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		<title>By: Soldier Wife</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soldier Wife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 02:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q: for anyone who may know the answer.  

We qualified for the $8,000 first time home buyer stimulus. We have owned our home for 2 years.  My husband is active duty and we just recieved orders to PCS to another duty station, but heard if we rent out our home we will have to pay back the money.  I dont understand because we are HAVING to leave because of my husband being active duty.  I heard there is a claus can anyone help?????</description>
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<p>We qualified for the $8,000 first time home buyer stimulus. We have owned our home for 2 years.  My husband is active duty and we just recieved orders to PCS to another duty station, but heard if we rent out our home we will have to pay back the money.  I dont understand because we are HAVING to leave because of my husband being active duty.  I heard there is a claus can anyone help?????</p>
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		<title>By: mikestreb</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikestreb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew I could get creative with it (within the law and IRC of course).  Problem with deferring billings is this...  The business is going to be a tax preparation business (similar to an H&amp;R Block, but independent). Because of that, if I try to defer billing any later than before I efile a customers return, the chance I will see them again to get paid is slim.  I have it setup in an LLC for this tax season. I may put it in an S Corp after tax season (depending on if I think it will save me on SE Tax). I think I can take a lot of bonus depreciation on new equipment (it was one of the stimulus act provisions to help out businesses - You can take 50% depreciation in the first year).  I wonder if depreciation is an &#039;excluded expense&#039; in the eyes of ODJFS or if there are any &#039;excluded expenses&#039; like Meals &amp; Entertainment?

I also want to make sure what I do doesn&#039;t screw up UE after tax season is over.

I need UE to start backup when business stops in late April. I think I am in good shape as I never really found employment.  They really need to put out a good guide for self employed people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew I could get creative with it (within the law and IRC of course).  Problem with deferring billings is this&#8230;  The business is going to be a tax preparation business (similar to an H&amp;R Block, but independent). Because of that, if I try to defer billing any later than before I efile a customers return, the chance I will see them again to get paid is slim.  I have it setup in an LLC for this tax season. I may put it in an S Corp after tax season (depending on if I think it will save me on SE Tax). I think I can take a lot of bonus depreciation on new equipment (it was one of the stimulus act provisions to help out businesses &#8211; You can take 50% depreciation in the first year).  I wonder if depreciation is an &#8216;excluded expense&#8217; in the eyes of ODJFS or if there are any &#8216;excluded expenses&#8217; like Meals &amp; Entertainment?</p>
<p>I also want to make sure what I do doesn&#8217;t screw up UE after tax season is over.</p>
<p>I need UE to start backup when business stops in late April. I think I am in good shape as I never really found employment.  They really need to put out a good guide for self employed people.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Harr @ TodayForward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Harr @ TodayForward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mikestreb - now that I know you have an accounting background, it&#039;s game ON!  Depending on your business structure, you can do a great many things to avoid showing any income whatsoever.  As an example, if you are on a cash basis, simply defer your billings until after unemployment expires.  If you&#039;re on an accrual basis, accelerate major purchases or extend credit terms.  You can be a sole proprietor (which is cash basis), an S-corp (delay dividends until year end or after unemployment runs out), or an LLC which has the option to be taxed the way you like.

Having been an independent financial advisor for years, I know that I would do most of my billings at the end of the year or I would ask my clients to pay me in January of the following year to control my effective tax rate from year to year.

Also, let&#039;s say you buy a computer that must be depreciated over 5 years.  You&#039;re weekly P&amp;L would reflect 1/260th of the purchase price as a depreciation expense (using straight line, MACRS could be better but haven&#039;t looked at those rates in a good while).

Bottom Line:  You&#039;re in the driver&#039;s seat if you simply use what is already available.

BTW-the UE system is SERIOUSLY jacked up.  Good system, really frustrating administration, and a pain in the backside to deal with.  Perhaps one of the UE strategies is to make it such a pain that you do ANYTHING to stop dealing with them.

