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		<title>By: Marie Casas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie Casas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Top of mind...
Rich Dad Poor Dad. I’m glad and grateful to Kiyosaki and his co-writer (he had one right?) because this is the book that got me started thinking about generating passive income and managing money. But it didn’t really help me in how to get started. Network marketers recommend this to new recruits but it&#039;s just to romanticize their business model.

I also don’t fancy reading Colayco’s Pera Mo, Palaguin Mo! (Grow your money!) books. The illustrations are an okay touch but I didn’t really relate to the examples. He writes in a “you do this, you do that” tone that wasn’t conversational. I felt very detached that I just started skipping pages to see what information I could relate to. And the binding was too tight for that thick a book, so you couldn’t open up the book too much to enjoy reading it. I didn&#039;t learn anything new. The author&#039;s an elderly professional though so I guess a lot of people respect him and would listen to him. There are very few books written on personal finance for Filipinos. I should get started on my own soon!

I do love Science of Getting Rich and listening to Napoleon Hill. I should list a few books I like next time.

Right now, I carry around with me a hardbound Your Money and Your Man. Got it for PHP199 ($5) at the new bargain bookstore beside the department store at Walter Mart Pasay Road, Makati City.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Top of mind&#8230;<br />
Rich Dad Poor Dad. I’m glad and grateful to Kiyosaki and his co-writer (he had one right?) because this is the book that got me started thinking about generating passive income and managing money. But it didn’t really help me in how to get started. Network marketers recommend this to new recruits but it&#8217;s just to romanticize their business model.</p>
<p>I also don’t fancy reading Colayco’s Pera Mo, Palaguin Mo! (Grow your money!) books. The illustrations are an okay touch but I didn’t really relate to the examples. He writes in a “you do this, you do that” tone that wasn’t conversational. I felt very detached that I just started skipping pages to see what information I could relate to. And the binding was too tight for that thick a book, so you couldn’t open up the book too much to enjoy reading it. I didn&#8217;t learn anything new. The author&#8217;s an elderly professional though so I guess a lot of people respect him and would listen to him. There are very few books written on personal finance for Filipinos. I should get started on my own soon!</p>
<p>I do love Science of Getting Rich and listening to Napoleon Hill. I should list a few books I like next time.</p>
<p>Right now, I carry around with me a hardbound Your Money and Your Man. Got it for PHP199 ($5) at the new bargain bookstore beside the department store at Walter Mart Pasay Road, Makati City.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I like the change in mindset that comes with RDPD&quot; - I have to agree with MBHunter.  This was the book that got me to think about assets and liabilities.

A lot of the other books seemed common sense or things that I&#039;ve gotten from years of reading Money Magazine.  With RDPD isn&#039;t actionable, it at least got me started thinking about a life where a 9-to-5 job isn&#039;t necessary.  I think that&#039;s a very good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I like the change in mindset that comes with RDPD&#8221; &#8211; I have to agree with MBHunter.  This was the book that got me to think about assets and liabilities.</p>
<p>A lot of the other books seemed common sense or things that I&#8217;ve gotten from years of reading Money Magazine.  With RDPD isn&#8217;t actionable, it at least got me started thinking about a life where a 9-to-5 job isn&#8217;t necessary.  I think that&#8217;s a very good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Long Time Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Long Time Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything said or written by Suze Orman.  She is stupid, uneducated and she projects an unprofessional image of women in personal finance related fields.  Thoughtless advice given credibility by a television show.  The books are comprised of inane repetitions of advice given more intelligently by others, sprinkled with a lot of &quot;you go girl&quot; feel good junk.  

Kiyosaki struck a nerve with a lot of people with RDPD.  He got a lot of people thinking about earned vs. asset-based income, as several of the comments show.  I found Cash Flow Quadrant to be his most interesting book.  I don&#039;t care for what he has done since, but his greed and bad judgement do not invalidate the ideas put forth in the books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything said or written by Suze Orman.  She is stupid, uneducated and she projects an unprofessional image of women in personal finance related fields.  Thoughtless advice given credibility by a television show.  The books are comprised of inane repetitions of advice given more intelligently by others, sprinkled with a lot of &#8220;you go girl&#8221; feel good junk.  </p>
<p>Kiyosaki struck a nerve with a lot of people with RDPD.  He got a lot of people thinking about earned vs. asset-based income, as several of the comments show.  I found Cash Flow Quadrant to be his most interesting book.  I don&#8217;t care for what he has done since, but his greed and bad judgement do not invalidate the ideas put forth in the books.</p>
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		<title>By: fathersez</title>
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		<dc:creator>fathersez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 04:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Mathew and ERE. 

