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		<title>By: Damon Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damon Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 07:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Post Jim.  I didn&#039;t realize that quicken online had dropped the 3 dollar monthly fee.  I use Quickbooks myself but for most of my clients I recommend Quicken online.  Unless you need the extra functions, there is no point dropping $300 dollars for quickbooks, if you just need basic account tracking and budgeting, free is always in the budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Post Jim.  I didn&#8217;t realize that quicken online had dropped the 3 dollar monthly fee.  I use Quickbooks myself but for most of my clients I recommend Quicken online.  Unless you need the extra functions, there is no point dropping $300 dollars for quickbooks, if you just need basic account tracking and budgeting, free is always in the budget.</p>
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		<title>By: Chelsea with Quicken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chelsea with Quicken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Caitlin,

This is Chelsea from Quicken Online. Just wanted to clarify, you can&#039;t import your files into Quicken Online. What we do offer is automatic syncing with more than 8500 financial institutions - and when you do add an account- you&#039;ll get about 3 months of backdated data so you can get helpful financial insights right away. You can export transactions into a spreadsheet for use later if you&#039;d like.

For everyone else, we posted a deep dive on the newly designed Trends feature on the Quicken Blog a few weeks back. If you&#039;re interested in more about how the product works, check this out: http://blog.quicken.intuit.com/2009/05/27/fresh-clean-and-redesigned-quicken-online-trends/

Thanks!

- Chelsea, Quicken Online</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Caitlin,</p>
<p>This is Chelsea from Quicken Online. Just wanted to clarify, you can&#8217;t import your files into Quicken Online. What we do offer is automatic syncing with more than 8500 financial institutions &#8211; and when you do add an account- you&#8217;ll get about 3 months of backdated data so you can get helpful financial insights right away. You can export transactions into a spreadsheet for use later if you&#8217;d like.</p>
<p>For everyone else, we posted a deep dive on the newly designed Trends feature on the Quicken Blog a few weeks back. If you&#8217;re interested in more about how the product works, check this out: <a href="http://blog.quicken.intuit.com/2009/05/27/fresh-clean-and-redesigned-quicken-online-trends/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.quicken.intuit.com/2009/05/27/fresh-clean-and-redesigned-quicken-online-trends/</a></p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>- Chelsea, Quicken Online</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Caitlin Our tool budgetpulse is a manual tool, but we allow users to input their financial bank statements like you have asked for.  We don&#039;t sync with any personal account information reducing any security thefts.  For someone who is more concerned, they may be interested in trying out our tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Caitlin Our tool budgetpulse is a manual tool, but we allow users to input their financial bank statements like you have asked for.  We don&#8217;t sync with any personal account information reducing any security thefts.  For someone who is more concerned, they may be interested in trying out our tool.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/easy-budgeting-for-non-budgeters.html/comment-page-1#comment-308488</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Full Disclosure: BudgetPulse.com is a great manual personal budgeting software where we strive on simplicity and functionality. Users who are scared to sync their personal financial information up can use our tool because we do not sync at all, reducing security concerns. If you are an international user who would like to budget, you can use our tool as well since it is internationally compatible. We focus strictly on budgeting. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

Craig Kessler
Marketing Director at BudgetPulse
craig@budgetpulse.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full Disclosure: BudgetPulse.com is a great manual personal budgeting software where we strive on simplicity and functionality. Users who are scared to sync their personal financial information up can use our tool because we do not sync at all, reducing security concerns. If you are an international user who would like to budget, you can use our tool as well since it is internationally compatible. We focus strictly on budgeting. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.</p>
<p>Craig Kessler<br />
Marketing Director at BudgetPulse<br />
<a href="mailto:craig@budgetpulse.com">craig@budgetpulse.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: jamesdpx</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamesdpx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve used both Mint and Quicken Online. I can&#039;t comment much on Mint because I had an account with them for over a month and they still couldn&#039;t find my checking account - even though I gave them the log-in address and everything - so I could never get an accurate picture of my finances.

Quicken Online found all of my accounts right away and the budgeting tools have been helping, but even they have issues that interfere with my ability to use their service completely. Whenever I put in a paycheck - and I only get paid once a month - and label the deposit as a paycheck, it still won&#039;t recognize it as income. I basically use Quicken Online on my iPhone as a one-stop shop to track my accounts, but I can&#039;t use it accurately as a budgeting tool so I rarely use it at home. I&#039;m contemplating just getting a full version of Quicken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used both Mint and Quicken Online. I can&#8217;t comment much on Mint because I had an account with them for over a month and they still couldn&#8217;t find my checking account &#8211; even though I gave them the log-in address and everything &#8211; so I could never get an accurate picture of my finances.</p>
<p>Quicken Online found all of my accounts right away and the budgeting tools have been helping, but even they have issues that interfere with my ability to use their service completely. Whenever I put in a paycheck &#8211; and I only get paid once a month &#8211; and label the deposit as a paycheck, it still won&#8217;t recognize it as income. I basically use Quicken Online on my iPhone as a one-stop shop to track my accounts, but I can&#8217;t use it accurately as a budgeting tool so I rarely use it at home. I&#8217;m contemplating just getting a full version of Quicken.</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, seriously, don&#039;t these programs/sites have an upload feature?  Every time one is talked about, one of the things that comes up is the potential security risk of giving them your bank login information.  I don&#039;t see why anyone would have to worry about that if they didn&#039;t like the risk, unless they specifically &lt;i&gt;prevent&lt;/i&gt; you from uploading information yourself (as in those files you can download from your bank website - not manually adding in every transaction).

