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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife works at the self-checkout station at Walmart, and she told me that they are profiting from manufacture coupons in the coupon bin for which the item was never purchased; turned away, because her manager told her not to accept certain Internet coupons; however, once these coupons are in the coupon bin, they still redeem them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife works at the self-checkout station at Walmart, and she told me that they are profiting from manufacture coupons in the coupon bin for which the item was never purchased; turned away, because her manager told her not to accept certain Internet coupons; however, once these coupons are in the coupon bin, they still redeem them.</p>
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		<title>By: skater</title>
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		<dc:creator>skater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh by the way, it is not safe to assume that the grocery store is getting paid for every manufacturer coupon.

If you scan it at the self checkout and don&#039;t put it in the slot, how on earth do I get paid? Now that&#039;s unethical.

We accept legitimate coupons, and the manufacturer will not pay us sometimes. Because we are a small independent retailer, we have no leverage over these big conglomerates. If you cheating on coupons, it&#039;s the retailer that&#039;s going to pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh by the way, it is not safe to assume that the grocery store is getting paid for every manufacturer coupon.</p>
<p>If you scan it at the self checkout and don&#8217;t put it in the slot, how on earth do I get paid? Now that&#8217;s unethical.</p>
<p>We accept legitimate coupons, and the manufacturer will not pay us sometimes. Because we are a small independent retailer, we have no leverage over these big conglomerates. If you cheating on coupons, it&#8217;s the retailer that&#8217;s going to pay.</p>
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		<title>By: skater</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/frugal-ethics-question-printable-coupons.html/comment-page-1#comment-332939</link>
		<dc:creator>skater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is sufficient fraud with these coupons to understand a retailer being hesitant to accept them. Of course they are not going to make fraudulent coupons with the wrong barcodes, when they can take the codes from a legitimate coupon.  I had a customer tell her computer to print 4 copies of a coupon. They all had the same unique barcode.  I would only get paid for one.  Why not print 99? 999?  Why not photocopy it and give it to all your friends?

In the end, if you obtained the coupon through honest sources and using it as intended, there is no ethical problem.  But please, just because you got it from the internet doesn&#039;t make it a real coupon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is sufficient fraud with these coupons to understand a retailer being hesitant to accept them. Of course they are not going to make fraudulent coupons with the wrong barcodes, when they can take the codes from a legitimate coupon.  I had a customer tell her computer to print 4 copies of a coupon. They all had the same unique barcode.  I would only get paid for one.  Why not print 99? 999?  Why not photocopy it and give it to all your friends?</p>
<p>In the end, if you obtained the coupon through honest sources and using it as intended, there is no ethical problem.  But please, just because you got it from the internet doesn&#8217;t make it a real coupon.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/frugal-ethics-question-printable-coupons.html/comment-page-1#comment-305775</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I continue to use printed coupons at SF. They STILL haven&#039;t updated their scanners. My total savings that prints on the bottom of every receipt is up to something like $1200.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I continue to use printed coupons at SF. They STILL haven&#8217;t updated their scanners. My total savings that prints on the bottom of every receipt is up to something like $1200.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 12:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I have to say that I was at my local SuperFresh yesterday after having discovered coupon.com.  Imagine my dismay being yelled at by the SELF CHECKOUT POLICE.  She and the manager confirm no internet coupons allowed.  

I find this to be an unethical practice - keeping the policy &#039;secret&#039; until AFTER you&#039;ve run your groceries through.  I wish I could have walked out without finishing my transaction, but I needed those groceries.  All the same, I feel tricked into spending my $60 in their store under the guise that I could use my measly $2.05 in coupons.  