Stop by my personal blog at http://www.wealthuncomplicated.com and drop me an email.  I&#039;d love to chat with you and see if there&#039;s anything I can do to help you get off the UE rolls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mikestreb &#8211; now that I know you have an accounting background, it&#8217;s game ON!  Depending on your business structure, you can do a great many things to avoid showing any income whatsoever.  As an example, if you are on a cash basis, simply defer your billings until after unemployment expires.  If you&#8217;re on an accrual basis, accelerate major purchases or extend credit terms.  You can be a sole proprietor (which is cash basis), an S-corp (delay dividends until year end or after unemployment runs out), or an LLC which has the option to be taxed the way you like.</p>
<p>Having been an independent financial advisor for years, I know that I would do most of my billings at the end of the year or I would ask my clients to pay me in January of the following year to control my effective tax rate from year to year.</p>
<p>Also, let&#8217;s say you buy a computer that must be depreciated over 5 years.  You&#8217;re weekly P&amp;L would reflect 1/260th of the purchase price as a depreciation expense (using straight line, MACRS could be better but haven&#8217;t looked at those rates in a good while).</p>
<p>Bottom Line:  You&#8217;re in the driver&#8217;s seat if you simply use what is already available.</p>
<p>BTW-the UE system is SERIOUSLY jacked up.  Good system, really frustrating administration, and a pain in the backside to deal with.  Perhaps one of the UE strategies is to make it such a pain that you do ANYTHING to stop dealing with them.</p>
<p>Stop by my personal blog at <a href="http://www.wealthuncomplicated.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wealthuncomplicated.com</a> and drop me an email.  I&#8217;d love to chat with you and see if there&#8217;s anything I can do to help you get off the UE rolls.</p>
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		<title>By: mikestreb</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikestreb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does suck to be excluded from this. Almost like being punished for doing it the right way...  That is government for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does suck to be excluded from this. Almost like being punished for doing it the right way&#8230;  That is government for you.</p>
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		<title>By: mikestreb</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikestreb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UE system is flawed.  It has been great and has no doubt helped me greatly while I have been unemployed (laid off from a CPA firm).

The problem I have with it is a mental block for me.  I could go out and find a job right now (not as an accountant) for say $9 an hour (less than half of what I was making). Only problem is UE is essentially paying me $9.50 an hour. End result is, even though I work 40 hours a week, I bring home the SAME AMOUNT as I would if I sit on my thumb all day. If I find a job making $10 an hour, it is like I am making 50 cents an hour because UE was already paying me $9.50/hour.

Either way, the benefits run out sooner or later so I need to do something.  I can&#039;t find a job in my educated field, so I am going to create one.  Hopefully everything works out with it and I can work for myself instead of &#039;The Man&#039; for forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UE system is flawed.  It has been great and has no doubt helped me greatly while I have been unemployed (laid off from a CPA firm).</p>
<p>The problem I have with it is a mental block for me.  I could go out and find a job right now (not as an accountant) for say $9 an hour (less than half of what I was making). Only problem is UE is essentially paying me $9.50 an hour. End result is, even though I work 40 hours a week, I bring home the SAME AMOUNT as I would if I sit on my thumb all day. If I find a job making $10 an hour, it is like I am making 50 cents an hour because UE was already paying me $9.50/hour.</p>
<p>Either way, the benefits run out sooner or later so I need to do something.  I can&#8217;t find a job in my educated field, so I am going to create one.  Hopefully everything works out with it and I can work for myself instead of &#8216;The Man&#8217; for forever.</p>
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		<title>By: mikestreb</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikestreb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My issue with that is how do you do a weekly P&amp;L with things that are more long term (depreciation, etc.) or that are unexpected.  Am I able to spread out the expenses to show a more average result every week (example - if I have a large expense one week, then there would be a negative NI. The say the next week there are very few expenses and I end up showing positive NI. Am I able to smooth that out and show no income if the total of those two weeks is still negative? if that makes sense).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My issue with that is how do you do a weekly P&amp;L with things that are more long term (depreciation, etc.) or that are unexpected.  Am I able to spread out the expenses to show a more average result every week (example &#8211; if I have a large expense one week, then there would be a negative NI. The say the next week there are very few expenses and I end up showing positive NI. Am I able to smooth that out and show no income if the total of those two weeks is still negative? if that makes sense).</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael is right - this is definitely a case of having someone give a specific opinion tailored to you. Make sure you can afford the cut in benefits before you get started!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael is right &#8211; this is definitely a case of having someone give a specific opinion tailored to you. Make sure you can afford the cut in benefits before you get started!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Harr @ Wealth...Uncomplicated</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Harr @ Wealth...Uncomplicated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You best bet is to check in with the Ohio Dept of Job and Family Services for the details.  However, any net income you earn while self-employed will go against your unemployment benefits.  

Just remember that your earnings are really up to you to report to ODJFS.  They have a difficult time tracking self-employment income as it really comes down to what you put on your weekly report.  When you do your Schedule C, you&#039;re also left largely to your own reporting though some of your transactions may come through 1099 income that the counterparty reports.