It was RDPD that got me started on thinking where I was heading financially. I did not read the book as an &quot;idea giver&quot;. Perhaps this is why I feel a lot more charitable to RK.

But I think he has about hit the limits on overselling. The rest of his books,  are a real pain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Mathew and ERE. </p>
<p>It was RDPD that got me started on thinking where I was heading financially. I did not read the book as an &#8220;idea giver&#8221;. Perhaps this is why I feel a lot more charitable to RK.</p>
<p>But I think he has about hit the limits on overselling. The rest of his books,  are a real pain.</p>
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		<title>By: mbhunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>mbhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the change in mindset that comes with RDPD but many of the specifics are wrong.  John Reed is a bit of a pill and he does bring a lot of negative energy to the real estate world AND he is peddling his own books, but he does have some points.

I&#039;ll still have to say though that my most hated PF book is Douglas Andrew&#039;s Missed Fortune 101.  The premise behind it -- borrowing against your house to buy life insurance -- may be good for some people who have no other option for retirement income, but it can easily backfire and it&#039;s very expensive.  The overall advice goes counter to just about every sound piece of personal finance  out there, and claims to be able to deliver a free lunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the change in mindset that comes with RDPD but many of the specifics are wrong.  John Reed is a bit of a pill and he does bring a lot of negative energy to the real estate world AND he is peddling his own books, but he does have some points.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll still have to say though that my most hated PF book is Douglas Andrew&#8217;s Missed Fortune 101.  The premise behind it &#8212; borrowing against your house to buy life insurance &#8212; may be good for some people who have no other option for retirement income, but it can easily backfire and it&#8217;s very expensive.  The overall advice goes counter to just about every sound piece of personal finance  out there, and claims to be able to deliver a free lunch.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Paulson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Paulson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 01:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kiyosaki&#039;s &quot;Rich Dad, Poor Dad&quot; is actually a pretty decent book, but just about everything else he&#039;s written is utter trash. Trump and Kiyosaki&#039;s book &quot;Why We Want You To Be Rich&quot; takes the cake. Who in their right mind would take the advice of taking on risk and venturing into quesionable real estate investments from people who have both had personal/business bankruptcy by taking on too much risk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kiyosaki&#8217;s &#8220;Rich Dad, Poor Dad&#8221; is actually a pretty decent book, but just about everything else he&#8217;s written is utter trash. Trump and Kiyosaki&#8217;s book &#8220;Why We Want You To Be Rich&#8221; takes the cake. Who in their right mind would take the advice of taking on risk and venturing into quesionable real estate investments from people who have both had personal/business bankruptcy by taking on too much risk?</p>
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		<title>By: Slava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2 out 4 books in your list related to Real Estate. Do you think they made it to this list only because of current situation? So what if you poll 2-3 years ago? Would people praise books about RE investing?

P.S. I agree on RDPD uselessness. Lots of talk and almost no practical implementation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 out 4 books in your list related to Real Estate. Do you think they made it to this list only because of current situation? So what if you poll 2-3 years ago? Would people praise books about RE investing?</p>
<p>P.S. I agree on RDPD uselessness. Lots of talk and almost no practical implementation.</p>
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		<title>By: Lord</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any book that is detested must be doing something right!  

Not the worst book, but the most overrated, is probably the Automatic Millionaire.  Too simple minded.  No recognition of its waning applicability.  Yet his designation of savings rates is apropos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any book that is detested must be doing something right!  </p>
<p>Not the worst book, but the most overrated, is probably the Automatic Millionaire.  Too simple minded.  No recognition of its waning applicability.  Yet his designation of savings rates is apropos.</p>
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		<title>By: plonkee</title>
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		<dc:creator>plonkee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst I do indeed dislike Rich Dad Poor Dad, at least it&#039;s readable. Unlike another book that the m-network were each sent a couple of months ago which I don&#039;t think a single one of us has finished. I&#039;m glad I didn&#039;t waste any money on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst I do indeed dislike Rich Dad Poor Dad, at least it&#8217;s readable. Unlike another book that the m-network were each sent a couple of months ago which I don&#8217;t think a single one of us has finished. I&#8217;m glad I didn&#8217;t waste any money on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Early Retirement Extreme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Early Retirement Extreme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like RDPD. I forget which one I read, but I would put it in my top two list of entry level books, the other one being &quot;Your money or your life&quot;. While your money or your life made me reevaluate whether an expense was really worth it, RDPD changed the way I thought about money. I must admit that prior to reading RDPD my whole mindset regarding money was that it was something I earned in order to spend. The more I earned, the more I could spend. 