Or do they offer this upload feature, but reviews simply focus more on the ability to give it your bank login information?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, seriously, don&#8217;t these programs/sites have an upload feature?  Every time one is talked about, one of the things that comes up is the potential security risk of giving them your bank login information.  I don&#8217;t see why anyone would have to worry about that if they didn&#8217;t like the risk, unless they specifically <i>prevent</i> you from uploading information yourself (as in those files you can download from your bank website &#8211; not manually adding in every transaction).</p>
<p>Or do they offer this upload feature, but reviews simply focus more on the ability to give it your bank login information?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I just need to adjust the amounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I just need to adjust the amounts.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started with Mint several years ago, but then left it alone.

I like Quicken but think that is because I am used to the Quicken interface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started with Mint several years ago, but then left it alone.</p>
<p>I like Quicken but think that is because I am used to the Quicken interface.</p>
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		<title>By: DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post!

You can budget on the back of a napkin . . . the real challenge is to do it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post!</p>
<p>You can budget on the back of a napkin . . . the real challenge is to do it!</p>
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		<title>By: ckstevenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ckstevenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless Mint has chaned (read: FIXED) their budget tool, I can&#039;t recommend anyone use it.

Previously, you&#039;d get the auto-budget amounts (based on a historical average). I&#039;d dutifully adjust their amounts to what I wanted them to be, go off and live my life and come back. Loe and behold, the next time I logged in (every single time) the budget amounts were DIFFERENT.

Mint was auto-changing the budget amounts based on averages. Everytime I categorized an old purchase, or a new one came in (they have great auto-categorizing rules, clunky to learn the first time though), boom my budget was off.


Can anyone confirm this has been fixed? There literally dozens upon dozens of angry posts about this on the Mint forum about this feature not working correctly. The typically response was &quot;We&#039;ll fix that later.&quot;


Without a functioning (and real) budget tool then Mint is nothing more than a repository of information.


The worst part about the auto-budget in my eyes is that if you have a spending part this average is going to be the amount of money you are spending that got you into trouble. Where&#039;s the value in that? If nothing else it should take the average, then subtract 5%, at least that way you&#039;d be spending a little less (and putting that 5% into savings transfers).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless Mint has chaned (read: FIXED) their budget tool, I can&#8217;t recommend anyone use it.</p>
<p>Previously, you&#8217;d get the auto-budget amounts (based on a historical average). I&#8217;d dutifully adjust their amounts to what I wanted them to be, go off and live my life and come back. Loe and behold, the next time I logged in (every single time) the budget amounts were DIFFERENT.</p>
<p>Mint was auto-changing the budget amounts based on averages. Everytime I categorized an old purchase, or a new one came in (they have great auto-categorizing rules, clunky to learn the first time though), boom my budget was off.</p>
<p>Can anyone confirm this has been fixed? There literally dozens upon dozens of angry posts about this on the Mint forum about this feature not working correctly. The typically response was &#8220;We&#8217;ll fix that later.&#8221;</p>
<p>Without a functioning (and real) budget tool then Mint is nothing more than a repository of information.</p>
<p>The worst part about the auto-budget in my eyes is that if you have a spending part this average is going to be the amount of money you are spending that got you into trouble. Where&#8217;s the value in that? If nothing else it should take the average, then subtract 5%, at least that way you&#8217;d be spending a little less (and putting that 5% into savings transfers).</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You already have a budget, these tools automagically set it up for you, now you just have to stick to it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You already have a budget, these tools automagically set it up for you, now you just have to stick to it. <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just started using Mint and I am liking it. I haven&#039;t finalized a formal budget using it yet, but when I get motivated I can tell it will be fairly easy to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just started using Mint and I am liking it. I haven&#8217;t finalized a formal budget using it yet, but when I get motivated I can tell it will be fairly easy to do.</p>
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		<title>By: CuriousAG</title>
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		<dc:creator>CuriousAG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am using Quicken Online for a while, it has been one of the best and with their new trends graphics it&#039;s getting better everyday. Only thing I think should be added is to refresh all the account at once at a button click, currently we need to refresh each account individually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am using Quicken Online for a while, it has been one of the best and with their new trends graphics it&#8217;s getting better everyday. Only thing I think should be added is to refresh all the account at once at a button click, currently we need to refresh each account individually.</p>
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