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		<title>By: Rummy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rummy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 20:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a stingy renter too!  Glad to know I&#039;m not alone.  I pay $715 and that includes parking and electricity.  It&#039;s a small place and not heavily decorated but I don&#039;t care.  It&#039;s just a place to sleep and store stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a stingy renter too!  Glad to know I&#8217;m not alone.  I pay $715 and that includes parking and electricity.  It&#8217;s a small place and not heavily decorated but I don&#8217;t care.  It&#8217;s just a place to sleep and store stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently rented a one bedroom with a den in an apt. complex. When looking in this sunday&#039;s paper i saw an adverstisement for the same apt. in my complex for less money. Should i confront the landlord and ask why i am paying more? I HAVE A LEASE. WHAT SHOULD I DO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently rented a one bedroom with a den in an apt. complex. When looking in this sunday&#8217;s paper i saw an adverstisement for the same apt. in my complex for less money. Should i confront the landlord and ask why i am paying more? I HAVE A LEASE. WHAT SHOULD I DO.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 100% -- Dont overpay for rent. I have a question though.

Is it better to rent an apartment or buy a manufactured home? I found a good location where they are selling a 2 bedroom manufactured home for $170K. The mortgage calculator says, for a no downpayment for 30 years at 6.12% interest, I pay $1,032.39 monthly. 

Today, Im renting a studio at $1,000 a month. So I thought would the mobile home be better? I mean in 3 years, I would have paid out 36,000 (more if the rent goes up).  That money goes away. But I buy that mobile home, I can sell it in 3 years for a super discounted deal, say, 80,000. I would not be only be able to regain the 36,000 but also would have made money.

Will this approach really work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100% &#8212; Dont overpay for rent. I have a question though.</p>
<p>Is it better to rent an apartment or buy a manufactured home? I found a good location where they are selling a 2 bedroom manufactured home for $170K. The mortgage calculator says, for a no downpayment for 30 years at 6.12% interest, I pay $1,032.39 monthly. </p>
<p>Today, Im renting a studio at $1,000 a month. So I thought would the mobile home be better? I mean in 3 years, I would have paid out 36,000 (more if the rent goes up).  That money goes away. But I buy that mobile home, I can sell it in 3 years for a super discounted deal, say, 80,000. I would not be only be able to regain the 36,000 but also would have made money.</p>
<p>Will this approach really work?</p>
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		<title>By: cad</title>
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		<dc:creator>cad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 15:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, it&#039;s a choice between diversified investing in the stock market, which I do, and investing in real estate, which I don&#039;t do. I like knowing that my invested money is semi-liquid instead of being tied up in the home I live in, which I&#039;d have to sell in order to get at the funds. My rent is probably what you&#039;d consider high, but all utilities, repairs, package deliveries, security, trash pickup and recycling, gardening, painting, pool maintenance, etc. are included/done for me at no extra fee or trouble. (My least favorite things are choosing contractors and repairpeople, waiting around for them, and paying them!) My renter&#039;s insurance is under $200/year. I enjoy watching my investments grow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, it&#8217;s a choice between diversified investing in the stock market, which I do, and investing in real estate, which I don&#8217;t do. I like knowing that my invested money is semi-liquid instead of being tied up in the home I live in, which I&#8217;d have to sell in order to get at the funds. My rent is probably what you&#8217;d consider high, but all utilities, repairs, package deliveries, security, trash pickup and recycling, gardening, painting, pool maintenance, etc. are included/done for me at no extra fee or trouble. (My least favorite things are choosing contractors and repairpeople, waiting around for them, and paying them!) My renter&#8217;s insurance is under $200/year. I enjoy watching my investments grow.</p>
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		<title>By: Disgruntled</title>
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		<dc:creator>Disgruntled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 05:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of people don&#039;t have the money for anything better than &quot;el cheapo&quot; apartments.

I have a dream, that one day, the ability of our children to live in decent neighborhoods will be based not on the content of their pocketbook, but on the content of their character.

Several years ago I thought I was clever because I found a great deal in an obscure neighborhood with good value.  (Cheap rent but without the usual neighborhood negatives.)

But now the gangbangers and illegal aliens are moving in because they&#039;re getting displaced from gentrifying neighborhoods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of people don&#8217;t have the money for anything better than &#8220;el cheapo&#8221; apartments.</p>
<p>I have a dream, that one day, the ability of our children to live in decent neighborhoods will be based not on the content of their pocketbook, but on the content of their character.</p>
<p>Several years ago I thought I was clever because I found a great deal in an obscure neighborhood with good value.  (Cheap rent but without the usual neighborhood negatives.)</p>
<p>But now the gangbangers and illegal aliens are moving in because they&#8217;re getting displaced from gentrifying neighborhoods.</p>
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		<title>By: Master Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Master Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 04:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flexo has a good point. I pay almost $800 in rent for a well maintained unit, high fence, and security here in Denver. Some &quot;el cheapo&quot; apartments very close are complete disasters but hundreds less a month. No way would I consider trying to save a few hundred dollars in exchange for noise, poor parking, crime, and otherwise unbearable conditions. But paying $900...$1000...$more would be throwing money out.

