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		<title>By: Seth @ Boy Meets Food</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth @ Boy Meets Food</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 14:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I use a spreadsheet that I customized instead of Quicken, and I do not keep my transactions or statements, I think we look at budgets very similarly.

I do look at the &quot;food&quot; category and sub categorize groceries and restaurants.  The sum of the two stays pretty constant from month to month.  Like you said, if one goes up, it usually means the other goes down.

I also do a snapshot of my liquid assets/liabilities on a given day each month.  It is so exciting to watch the net (my EF) grow from month to month.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I use a spreadsheet that I customized instead of Quicken, and I do not keep my transactions or statements, I think we look at budgets very similarly.</p>
<p>I do look at the &#8220;food&#8221; category and sub categorize groceries and restaurants.  The sum of the two stays pretty constant from month to month.  Like you said, if one goes up, it usually means the other goes down.</p>
<p>I also do a snapshot of my liquid assets/liabilities on a given day each month.  It is so exciting to watch the net (my EF) grow from month to month.  <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: otipoby</title>
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		<dc:creator>otipoby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 12:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a firm believer is financial software - I use Quicken (longtime MS Money user :(.  I also track my expenses down to the penny.  I have every CC / bank transaction since 1995.  I actually enjoy tracking my expenses.

I find the &quot;what category should restaurants be in&quot; topic interesting.  I have &quot;groceries&quot; and &quot;restaurants&quot; as sub-categories of &quot;food&quot;.  If I spend more than usual on groceries, that may not be a bad thing if it is more than offset by less spending on restaurants.  That just means I am making more dinners at home.  The total should go down.

Another checkpoint I use that is helpful is I pick a day in a month and take a snapshot of all liquid assets (checking and savings) and all liabilities (CC, car loans, minus mortgage) to see how my emergency fund is changing.  For me, that day is the 12th of every month since most of my accounts close around that time and I am already reconciling them.  I am also a statistics junkie and love to see my savings rate over a full year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a firm believer is financial software &#8211; I use Quicken (longtime MS Money user <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> .  I also track my expenses down to the penny.  I have every CC / bank transaction since 1995.  I actually enjoy tracking my expenses.</p>
<p>I find the &#8220;what category should restaurants be in&#8221; topic interesting.  I have &#8220;groceries&#8221; and &#8220;restaurants&#8221; as sub-categories of &#8220;food&#8221;.  If I spend more than usual on groceries, that may not be a bad thing if it is more than offset by less spending on restaurants.  That just means I am making more dinners at home.  The total should go down.</p>
<p>Another checkpoint I use that is helpful is I pick a day in a month and take a snapshot of all liquid assets (checking and savings) and all liabilities (CC, car loans, minus mortgage) to see how my emergency fund is changing.  For me, that day is the 12th of every month since most of my accounts close around that time and I am already reconciling them.  I am also a statistics junkie and love to see my savings rate over a full year.</p>
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		<title>By: Master Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Master Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a master saver and a stats junkie like yourself having created an Excel spreadsheet and using the &quot;tracking by the penny&quot; model. Like your budget there&#039;s always small adjustments to my budget calculator that can be applied. Any possibility we can see some screenshots of your tracking system? You described it quite well and it would be extra helpful to work with it a little and maybe pick up a few ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a master saver and a stats junkie like yourself having created an Excel spreadsheet and using the &#8220;tracking by the penny&#8221; model. Like your budget there&#8217;s always small adjustments to my budget calculator that can be applied. Any possibility we can see some screenshots of your tracking system? You described it quite well and it would be extra helpful to work with it a little and maybe pick up a few ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious how you handle multi-month expenses that are paid up front but don&#039;t have a fixed time frame.

For example, stuff like toilet paper, soap, cleaning products, etc...

I tend to stock up if there&#039;s a sale since I figure I&#039;ll always need to use it, but that does mess up my budget sometimes.

I know I&#039;m probably over-thinking it, but I&#039;m also a stat junkie and I get a weird joy knowing exactly where my money goes :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious how you handle multi-month expenses that are paid up front but don&#8217;t have a fixed time frame.</p>
<p>For example, stuff like toilet paper, soap, cleaning products, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>I tend to stock up if there&#8217;s a sale since I figure I&#8217;ll always need to use it, but that does mess up my budget sometimes.</p>
<p>I know I&#8217;m probably over-thinking it, but I&#8217;m also a stat junkie and I get a weird joy knowing exactly where my money goes <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Yana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Day-Timers (daytimer.com) are a planner system, and the one I&#039;ve been ordering comes with a box of small file folders, booklets and add-on sheets to track expenses.  In the folders, I keep receipts, and on the inside of the folders which are lined, I write down income, expenses and track things that there isn&#039;t a receipt for.  With the category, such as (m) or (n) after the expense.  Miscellaneous and necessity/non-food grocery are (m) and (n).  Restaurants are (m), using pay laundry machines are (n).

