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		<title>By: daemondust</title>
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		<dc:creator>daemondust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny thing about pre-nups... from talking with lawyers about whether my fiancée and I should have some drafted, a lot of people want one that basically says what the law does about marriage properties without realizing it&#039;s a pointless document.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing about pre-nups&#8230; from talking with lawyers about whether my fiancée and I should have some drafted, a lot of people want one that basically says what the law does about marriage properties without realizing it&#8217;s a pointless document.</p>
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		<title>By: daemondust</title>
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		<dc:creator>daemondust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I give myself an &quot;allowance&quot; for frivolous purchases. How does that make me a child? Yes, you could word it as me budgeting it, but an allowance is a much more fitting term in my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give myself an &#8220;allowance&#8221; for frivolous purchases. How does that make me a child? Yes, you could word it as me budgeting it, but an allowance is a much more fitting term in my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: daemondust</title>
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		<dc:creator>daemondust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a lot of the only-having-join-accounts mentality spurs from the newlyweds going from their parents&#039; houses to their own with very little in between. It&#039;s the same as traditional wedding gifts being household items.

As more and more people have their own extended lives between leaving their parents and getting married this kind of thing will become less and less common.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of the only-having-join-accounts mentality spurs from the newlyweds going from their parents&#8217; houses to their own with very little in between. It&#8217;s the same as traditional wedding gifts being household items.</p>
<p>As more and more people have their own extended lives between leaving their parents and getting married this kind of thing will become less and less common.</p>
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		<title>By: daemondust</title>
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		<dc:creator>daemondust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My fiancée and I both have individual bank accounts, and we have joint. It seems like a pretty good mix so far, and probably won&#039;t change much when we get married.  There&#039;s enough of an age and choice of profession difference that I&#039;m done with school (for now) and she still has another 10 years ahead of her.  We&#039;ll mostly be living off my income for the foreseeable future, so I&#039;m paying the bills and making the budgets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My fiancée and I both have individual bank accounts, and we have joint. It seems like a pretty good mix so far, and probably won&#8217;t change much when we get married.  There&#8217;s enough of an age and choice of profession difference that I&#8217;m done with school (for now) and she still has another 10 years ahead of her.  We&#8217;ll mostly be living off my income for the foreseeable future, so I&#8217;m paying the bills and making the budgets.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 03:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Olivia. My husband and I do the same. I couldn&#039;t have said it better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Olivia. My husband and I do the same. I couldn&#8217;t have said it better.</p>
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		<title>By: rosemarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>rosemarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 01:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the best way to handle finances and to budget expenses. Who should handle finances? It is more recommended to handle it separately if both have strong opinions about money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the best way to handle finances and to budget expenses. Who should handle finances? It is more recommended to handle it separately if both have strong opinions about money?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob O.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 12:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m kinda late to this discussion, but my take is pretty simple:  if you can&#039;t (or just don&#039;t) trust your spouse with your money, why on God&#039;s green Earth would you trust him/her with your life?  Money is fleeting - the other stuff lasts forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m kinda late to this discussion, but my take is pretty simple:  if you can&#8217;t (or just don&#8217;t) trust your spouse with your money, why on God&#8217;s green Earth would you trust him/her with your life?  Money is fleeting &#8211; the other stuff lasts forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 23:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you see from my above post my wife and I do have our Adult Allowance accounts.  We call it our &quot;Private&quot; accounts.  I payed for my pool table and netflix and such from this account.  I will also use this account whenever I put an item on credit.  If I cannot pay off my credit at the end of the month with my &quot;Private&quot; account, then I don&#039;t use the card. 

It is, I think, a healthy way to have &quot;your&quot; money and buy presents without having the other person see where you are shopping.  It also helps us budget our personal fun expenses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you see from my above post my wife and I do have our Adult Allowance accounts.  We call it our &#8220;Private&#8221; accounts.  I payed for my pool table and netflix and such from this account.  I will also use this account whenever I put an item on credit.  If I cannot pay off my credit at the end of the month with my &#8220;Private&#8221; account, then I don&#8217;t use the card. </p>
<p>It is, I think, a healthy way to have &#8220;your&#8221; money and buy presents without having the other person see where you are shopping.  It also helps us budget our personal fun expenses.</p>
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		<title>By: Slinky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to be in the minority here with separate finances. The first thing I want to point out is that it doesn&#039;t mean we don&#039;t work as a team. We both know the others situation, the amount of debt, savings, investments, etc. If he needed help, I&#039;d be right there backing him up, and vice versa. We&#039;re still in this together.

