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		<title>By: BetterBanon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BetterBanon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 05:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skype is great for computer-to-computer calls.

But I have not been able to navigate through their payment mechanism (moneybookers) to buy time for to call land lines directly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skype is great for computer-to-computer calls.</p>
<p>But I have not been able to navigate through their payment mechanism (moneybookers) to buy time for to call land lines directly.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheap Bastard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheap Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If privacy is any concern, Skype is the only answer apart from more obscure pc to pc crypto solutions.

If privacy doesn&#039;t matter, Google Voice coupled with Gizmo5 (sipphone) is entirely free.  Free to make and receive calls, no setup fee either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If privacy is any concern, Skype is the only answer apart from more obscure pc to pc crypto solutions.</p>
<p>If privacy doesn&#8217;t matter, Google Voice coupled with Gizmo5 (sipphone) is entirely free.  Free to make and receive calls, no setup fee either.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Triton Long distance offers great unlimited dialing plans for people in the 616, 231, and 269 area codes.  They have a local dialing plan that allows you to dial unlimited within those three area codes for only $4.95 a month, or $14.95 for unlimited national calling.  I’ve been using the service for quite some time now and have found it to really cut down on my phone bill.  They have more information about their packages at http://www.tritonld.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Triton Long distance offers great unlimited dialing plans for people in the 616, 231, and 269 area codes.  They have a local dialing plan that allows you to dial unlimited within those three area codes for only $4.95 a month, or $14.95 for unlimited national calling.  I’ve been using the service for quite some time now and have found it to really cut down on my phone bill.  They have more information about their packages at <a href="http://www.tritonld.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tritonld.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband and I call family in the UK quite often and the most affordable option that we&#039;ve found is through Jajah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband and I call family in the UK quite often and the most affordable option that we&#8217;ve found is through Jajah.</p>
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		<title>By: U Avalos</title>
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		<dc:creator>U Avalos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, @Financial Samurai@, skype isn&#039;t always #1. It assumes that the other person has a decent internet connection -- which isn&#039;t always the case. In latin america, where there is no internet, a cheap alternative is for your friends/family to call *you* with their cell phones. They often get 1 or 2 cents a minute for calls to the US. When my wife didn&#039;t have a computer that&#039;s how we got in touch in honduras...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, @Financial Samurai@, skype isn&#8217;t always #1. It assumes that the other person has a decent internet connection &#8212; which isn&#8217;t always the case. In latin america, where there is no internet, a cheap alternative is for your friends/family to call *you* with their cell phones. They often get 1 or 2 cents a minute for calls to the US. When my wife didn&#8217;t have a computer that&#8217;s how we got in touch in honduras&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: daemondust</title>
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		<dc:creator>daemondust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I don&#039;t have any concrete examples to point to and say THIS exchange charges exorbitant connection fees, they tend to be the smaller, rural telephone companies.  Ones that are on the receiving side of the USF (Universal Service Fund, a tax applied to telephone services that goes to the build-out and upkeep of communications infrastructure in rural areas).

A Google search will turn up many articles on it, though many are sparse on information.

The debate was brought up by AT&amp;T to deflect some criticism against them for the whole Apple/AT&amp;T &quot;rejecting&quot; (keeping in an unapproved status) the Google Voice iPhone app.

The crux of the argument is whether Google Voice is a telephone company, and thus mandated to connect to all numbers, no matter what the charge, or more of an overlay service since they do not terminate phone calls, per se, but direct them between existing phone lines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I don&#8217;t have any concrete examples to point to and say THIS exchange charges exorbitant connection fees, they tend to be the smaller, rural telephone companies.  Ones that are on the receiving side of the USF (Universal Service Fund, a tax applied to telephone services that goes to the build-out and upkeep of communications infrastructure in rural areas).</p>
<p>A Google search will turn up many articles on it, though many are sparse on information.</p>
<p>The debate was brought up by AT&amp;T to deflect some criticism against them for the whole Apple/AT&amp;T &#8220;rejecting&#8221; (keeping in an unapproved status) the Google Voice iPhone app.</p>
<p>The crux of the argument is whether Google Voice is a telephone company, and thus mandated to connect to all numbers, no matter what the charge, or more of an overlay service since they do not terminate phone calls, per se, but direct them between existing phone lines.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@daemondust, very interesting. What kind of local exchanges charge high termination fees?

When you sign up for Google Voice, and you go to choose your number, I noticed that all the phone numbers available in my area code were labeled with completely boondock towns that I&#039;d never heard of. In fact, I was afraid that even though they were in the same area code as me, calls to a Google number there might be long distance for people who don&#039;t live close to that town. So I chose a D.C. number, which is a tiny geographic  (yet NOT rural) area code central to the metro area, so I hope longdistance isn&#039;t an issue.

But I digress from the topic at hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@daemondust, very interesting. What kind of local exchanges charge high termination fees?</p>
<p>When you sign up for Google Voice, and you go to choose your number, I noticed that all the phone numbers available in my area code were labeled with completely boondock towns that I&#8217;d never heard of. In fact, I was afraid that even though they were in the same area code as me, calls to a Google number there might be long distance for people who don&#8217;t live close to that town. So I chose a D.C. number, which is a tiny geographic  (yet NOT rural) area code central to the metro area, so I hope longdistance isn&#8217;t an issue.</p>
<p>But I digress from the topic at hand.</p>
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		<title>By: daemondust</title>
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		<dc:creator>daemondust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google Voice doesn&#039;t, however, let you call US numbers that are housed at phone exchanges that charge exorbitant fees to terminate calls.  They do so under the guise of being &#039;rural carriers&#039; who have &#039;higher costs&#039;, but many of them will share part of that increased cost with the call centers, &#039;adult&#039; lines, and conference call lines that terminate there too.