After the year is up, I save everything in the box and store it.  The trouble is that I keep things too long, and several years ago, I had years worth of Day-Timers, including every credit card bill.  I don&#039;t have a shredder, but there was just too much there to rip up.  So I enlisted the help of a friend and her fireplace.  LOL  Good thing she is 100% trustworthy ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Day-Timers (daytimer.com) are a planner system, and the one I&#8217;ve been ordering comes with a box of small file folders, booklets and add-on sheets to track expenses.  In the folders, I keep receipts, and on the inside of the folders which are lined, I write down income, expenses and track things that there isn&#8217;t a receipt for.  With the category, such as (m) or (n) after the expense.  Miscellaneous and necessity/non-food grocery are (m) and (n).  Restaurants are (m), using pay laundry machines are (n).</p>
<p>After the year is up, I save everything in the box and store it.  The trouble is that I keep things too long, and several years ago, I had years worth of Day-Timers, including every credit card bill.  I don&#8217;t have a shredder, but there was just too much there to rip up.  So I enlisted the help of a friend and her fireplace.  LOL  Good thing she is 100% trustworthy <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the Day-Timer system? Does that just refer to using the scheduling booklet? I think putting restaurants into entertainment is a solid idea too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the Day-Timer system? Does that just refer to using the scheduling booklet? I think putting restaurants into entertainment is a solid idea too.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the most balanced treatments of personal budgeting that I have read, especially your examination of guesstimating versus tracking expenses.

There can be no better way to start Financial Literacy Month than by focusing on the starting point for those wishing to increase their financial literacy, creating a financial plan, AKA &quot;a budget&quot;.

Great job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the most balanced treatments of personal budgeting that I have read, especially your examination of guesstimating versus tracking expenses.</p>
<p>There can be no better way to start Financial Literacy Month than by focusing on the starting point for those wishing to increase their financial literacy, creating a financial plan, AKA &#8220;a budget&#8221;.</p>
<p>Great job!</p>
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		<title>By: Yana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve done accounting for years with a Day-Timer system, and account for every penny.  I don&#039;t consider restaurants &quot;Food&quot; either.  I call that a Miscellaneous expense because it is a luxury, in my view.  Also, Gas has its own category, while CRIM (car repairs, insurance, maintenance) is separate.

The goal is to have complete control/mastery over our money.  However, the best one can do is *almost* complete, because we don&#039;t decide exactly how much we are going to be charged for things.  We can&#039;t say no to rent or utilities, and we can only say no to certain grocery items when they are outrageously priced.

The way we do things, we are forced to save.  Some people are incapable of doing that, and instead get tax refunds.  Any expense that can be paid annually vs monthly, we pay annually, like car insurance.  We pay no interest on anything.  We don&#039;t get tax refunds, and consequently have full control of our income.  It belongs to us, not the government, and we don&#039;t have to count on them to have our own money to give back to us.  What seems weird to me is that some people getting refunds don&#039;t seem to realize that it is their money in the first place.  They get the refund and think it is &quot;free&quot; money or a bonus.  LOL  And for some reason, they sometimes seem not to respect that money, and they spend it away asap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve done accounting for years with a Day-Timer system, and account for every penny.  I don&#8217;t consider restaurants &#8220;Food&#8221; either.  I call that a Miscellaneous expense because it is a luxury, in my view.  Also, Gas has its own category, while CRIM (car repairs, insurance, maintenance) is separate.</p>
<p>The goal is to have complete control/mastery over our money.  However, the best one can do is *almost* complete, because we don&#8217;t decide exactly how much we are going to be charged for things.  We can&#8217;t say no to rent or utilities, and we can only say no to certain grocery items when they are outrageously priced.</p>
<p>The way we do things, we are forced to save.  Some people are incapable of doing that, and instead get tax refunds.  Any expense that can be paid annually vs monthly, we pay annually, like car insurance.  We pay no interest on anything.  We don&#8217;t get tax refunds, and consequently have full control of our income.  It belongs to us, not the government, and we don&#8217;t have to count on them to have our own money to give back to us.  What seems weird to me is that some people getting refunds don&#8217;t seem to realize that it is their money in the first place.  They get the refund and think it is &#8220;free&#8221; money or a bonus.  LOL  And for some reason, they sometimes seem not to respect that money, and they spend it away asap.</p>
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		<title>By: Neal Frankle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neal Frankle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.  Fantastic way to kick the month off.  Budgeting and tracking are the keys to financial success so it only makes sense to start off on this topic.