Frequently when we are very set in a paradigm it is hard to see the alternatives. I mean, the idea of accumulating enough money to get the money to work for me instead of having a job, a previously alien concept, coupled with a reevaluation of whether all my expenses were really worth it changed my financial frame of mind completely. I mean, in my mind, these concepts go way beyond working and saving for a comfortable retirement. Rather for me it was a question of replacing my job with an asset based income sufficient to fulfill my needs. To do that some extreme measures had to be taken lest it be many many years before my investment income would even compare to my regular expenses. So I credit RDPD and YMOYL for that.

Being a fairly intuitive or abstract person, I actually prefer to get the concepts rather than the specifics. This is very person specific. Some people prefer to understand why or how things are what they are. Others prefer a 5 step program and mnemonics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like RDPD. I forget which one I read, but I would put it in my top two list of entry level books, the other one being &#8220;Your money or your life&#8221;. While your money or your life made me reevaluate whether an expense was really worth it, RDPD changed the way I thought about money. I must admit that prior to reading RDPD my whole mindset regarding money was that it was something I earned in order to spend. The more I earned, the more I could spend. </p>
<p>Frequently when we are very set in a paradigm it is hard to see the alternatives. I mean, the idea of accumulating enough money to get the money to work for me instead of having a job, a previously alien concept, coupled with a reevaluation of whether all my expenses were really worth it changed my financial frame of mind completely. I mean, in my mind, these concepts go way beyond working and saving for a comfortable retirement. Rather for me it was a question of replacing my job with an asset based income sufficient to fulfill my needs. To do that some extreme measures had to be taken lest it be many many years before my investment income would even compare to my regular expenses. So I credit RDPD and YMOYL for that.</p>
<p>Being a fairly intuitive or abstract person, I actually prefer to get the concepts rather than the specifics. This is very person specific. Some people prefer to understand why or how things are what they are. Others prefer a 5 step program and mnemonics.</p>
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		<title>By: fivecentnickel.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>fivecentnickel.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 99% sure I would dislike Rich Dad, Poor Dad if I read it, but I haven&#039;t so I can&#039;t comment on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 99% sure I would dislike Rich Dad, Poor Dad if I read it, but I haven&#8217;t so I can&#8217;t comment on it.</p>
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		<title>By: fn</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any book written by Wade Cook. He recently was sentenced to 88 months in jail for tax evasion. He preyed on the gullible with get rich quick stock trading schemes. A synopsis of him can be found here in this Seattle Times article:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002659152_wadecook02.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any book written by Wade Cook. He recently was sentenced to 88 months in jail for tax evasion. He preyed on the gullible with get rich quick stock trading schemes. A synopsis of him can be found here in this Seattle Times article:</p>
<p><a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002659152_wadecook02.html" rel="nofollow">http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002659152_wadecook02.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Traciatim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Traciatim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t think the rich dad series is all that bad. Sure it&#039;s not that actionable, but it does get you thinking about finances, taxes, and the &#039;rich mindset&#039;. It&#039;s the same with things like the millionaire mind. If you think that something can be so, it will be so because you will find a way. That&#039;s the message of the more motivational rather than technical books like RDPD or TMM.

RDPD actually was the book that introduced me to thinking about personal finance, investing, and financial education. If I hadn&#039;t read that first I would probably be still in an apartment thinking about how I&#039;m going to eat next week rather than a home making my plans for 2008 for taxes, retirement planning, and security. I&#039;d say Mr Kiyosaki has accomplished his goal here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t think the rich dad series is all that bad. Sure it&#8217;s not that actionable, but it does get you thinking about finances, taxes, and the &#8216;rich mindset&#8217;. It&#8217;s the same with things like the millionaire mind. If you think that something can be so, it will be so because you will find a way. That&#8217;s the message of the more motivational rather than technical books like RDPD or TMM.</p>
<p>RDPD actually was the book that introduced me to thinking about personal finance, investing, and financial education. If I hadn&#8217;t read that first I would probably be still in an apartment thinking about how I&#8217;m going to eat next week rather than a home making my plans for 2008 for taxes, retirement planning, and security. I&#8217;d say Mr Kiyosaki has accomplished his goal here.</p>
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