This was one of AT&amp;T&#039;s ploys to distract the FCC&#039;s inquiry about their own bad practices with Google Voice.  They just spun it the other way and asked why Google doesn&#039;t have to play by the same rules they do, even though GV isn&#039;t a phone company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google Voice doesn&#8217;t, however, let you call US numbers that are housed at phone exchanges that charge exorbitant fees to terminate calls.  They do so under the guise of being &#8216;rural carriers&#8217; who have &#8216;higher costs&#8217;, but many of them will share part of that increased cost with the call centers, &#8216;adult&#8217; lines, and conference call lines that terminate there too.</p>
<p>This was one of AT&amp;T&#8217;s ploys to distract the FCC&#8217;s inquiry about their own bad practices with Google Voice.  They just spun it the other way and asked why Google doesn&#8217;t have to play by the same rules they do, even though GV isn&#8217;t a phone company.</p>
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		<title>By: daemondust</title>
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		<dc:creator>daemondust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll second skype.  It isn&#039;t a true phone call, but does the job most of the time.  The girlfriend of one of my coworkers is out of the country for an extended period of time, and they&#039;re using skype to keep in touch.  Best of all, it supports video chat too....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll second skype.  It isn&#8217;t a true phone call, but does the job most of the time.  The girlfriend of one of my coworkers is out of the country for an extended period of time, and they&#8217;re using skype to keep in touch.  Best of all, it supports video chat too&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I checked Google Voice rates with Rebtel on the country I want to call with -- Google was cheaper. Plus, Google Voice calls to Canada and all 50 U.S. states are free. Don&#039;t know about U.S. territories or other +1 country code jurisdictions though. But Voice isn&#039;t meant to be a long distance carrier -- it&#039;s meant to be your new phone number.

That said, I&#039;d highly discourage people from using any service that has fees. Services like Rebtel and Voice are just flat billing with no complicated charges. That&#039;s the way to go (unless you&#039;re on the phone so much that some kind of unlimited plan makes sense to you and VOIP is not an option).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked Google Voice rates with Rebtel on the country I want to call with &#8212; Google was cheaper. Plus, Google Voice calls to Canada and all 50 U.S. states are free. Don&#8217;t know about U.S. territories or other +1 country code jurisdictions though. But Voice isn&#8217;t meant to be a long distance carrier &#8212; it&#8217;s meant to be your new phone number.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;d highly discourage people from using any service that has fees. Services like Rebtel and Voice are just flat billing with no complicated charges. That&#8217;s the way to go (unless you&#8217;re on the phone so much that some kind of unlimited plan makes sense to you and VOIP is not an option).</p>
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		<title>By: troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Austin: Rebtel&#039;s model is that you have a cell or fixed line that you always call from.  The rates are cheap, so you wouldn&#039;t use Rebel in conjunction with a phone card.

So if you don&#039;t own a cell phone or fixed line, then yes, Rebtel wouldn&#039;t work for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Austin: Rebtel&#8217;s model is that you have a cell or fixed line that you always call from.  The rates are cheap, so you wouldn&#8217;t use Rebel in conjunction with a phone card.</p>
<p>So if you don&#8217;t own a cell phone or fixed line, then yes, Rebtel wouldn&#8217;t work for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+10 uniontelecard.com

I&#039;ve used the Mega Clean &amp; Stable Card for the past 3-4 years. Still satisfied. Having no additional connection or maintenance fees is very nice. Also one of my favorite features is the pinless dialing (up to FIVE different numbers!) which is especially useful when you (and family) are constantly on the move.

For the people using rebtel, what do you do if you want to call from a different phone than the one originally registered? It seems like you are only limited to call from one phone number. If that is the case, isn&#039;t that defeating the purpose of getting a phone card(pin)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+10 uniontelecard.com</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve used the Mega Clean &amp; Stable Card for the past 3-4 years. Still satisfied. Having no additional connection or maintenance fees is very nice. Also one of my favorite features is the pinless dialing (up to FIVE different numbers!) which is especially useful when you (and family) are constantly on the move.</p>
<p>For the people using rebtel, what do you do if you want to call from a different phone than the one originally registered? It seems like you are only limited to call from one phone number. If that is the case, isn&#8217;t that defeating the purpose of getting a phone card(pin)?</p>
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		<title>By: Dj Hams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dj Hams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use uniontelecard.com to call Kuwait. I have tried various sites, and Uniontelecard has the fewest &quot;scam/hidden fee&quot; cards. It is hard finding cards to call unpopular countries like Kuwait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use uniontelecard.com to call Kuwait. I have tried various sites, and Uniontelecard has the fewest &#8220;scam/hidden fee&#8221; cards. It is hard finding cards to call unpopular countries like Kuwait.</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Samurai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial Samurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice money saving article.  Skype is #1.

And a totally free option is to just go into some chat room, and chat away!

I love playing Yahoo Spades, so often times when I&#039;m overseas, I&#039;ll tell my loved one to play a game of spades with me in Yahoo Games and we can talk and play at the same time.

And no, we&#039;re not cheating while playing. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice money saving article.  Skype is #1.</p>
<p>And a totally free option is to just go into some chat room, and chat away!</p>
<p>I love playing Yahoo Spades, so often times when I&#8217;m overseas, I&#8217;ll tell my loved one to play a game of spades with me in Yahoo Games and we can talk and play at the same time.</p>
<p>And no, we&#8217;re not cheating while playing. <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like my Skype. :)</description>
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