Great tools and really well presented.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  Fantastic way to kick the month off.  Budgeting and tracking are the keys to financial success so it only makes sense to start off on this topic.</p>
<p>Great tools and really well presented.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Tina Fortune</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina Fortune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article!I am going to try the zero spending day.I&#039;ve been budgeting for years and it works!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!I am going to try the zero spending day.I&#8217;ve been budgeting for years and it works!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making it a game helps motivate you to do certain things. The only bad thing I&#039;d say about &quot;No spend days&quot; is that you often just shift your spending, rather than cut it out. It&#039;s like when the Presidential candidates suggested a day where the gasoline tax would be waived, all it does is shift the purchase of gas to that day, causing headaches and wasted time for everyone (look at Dennys and they were just giving away a breakfast!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making it a game helps motivate you to do certain things. The only bad thing I&#8217;d say about &#8220;No spend days&#8221; is that you often just shift your spending, rather than cut it out. It&#8217;s like when the Presidential candidates suggested a day where the gasoline tax would be waived, all it does is shift the purchase of gas to that day, causing headaches and wasted time for everyone (look at Dennys and they were just giving away a breakfast!).</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adjusting your budget is absolutely crucial, I was like you too. When you set your budget tends to skew it towards certain categories, I set mine in the summer so certain bills were lower. As we went into winter, I saw different expenses rise while others fell. Sometimes I think that a spending limit &quot;range&quot; may be more effective but I haven&#039;t figured out how to make that work yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adjusting your budget is absolutely crucial, I was like you too. When you set your budget tends to skew it towards certain categories, I set mine in the summer so certain bills were lower. As we went into winter, I saw different expenses rise while others fell. Sometimes I think that a spending limit &#8220;range&#8221; may be more effective but I haven&#8217;t figured out how to make that work yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that when you&#039;re sitting at a computer or at a desk, you have the best intentions in mind. You say you&#039;ll budget to the penny, you set restrictive spending limits, and you tell yourself you&#039;ll save 30% because 30% is a really nice figure in your mind (it is a great percentage to save). However, you have to temper that enthusiasm and good intention with a dose of realism and adjust that budget so that you arrive at something that you can achieve without hurting yourself too badly. If you eat out 7 nights a week, it might be a good idea to channel your inner Emeril and try cooking one night. If you&#039;re bad at cooking, trying to cook one night a week is a good thing. It&#039;d be entirely unreasonable to expect you to go from 7 nights of restaurants to 0 nights, so being realistic is crucial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that when you&#8217;re sitting at a computer or at a desk, you have the best intentions in mind. You say you&#8217;ll budget to the penny, you set restrictive spending limits, and you tell yourself you&#8217;ll save 30% because 30% is a really nice figure in your mind (it is a great percentage to save). However, you have to temper that enthusiasm and good intention with a dose of realism and adjust that budget so that you arrive at something that you can achieve without hurting yourself too badly. If you eat out 7 nights a week, it might be a good idea to channel your inner Emeril and try cooking one night. If you&#8217;re bad at cooking, trying to cook one night a week is a good thing. It&#8217;d be entirely unreasonable to expect you to go from 7 nights of restaurants to 0 nights, so being realistic is crucial.</p>
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		<title>By: In The Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>In The Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post. I particularly like that you create statistics and make saving money into a game. I totally agree with making saving a line item instead of passively saving whatever is left over from your budget. It is important to pay yourself first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post. I particularly like that you create statistics and make saving money into a game. I totally agree with making saving a line item instead of passively saving whatever is left over from your budget. It is important to pay yourself first.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that some flexibility is needed in budgeting. It&#039;s all about finding something that works for you -- and that you can stick to! So many people create impossible budgets only to fail. I like the idea of creating something that you can keep with long term. Of course, for a budget to be effective you still have to live within your means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that some flexibility is needed in budgeting. It&#8217;s all about finding something that works for you &#8212; and that you can stick to! So many people create impossible budgets only to fail. I like the idea of creating something that you can keep with long term. Of course, for a budget to be effective you still have to live within your means.</p>
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