invest4life - In some cases renting is throwing money out. But I am the front page photo of renting is better sometimes. I was working a miserable tech job in Dallas hating every minute. Rather than buying a home and putting down the 20% downpayment, I continued to rent. A fantastic opportunity in Denver opened offering nearly double salary but I had to act fast. I left Dallas June 3rd, instructed to report to work June 5th.....my apartment lease expired on June 4th!! Relocation was a breeze with me jumping into the car and leaving that miserable place behind. No house to sell, paperwork to deal with, just walked away and forgot all about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flexo has a good point. I pay almost $800 in rent for a well maintained unit, high fence, and security here in Denver. Some &#8220;el cheapo&#8221; apartments very close are complete disasters but hundreds less a month. No way would I consider trying to save a few hundred dollars in exchange for noise, poor parking, crime, and otherwise unbearable conditions. But paying $900&#8230;$1000&#8230;$more would be throwing money out.</p>
<p>invest4life &#8211; In some cases renting is throwing money out. But I am the front page photo of renting is better sometimes. I was working a miserable tech job in Dallas hating every minute. Rather than buying a home and putting down the 20% downpayment, I continued to rent. A fantastic opportunity in Denver opened offering nearly double salary but I had to act fast. I left Dallas June 3rd, instructed to report to work June 5th&#8230;..my apartment lease expired on June 4th!! Relocation was a breeze with me jumping into the car and leaving that miserable place behind. No house to sell, paperwork to deal with, just walked away and forgot all about it.</p>
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		<title>By: invest4life</title>
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		<dc:creator>invest4life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 00:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you that renting is temporary and the real test is purchasing a home.  Renting to me is throwing your money into a black hole, the return you get is a roof over your head for a month (valuable no doubt).  Compared to buying a home, which is an asset you will possess for as long as you live or until you sell.  Real estate is one of the most sound investments there is (it may not appreciate as much as say a killer stock).  Regardless of how bad the real estate market gets, it can never go to zero!  No one can take your land/space away from you if you own, that cannot be said if you rent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you that renting is temporary and the real test is purchasing a home.  Renting to me is throwing your money into a black hole, the return you get is a roof over your head for a month (valuable no doubt).  Compared to buying a home, which is an asset you will possess for as long as you live or until you sell.  Real estate is one of the most sound investments there is (it may not appreciate as much as say a killer stock).  Regardless of how bad the real estate market gets, it can never go to zero!  No one can take your land/space away from you if you own, that cannot be said if you rent.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 22:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>were you live plays an important role psycholgoically. If you are focused on building wealth for yourself, I believe a nice place to live is essential.

It is the intengible factor which makes the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>were you live plays an important role psycholgoically. If you are focused on building wealth for yourself, I believe a nice place to live is essential.</p>
<p>It is the intengible factor which makes the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Minimum Wagec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minimum Wagec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 20:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a boomer with no hope of buying a home, I long ago resigned myself to being (and viewing myself as) a permanent renter.

This has led me to obsess on finding and keeping the most affordable housing I can find.  (Took me four months of daily pavement-pounding one time.)

Most people don&#039;t know this little tidbit about low-rent housing: A large proportion of low-rent units are occupied NOT by renters with the lowest incomes, but by renters with average incomes who have ferreted (or in some cases networked) out the cheapest deals.  The resulting &quot;mismatch&quot; forces many with the lowest incopmes to pay much higher rents than they should be paying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a boomer with no hope of buying a home, I long ago resigned myself to being (and viewing myself as) a permanent renter.</p>
<p>This has led me to obsess on finding and keeping the most affordable housing I can find.  (Took me four months of daily pavement-pounding one time.)</p>
<p>Most people don&#8217;t know this little tidbit about low-rent housing: A large proportion of low-rent units are occupied NOT by renters with the lowest incomes, but by renters with average incomes who have ferreted (or in some cases networked) out the cheapest deals.  The resulting &#8220;mismatch&#8221; forces many with the lowest incopmes to pay much higher rents than they should be paying.</p>
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		<title>By: MossySF</title>
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		<dc:creator>MossySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 17:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if the more expensive location means you can drop the car and commute? No car payments, no insurance, no gas, no parking fees -- and more time for yourself without the commute. How much of that car savings would you be willing to rollup into the rental cost?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if the more expensive location means you can drop the car and commute? No car payments, no insurance, no gas, no parking fees &#8212; and more time for yourself without the commute. How much of that car savings would you be willing to rollup into the rental cost?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon @ Money Mythos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon @ Money Mythos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 15:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that spending too much on rent can be like a punch to the gut. When my wife and I moved from the suburbs of Philadelphia to the suburbs of Boston, we knew we would be spending more. We paid $930 for a decent sized one bedroom in Philly. 

