave me vitamin E for stretch marks(oil form, not capsule) and it had been expired for 18 years&#8230;.is it still okay to use?</p>
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		<title>By: BrianC</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no problem taking expired OTC meds (I think my Tylenol expired in 2005-heh), but with prescription meds I&#039;m more wary, and wouldn&#039;t take anything over a year out-of-date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem taking expired OTC meds (I think my Tylenol expired in 2005-heh), but with prescription meds I&#8217;m more wary, and wouldn&#8217;t take anything over a year out-of-date.</p>
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		<title>By: Lillie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lillie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent point about the disposable of expired medication since it can be reintroduced into the water system. I make it a practice to monitor any product with an expiration date or “best if used by” label on it and do not question whether it should be used or discarded. My health has priority and there have been too many recalls on products that have been deemed safe without taking any chances on something that I know may be a risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent point about the disposable of expired medication since it can be reintroduced into the water system. I make it a practice to monitor any product with an expiration date or “best if used by” label on it and do not question whether it should be used or discarded. My health has priority and there have been too many recalls on products that have been deemed safe without taking any chances on something that I know may be a risk.</p>
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		<title>By: meds researcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>meds researcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>most thorough shelf life of prescription pills study was US military:found that the wide variety they studied had not lost potency after 20 yrs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>most thorough shelf life of prescription pills study was US military:found that the wide variety they studied had not lost potency after 20 yrs</p>
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		<title>By: zerralde</title>
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		<dc:creator>zerralde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 05:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had no idea most vitamin supplements weren’t regulated, jus both some from vitasource comp, when I notice that the vitamin didn&#039;t have a exp dd, I call them back to aks why..?? one of the manager got upset, but I rather buy my vitamin with exp DD..  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had no idea most vitamin supplements weren’t regulated, jus both some from vitasource comp, when I notice that the vitamin didn&#8217;t have a exp dd, I call them back to aks why..?? one of the manager got upset, but I rather buy my vitamin with exp DD..  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, however when you dump it &lt;strong&gt;directly&lt;/strong&gt; into the water, I&#039;d imagine it&#039;s far worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, however when you dump it <strong>directly</strong> into the water, I&#8217;d imagine it&#8217;s far worse.</p>
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		<title>By: NateUVM</title>
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		<dc:creator>NateUVM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are at least two things worth mentioning here...

A lot of landfills now have barriers that prevent things from leeching into the water supply.  Not always the case, and it isn&#039;t always effective, but an effort is made.

Second, if there were to be leeching, by the time it happens, the hope is that whatever active chemicals are present in the drugs at the time you dispose of them are at that point inert.  

Not to minimize your point, but there are a whole lot of other risky pollutants in landfills than just the expired drugs that might be in them.  If the drugs were to leech through into the water table, there are probably a WHOLE LOT of other things leeching through, too.  In this less-than-desireable case, at least you are containing the contamination to one, more specific locale, which is not the case if everyone just washes their pills down the drain at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are at least two things worth mentioning here&#8230;</p>
<p>A lot of landfills now have barriers that prevent things from leeching into the water supply.  Not always the case, and it isn&#8217;t always effective, but an effort is made.</p>
<p>Second, if there were to be leeching, by the time it happens, the hope is that whatever active chemicals are present in the drugs at the time you dispose of them are at that point inert.  </p>
<p>Not to minimize your point, but there are a whole lot of other risky pollutants in landfills than just the expired drugs that might be in them.  If the drugs were to leech through into the water table, there are probably a WHOLE LOT of other things leeching through, too.  In this less-than-desireable case, at least you are containing the contamination to one, more specific locale, which is not the case if everyone just washes their pills down the drain at home.</p>
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