Bottom line:  check with ODJFS first, keep up with your P&amp;L (a good habit anyway), and make sure you provide an accurate report to ODJFS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You best bet is to check in with the Ohio Dept of Job and Family Services for the details.  However, any net income you earn while self-employed will go against your unemployment benefits.  </p>
<p>Just remember that your earnings are really up to you to report to ODJFS.  They have a difficult time tracking self-employment income as it really comes down to what you put on your weekly report.  When you do your Schedule C, you&#8217;re also left largely to your own reporting though some of your transactions may come through 1099 income that the counterparty reports.</p>
<p>Bottom line:  check with ODJFS first, keep up with your P&amp;L (a good habit anyway), and make sure you provide an accurate report to ODJFS.</p>
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		<title>By: mikestreb</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikestreb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know how starting a small business affects unemployment? I assume this is a state specific question (Ohio). I know that they will reduce my unemployment benefits by the amount I earned. Does that mean I have to figure out my P&amp;L weekly and report that?  It isn&#039;t going to be a small business, there will be rent, payroll, depreciation, etc.  So it won&#039;t be as easy as money in (less) money out (equals) what I made in a given week.  

I hope there is an easier way to do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know how starting a small business affects unemployment? I assume this is a state specific question (Ohio). I know that they will reduce my unemployment benefits by the amount I earned. Does that mean I have to figure out my P&amp;L weekly and report that?  It isn&#8217;t going to be a small business, there will be rent, payroll, depreciation, etc.  So it won&#8217;t be as easy as money in (less) money out (equals) what I made in a given week.  </p>
<p>I hope there is an easier way to do this.</p>
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		<title>By: tbork84</title>
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		<dc:creator>tbork84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a few friends that are in the market now for buying a home, and this is a great deal for them to be able to qualify for the credit (since I believe they are closing after the 30th).  I do know for a fact that they would have gone ahead with the purchase regardless of the credit so it makes me wonder if it is really increasing demand that would not exist otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a few friends that are in the market now for buying a home, and this is a great deal for them to be able to qualify for the credit (since I believe they are closing after the 30th).  I do know for a fact that they would have gone ahead with the purchase regardless of the credit so it makes me wonder if it is really increasing demand that would not exist otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent news!  I&#039;m currently closing on a large home out here in Hawaii.  It&#039;s a short sale so it is taking forever.  The extension on the First Time Home Buyer tax credit is great for me but I do feel some sort of credit should be realized for previous homeowners as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent news!  I&#8217;m currently closing on a large home out here in Hawaii.  It&#8217;s a short sale so it is taking forever.  The extension on the First Time Home Buyer tax credit is great for me but I do feel some sort of credit should be realized for previous homeowners as well.</p>
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		<title>By: johnpmcglynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnpmcglynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep stimulating, but be careful no to overspend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep stimulating, but be careful no to overspend.</p>
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		<title>By: pcallaghan</title>
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		<dc:creator>pcallaghan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people seem to believe that this tax credit is creating the same problem as before, people are buying more than they can afford.  But this lends me to the question of what first time home buyer has a HUGE savings that can put the downpayment on their house and still have the full emergency fund.  I just purchased a house with my girlfriend, we didn&#039;t use the $8,000 towards our downpayment, we are using half to put money back into our emergency fund while half to update the house and make it more energy efficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people seem to believe that this tax credit is creating the same problem as before, people are buying more than they can afford.  But this lends me to the question of what first time home buyer has a HUGE savings that can put the downpayment on their house and still have the full emergency fund.  I just purchased a house with my girlfriend, we didn&#8217;t use the $8,000 towards our downpayment, we are using half to put money back into our emergency fund while half to update the house and make it more energy efficient.</p>
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		<title>By: pcallaghan</title>
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		<dc:creator>pcallaghan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call your unemployment office, they were able to spell things out much simpler for me than all the paperwork they sent me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call your unemployment office, they were able to spell things out much simpler for me than all the paperwork they sent me.</p>
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		<title>By: saladdin</title>
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		<dc:creator>saladdin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t like how it&#039;s referred to as a &quot;$8k credit&quot; either. I live in an area where you can get a 2000sq foot home with a pool right now for under 80,000. Which would mean less then 8K credit.

saladdin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t like how it&#8217;s referred to as a &#8220;$8k credit&#8221; either. I live in an area where you can get a 2000sq foot home with a pool right now for under 80,000. Which would mean less then 8K credit.</p>
<p>saladdin</p>
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