I am definitely going to call corporate today. Guilty until proven innocent seems to be their policy. No more &#039;customer is king&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I have to say that I was at my local SuperFresh yesterday after having discovered coupon.com.  Imagine my dismay being yelled at by the SELF CHECKOUT POLICE.  She and the manager confirm no internet coupons allowed.  </p>
<p>I find this to be an unethical practice &#8211; keeping the policy &#8216;secret&#8217; until AFTER you&#8217;ve run your groceries through.  I wish I could have walked out without finishing my transaction, but I needed those groceries.  All the same, I feel tricked into spending my $60 in their store under the guise that I could use my measly $2.05 in coupons.  </p>
<p>I am definitely going to call corporate today. Guilty until proven innocent seems to be their policy. No more &#8216;customer is king&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: jr</title>
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		<dc:creator>jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came to this site from searching my issue. I was at the superfresh trying to use an online coupon. Usually I do the self-checkout b/c most supermarkets to me don&#039;t provide me with the products I need so I buy very little from them. Well the self checkout was mobbed so I jumped in a shorter &#039;cashier&#039; line. The cashier told me they didn&#039;t accept online coupons. At first I was going to argue that the machines accepts them but I figured I&#039;d trust her statement, but verify it myself. So it seems they don&#039;t allow online coupons but the self checkout machines do. SINCE the supermarket&#039;s policy isn&#039;t consistent, then I&#039;m going to use the self checkout machines with my online coupons as much as possible, that is, until the store figures it out themselves! So much for technology eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came to this site from searching my issue. I was at the superfresh trying to use an online coupon. Usually I do the self-checkout b/c most supermarkets to me don&#8217;t provide me with the products I need so I buy very little from them. Well the self checkout was mobbed so I jumped in a shorter &#8216;cashier&#8217; line. The cashier told me they didn&#8217;t accept online coupons. At first I was going to argue that the machines accepts them but I figured I&#8217;d trust her statement, but verify it myself. So it seems they don&#8217;t allow online coupons but the self checkout machines do. SINCE the supermarket&#8217;s policy isn&#8217;t consistent, then I&#8217;m going to use the self checkout machines with my online coupons as much as possible, that is, until the store figures it out themselves! So much for technology eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Mia Mamma</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/frugal-ethics-question-printable-coupons.html/comment-page-1#comment-297588</link>
		<dc:creator>Mia Mamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to come so late to the party, but I think Conrad has it right.  About a year ago MSNMoney had an article about the Death of the Coupon and how we&#039;d all be getting cents-off over the internet or our cellphones, but it hasn&#039;t happened yet.  And signing up for &quot;Advantage Cards&quot; or special programs where you trade your family&#039;s purchase information for discounts strikes me as a kind of extortion.  It&#039;s nobody&#039;s business what kind of salad dressing I buy!  Stores in our area no longer offer to double coupons, and most coupons on groceries are for things I wouldn&#039;t buy anyway, or would compare prices and buy the store brand.  Usually after taking the time to cut out and bring along a coupon, I find the store either doesn&#039;t carry the product or has a product that sells for less than the brand name WITH coupon, so I leave the coupon on the shelf for someone else.  Sorry if that&#039;s littering.

If stores would give a blanket discount on a purchase, ie $5 off a $25 purchase, that would be a coupon I could use.  Until then, I&#039;m buying generic flour to make my own bread and cinnamon rolls and pizza dough, and I&#039;ve got 10 years&#039; of toothpaste stored up from the double coupon days.  If Reader Jon determines that store policy is to accept internet coupons he should in good conscience use them, but I hope the coupons are, in fact, worth his time and effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to come so late to the party, but I think Conrad has it right.  About a year ago MSNMoney had an article about the Death of the Coupon and how we&#8217;d all be getting cents-off over the internet or our cellphones, but it hasn&#8217;t happened yet.  And signing up for &#8220;Advantage Cards&#8221; or special programs where you trade your family&#8217;s purchase information for discounts strikes me as a kind of extortion.  It&#8217;s nobody&#8217;s business what kind of salad dressing I buy!  Stores in our area no longer offer to double coupons, and most coupons on groceries are for things I wouldn&#8217;t buy anyway, or would compare prices and buy the store brand.  Usually after taking the time to cut out and bring along a coupon, I find the store either doesn&#8217;t carry the product or has a product that sells for less than the brand name WITH coupon, so I leave the coupon on the shelf for someone else.  Sorry if that&#8217;s littering.</p>
<p>If stores would give a blanket discount on a purchase, ie $5 off a $25 purchase, that would be a coupon I could use.  Until then, I&#8217;m buying generic flour to make my own bread and cinnamon rolls and pizza dough, and I&#8217;ve got 10 years&#8217; of toothpaste stored up from the double coupon days.  If Reader Jon determines that store policy is to accept internet coupons he should in good conscience use them, but I hope the coupons are, in fact, worth his time and effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Conrad</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/frugal-ethics-question-printable-coupons.html/comment-page-1#comment-294312</link>
		<dc:creator>Conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW

being frugal about my time and my emotions tells me to avoid these coupons all together!