For us, it&#039;s more a matter of &#039;you track your spending and I&#039;ll track mine&#039;. That way neither of us has to figure out what that $7.56 charge from walmart was for. We each have our own budget with vastly different methods. Most of the time, we work on our budgets at the same time and discuss progress, goals, etc. while we work. Just like a joint couple, we work to mesh out joint and individual goals.

Another point is that separate doesn&#039;t mean you don&#039;t trust the other person. It means you trust them in a different way. Joint means you need trust the other to not spend or steal all the money, to stick to a budget together, and to work with you to get things done. Separate means you trust them to be open with you, to manage their money smartly, to be self sufficient, and also to work together to get things done.

I think most people assume that separate means you&#039;re each on your own, but that&#039;s not true. It can, but it shouldn&#039;t. Separate finances can be a symptom of relationship problems, but it&#039;s not the cause. In a solid, healthy relationship, you should be able to use either joint or separate finances without any problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to be in the minority here with separate finances. The first thing I want to point out is that it doesn&#8217;t mean we don&#8217;t work as a team. We both know the others situation, the amount of debt, savings, investments, etc. If he needed help, I&#8217;d be right there backing him up, and vice versa. We&#8217;re still in this together.</p>
<p>For us, it&#8217;s more a matter of &#8216;you track your spending and I&#8217;ll track mine&#8217;. That way neither of us has to figure out what that $7.56 charge from walmart was for. We each have our own budget with vastly different methods. Most of the time, we work on our budgets at the same time and discuss progress, goals, etc. while we work. Just like a joint couple, we work to mesh out joint and individual goals.</p>
<p>Another point is that separate doesn&#8217;t mean you don&#8217;t trust the other person. It means you trust them in a different way. Joint means you need trust the other to not spend or steal all the money, to stick to a budget together, and to work with you to get things done. Separate means you trust them to be open with you, to manage their money smartly, to be self sufficient, and also to work together to get things done.</p>
<p>I think most people assume that separate means you&#8217;re each on your own, but that&#8217;s not true. It can, but it shouldn&#8217;t. Separate finances can be a symptom of relationship problems, but it&#8217;s not the cause. In a solid, healthy relationship, you should be able to use either joint or separate finances without any problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Slinky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it&#039;s a healthy relationship with two responsible adults, yes they would. In my own case, that offer of assistance is implicit and understood. Separate finances is simply another way of managing the books. It doesn&#039;t mean that the couple is any less of a team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s a healthy relationship with two responsible adults, yes they would. In my own case, that offer of assistance is implicit and understood. Separate finances is simply another way of managing the books. It doesn&#8217;t mean that the couple is any less of a team.</p>
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		<title>By: Slinky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll give a non-answer to your question and say that it should be whatever the couple can agree and be happy with.

That said, we split everything 50/50. I like it, because I have a bit of a hang up for always being responsible for myself and pulling my own weight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll give a non-answer to your question and say that it should be whatever the couple can agree and be happy with.</p>
<p>That said, we split everything 50/50. I like it, because I have a bit of a hang up for always being responsible for myself and pulling my own weight.</p>
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		<title>By: Slinky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are the only one I&#039;ve ever heard of to share this view with me! The only difference is the direction the money flows. Otherwise, it works out the same. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are the only one I&#8217;ve ever heard of to share this view with me! The only difference is the direction the money flows. Otherwise, it works out the same. <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So glad you commented Ann - I was beginning to think we were the only ones with 2nd marriage / older couple in the mix.  When I married, it was my first, his 2nd marriage.  Two kids by previous marriage, he was responsible for full support, since X refused to work. In the divorce, she got all the assets, he got all the debts, with the exception of his pension. I owned my own company and had for years, so I had my own assets.  With complicated financials, we had good reasons for wanting to keep our finances legally separate.  We chose a his/hers/ours system that by pre-nup agreement kept certain assets out of the marital pot. It worked fine for us.

We split the financial responsibilities.  I&#039;m responsible for keeping the household budget and making sure we&#039;re within it, since I&#039;m usually the one buying stuff.  He does the monthly checkbook balancing.  I track the overall portfolio performance and manage that, while he does most of the stock research. We both agree on budgets and portfolio allocation. 