Equal sized one bedroom apartments in Boston&#039;s North Shore ran nearly $1400! So instead, we started looking at multi-family houses which were rented out. We ended up with a decent sized two-bedroom with a good choice of amenities for $1200.

However I think it&#039;s important you consider your apartment more than just a temporary space. Most people rent for at least one or two years, so why not spend some pocket change decorating and making the space comfortable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that spending too much on rent can be like a punch to the gut. When my wife and I moved from the suburbs of Philadelphia to the suburbs of Boston, we knew we would be spending more. We paid $930 for a decent sized one bedroom in Philly. </p>
<p>Equal sized one bedroom apartments in Boston&#8217;s North Shore ran nearly $1400! So instead, we started looking at multi-family houses which were rented out. We ended up with a decent sized two-bedroom with a good choice of amenities for $1200.</p>
<p>However I think it&#8217;s important you consider your apartment more than just a temporary space. Most people rent for at least one or two years, so why not spend some pocket change decorating and making the space comfortable.</p>
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		<title>By: Blaine Moore (First Time Home Owner)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blaine Moore (First Time Home Owner)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 14:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not have any interest in having a roommate after college.  I wanted something for myself.  I found a decent apartment (but not great) in a good area for a good price.  When my girlfriend moved in, expenses were way down, but the guy below me had a roommate that smoke way more than he did and our health suffered.

The landlord never raised my rent; he was just happy to have somebody that paid on time.  

We found a house, though, and were remarking this morning how much healthier we both were over the past year, despite the fact that my wife spends all day every day cooped up in a small room with 100 other people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not have any interest in having a roommate after college.  I wanted something for myself.  I found a decent apartment (but not great) in a good area for a good price.  When my girlfriend moved in, expenses were way down, but the guy below me had a roommate that smoke way more than he did and our health suffered.</p>
<p>The landlord never raised my rent; he was just happy to have somebody that paid on time.  </p>
<p>We found a house, though, and were remarking this morning how much healthier we both were over the past year, despite the fact that my wife spends all day every day cooped up in a small room with 100 other people.</p>
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		<title>By: LAMoneyGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>LAMoneyGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 14:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you, I view rent as an expense to be reduced.  However, that view is within the perspective of saving to buy so that I can keep my mortgage cost low, another item that I view as an expense to be reduced.  From a lifestyle point of view, many do not want to make short term sacrifices for longer term gain.  For some young people, the idea of buying is pretty far fetched.  Either the prospect of spending that much is daunting, or they don&#039;t want to be tied down to a piece of property.  In either case, they want to live a certian lifestyle today, and a few hundred buck a month more in rent allows them to do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you, I view rent as an expense to be reduced.  However, that view is within the perspective of saving to buy so that I can keep my mortgage cost low, another item that I view as an expense to be reduced.  From a lifestyle point of view, many do not want to make short term sacrifices for longer term gain.  For some young people, the idea of buying is pretty far fetched.  Either the prospect of spending that much is daunting, or they don&#8217;t want to be tied down to a piece of property.  In either case, they want to live a certian lifestyle today, and a few hundred buck a month more in rent allows them to do this.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 14:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back when we lived just outside of Baltimore, my family lived in the same relatively simple apartment for almost 20 years. Each time a rent increase would come along, we&#039;d ask for the increase to be bumped down, and we got it. By the time we finally moved, there were families in the same building as us paying twice the rent for less apartment.

Moving to a suburb of DC, we decided to sacrifice price (rent for an equivalent apartment here is 50% higher) for proximity to work (5 minutes each way instead of the original 90 minutes from Baltimore) and a few extra amenities (in-apartment washer and dryer, ceiling fans, stuff that doesn&#039;t break all the time). But our apartment was still on the cheaper side compared to most others in the area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back when we lived just outside of Baltimore, my family lived in the same relatively simple apartment for almost 20 years. Each time a rent increase would come along, we&#8217;d ask for the increase to be bumped down, and we got it. By the time we finally moved, there were families in the same building as us paying twice the rent for less apartment.</p>
<p>Moving to a suburb of DC, we decided to sacrifice price (rent for an equivalent apartment here is 50% higher) for proximity to work (5 minutes each way instead of the original 90 minutes from Baltimore) and a few extra amenities (in-apartment washer and dryer, ceiling fans, stuff that doesn&#8217;t break all the time). But our apartment was still on the cheaper side compared to most others in the area.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 13:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Renting all the way.  At some point I&#039;ll buy a home, but not now when I&#039;m only in my 20&#039;s.  Right now, the money I save by renting cheaply is greater than the equity I could ever build in buying a decent home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renting all the way.  At some point I&#8217;ll buy a home, but not now when I&#8217;m only in my 20&#8217;s.  Right now, the money I save by renting cheaply is greater than the equity I could ever build in buying a decent home.</p>
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