Am I on the right planet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW</p>
<p>being frugal about my time and my emotions tells me to avoid these coupons all together!</p>
<p>Am I on the right planet?</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Kerstetter</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/frugal-ethics-question-printable-coupons.html/comment-page-1#comment-292602</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Kerstetter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This rant about internet coupons is getting to be pure bull,if you ask me. I went to a Pathmark, which used to be a Super Fresh until some top mangement decision to merge the two-another story in itself. Well,in this particular store, the cashier right away said she would not accept my internet coupons, then the head cashier chimed in as well. Needless to say, I was so pissed off, I threw the groceries back in their face, and promptly went to another Pathmark (not formerly Super Fresh) nearby, and guess what? The cashier their gladly accepted the same coupons! ( I checked first with the customer service area). I also went to yet another Pathmark formerly Super Fresh,, and the manager there said ther was a conference call about this situation, and she was told to ACCEPT all internet coupons. So what is the problem? Should we do a class action suit against stores that don&#039;t? Count me in !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This rant about internet coupons is getting to be pure bull,if you ask me. I went to a Pathmark, which used to be a Super Fresh until some top mangement decision to merge the two-another story in itself. Well,in this particular store, the cashier right away said she would not accept my internet coupons, then the head cashier chimed in as well. Needless to say, I was so pissed off, I threw the groceries back in their face, and promptly went to another Pathmark (not formerly Super Fresh) nearby, and guess what? The cashier their gladly accepted the same coupons! ( I checked first with the customer service area). I also went to yet another Pathmark formerly Super Fresh,, and the manager there said ther was a conference call about this situation, and she was told to ACCEPT all internet coupons. So what is the problem? Should we do a class action suit against stores that don&#8217;t? Count me in !!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/frugal-ethics-question-printable-coupons.html/comment-page-1#comment-291703</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The local chains no longer allow printed internet coupons.

Instead, some supermarkets allow to add deals to their rewards cards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The local chains no longer allow printed internet coupons.</p>
<p>Instead, some supermarkets allow to add deals to their rewards cards.</p>
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		<title>By: Shadox</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/frugal-ethics-question-printable-coupons.html/comment-page-1#comment-291654</link>
		<dc:creator>Shadox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing unethical about this. If the company does not want to accept the coupons, it is their responsibility to make the appropriate changes to their machines.

If the coupons are legitimate, and the machines accept them, the shopper is doing nothing wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing unethical about this. If the company does not want to accept the coupons, it is their responsibility to make the appropriate changes to their machines.</p>
<p>If the coupons are legitimate, and the machines accept them, the shopper is doing nothing wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/frugal-ethics-question-printable-coupons.html/comment-page-1#comment-291618</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - I think that you&#039;re good as long as you don&#039;t knowingly give them a coupon you know is invalid. Some places will accept expired coupons, so that could be the case at the store you go to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; I think that you&#8217;re good as long as you don&#8217;t knowingly give them a coupon you know is invalid. Some places will accept expired coupons, so that could be the case at the store you go to.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a similar ethical quandary.  At my local supermarket, I have noticed that if the cashiers scan a coupon and it is rejected by the system, they will almost always just override the rejection and key in the coupon manually (as long as the item is in your basket).  Most of the time they do not look at the coupon in detail, so I am sure there are times they are keying in expired coupons or coupons for items that are similar but not identical to what the customer is buying.  In that case, is it the customer&#039;s ethical responsibility to verify that they are using a valid coupon?  Or is it the job of the cashier to make sure the coupon is really valid before they key it in manually?  I feel the latter but I would like to see what others think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a similar ethical quandary.  At my local supermarket, I have noticed that if the cashiers scan a coupon and it is rejected by the system, they will almost always just override the rejection and key in the coupon manually (as long as the item is in your basket).  Most of the time they do not look at the coupon in detail, so I am sure there are times they are keying in expired coupons or coupons for items that are similar but not identical to what the customer is buying.  In that case, is it the customer&#8217;s ethical responsibility to verify that they are using a valid coupon?  Or is it the job of the cashier to make sure the coupon is really valid before they key it in manually?  I feel the latter but I would like to see what others think.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy @ Chief Family Officer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy @ Chief Family Officer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with the printable coupon policy at most stores is that stores and employees are not consistent or they don&#039;t understand the policy accurately. Some corporate reps will even say over the phone that each store&#039;s manager gets to set that store&#039;s policy.