Twenty years later, both our kids are in college (paid for by us, since X still won&#039;t pay for anything), and I&#039;ve retired from the business.  We&#039;re in a different place now, and when we move in a few months, we&#039;re going to be consolidating accounts to make things a bit simpler.  I&#039;ll still keep a separate small account and one credit card, since those pre-date my marriage and I&#039;ve had older female relatives learn the hard way that women&#039;s credit disappears in marriage if you don&#039;t keep something separate active. I use the personal account for internet purchases (so if anyone gets the account info they don&#039;t have access to very much money) and little things.  

Separate finances worked for us for a long time.  I think combining finances will work for us as well.  The key doesn&#039;t seem to be how many or how few accounts you have, it&#039;s whether you can agree to live within your means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So glad you commented Ann &#8211; I was beginning to think we were the only ones with 2nd marriage / older couple in the mix.  When I married, it was my first, his 2nd marriage.  Two kids by previous marriage, he was responsible for full support, since X refused to work. In the divorce, she got all the assets, he got all the debts, with the exception of his pension. I owned my own company and had for years, so I had my own assets.  With complicated financials, we had good reasons for wanting to keep our finances legally separate.  We chose a his/hers/ours system that by pre-nup agreement kept certain assets out of the marital pot. It worked fine for us.</p>
<p>We split the financial responsibilities.  I&#8217;m responsible for keeping the household budget and making sure we&#8217;re within it, since I&#8217;m usually the one buying stuff.  He does the monthly checkbook balancing.  I track the overall portfolio performance and manage that, while he does most of the stock research. We both agree on budgets and portfolio allocation. </p>
<p>Twenty years later, both our kids are in college (paid for by us, since X still won&#8217;t pay for anything), and I&#8217;ve retired from the business.  We&#8217;re in a different place now, and when we move in a few months, we&#8217;re going to be consolidating accounts to make things a bit simpler.  I&#8217;ll still keep a separate small account and one credit card, since those pre-date my marriage and I&#8217;ve had older female relatives learn the hard way that women&#8217;s credit disappears in marriage if you don&#8217;t keep something separate active. I use the personal account for internet purchases (so if anyone gets the account info they don&#8217;t have access to very much money) and little things.  </p>
<p>Separate finances worked for us for a long time.  I think combining finances will work for us as well.  The key doesn&#8217;t seem to be how many or how few accounts you have, it&#8217;s whether you can agree to live within your means.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife &amp; I came from different situations. Her parents have separate accounts, whereas my parents have a joint account. We&#039;ve been using a joint account and it works out well with a planned budget and monthly reviews. We looked at going to a separate system once or twice, but it just isn&#039;t practical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife &amp; I came from different situations. Her parents have separate accounts, whereas my parents have a joint account. We&#8217;ve been using a joint account and it works out well with a planned budget and monthly reviews. We looked at going to a separate system once or twice, but it just isn&#8217;t practical.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 02:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My boyfriend &amp; I have each been married to &amp; divorced from spouses with significantly different financial styles.

We live together in &#039;my&#039; house and share expenses, but keep our accounts separate. I have less income, but no debt. He is self-employed and has debt related to his divorce &amp; business.

I pay certain expenses &amp; he pays others, each from our own accounts. I don&#039;t know that I could ever totally combine finances, or whether he could for that matter, even if we were to marry someday.

It is not a matter of trusting HIM, rather not trusting the law to protect me. Living in a community property state and having been stuck with my ex-husband&#039;s debt, I will always be cautious about handling my own finances. 

What we are doing works for us at this point, and when it doesn&#039;t we can make a change, if needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My boyfriend &amp; I have each been married to &amp; divorced from spouses with significantly different financial styles.</p>
<p>We live together in &#8216;my&#8217; house and share expenses, but keep our accounts separate. I have less income, but no debt. He is self-employed and has debt related to his divorce &amp; business.</p>
<p>I pay certain expenses &amp; he pays others, each from our own accounts. I don&#8217;t know that I could ever totally combine finances, or whether he could for that matter, even if we were to marry someday.</p>
<p>It is not a matter of trusting HIM, rather not trusting the law to protect me. Living in a community property state and having been stuck with my ex-husband&#8217;s debt, I will always be cautious about handling my own finances. </p>
<p>What we are doing works for us at this point, and when it doesn&#8217;t we can make a change, if needed.</p>
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