For example, a few months ago, there was a legitimate Target printable coupon for $5 off a $25 TOY purchase. Some jerk(s) altered the coupon to eliminate the TOY part and made it just any $25 purchase. So Target&#039;s corporate offices decided not to accept either coupon, and stores put up signs to that effect. But there were SO many cashiers who refused to accept ANY printable coupon, and even some managers didn&#039;t understand the difference.

It&#039;s been better, though I&#039;ve taken to printing Target&#039;s own coupons out in the store rather than at home (saves money on printing costs anyway). They come out on slick blue paper so there&#039;s no question that I obtained the coupon legitimately. But even so, every once in a while I get a cashier who starts to mumble they can&#039;t accept printables and I have to explain their own employer&#039;s policy to them.

All of which brings me to my point about Super Fresh: The ethical thing to do is find out the official coupon policy and follow it. I would both contact the store manager and email the corporate offices to find out what the official corporate policy is and try to get it in writing. Because Super Fresh has printable coupons on their own web site (I just printed some a couple of days ago), I suspect the cashier was wrong. If that&#039;s the case, by all means use the self checkout, and whip out the written policy if confronted. And of course, only use coupons legitimately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the printable coupon policy at most stores is that stores and employees are not consistent or they don&#8217;t understand the policy accurately. Some corporate reps will even say over the phone that each store&#8217;s manager gets to set that store&#8217;s policy.</p>
<p>For example, a few months ago, there was a legitimate Target printable coupon for $5 off a $25 TOY purchase. Some jerk(s) altered the coupon to eliminate the TOY part and made it just any $25 purchase. So Target&#8217;s corporate offices decided not to accept either coupon, and stores put up signs to that effect. But there were SO many cashiers who refused to accept ANY printable coupon, and even some managers didn&#8217;t understand the difference.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been better, though I&#8217;ve taken to printing Target&#8217;s own coupons out in the store rather than at home (saves money on printing costs anyway). They come out on slick blue paper so there&#8217;s no question that I obtained the coupon legitimately. But even so, every once in a while I get a cashier who starts to mumble they can&#8217;t accept printables and I have to explain their own employer&#8217;s policy to them.</p>
<p>All of which brings me to my point about Super Fresh: The ethical thing to do is find out the official coupon policy and follow it. I would both contact the store manager and email the corporate offices to find out what the official corporate policy is and try to get it in writing. Because Super Fresh has printable coupons on their own web site (I just printed some a couple of days ago), I suspect the cashier was wrong. If that&#8217;s the case, by all means use the self checkout, and whip out the written policy if confronted. And of course, only use coupons legitimately.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see anything unethical about it.  If they do not accept internet coupons, then they need to make ti more visible and not just a secret policy only the workers there know.  I will sometimes only go to a store like Superfresh if I have a coupon and would not have normally bought it if I knew they weren&#039;t going to accept it.   The only reason they don&#039;t make it more public is they don&#039;t want to lose some business from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see anything unethical about it.  If they do not accept internet coupons, then they need to make ti more visible and not just a secret policy only the workers there know.  I will sometimes only go to a store like Superfresh if I have a coupon and would not have normally bought it if I knew they weren&#8217;t going to accept it.   The only reason they don&#8217;t make it more public is they don&#8217;t want to lose some business from it.</p>
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