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		<title>By: DaveB</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/landlines-are-a-waste-almost.html/comment-page-1#comment-329791</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our landline bill is under $30 a month, and generally closer to $25. Because my wife&#039;s family is in Canada, there aren&#039;t any cell plans with long-distance that would make a cell-phone worth while.

Our total phone bill consists of our land-line, a pre-paid cell-phone that is mostly used like a pager two calling cards for cheap minutes in the states and to Canada.

Our yearly bills are definitely lower than what my wife used to pay for her cell-phone service before we got married, and we don&#039;t have to worry about if we are overstepping our limits on the number of minutes.  We even have the convenience of having both a home line and an emergency cell-phone at our disposal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our landline bill is under $30 a month, and generally closer to $25. Because my wife&#8217;s family is in Canada, there aren&#8217;t any cell plans with long-distance that would make a cell-phone worth while.</p>
<p>Our total phone bill consists of our land-line, a pre-paid cell-phone that is mostly used like a pager two calling cards for cheap minutes in the states and to Canada.</p>
<p>Our yearly bills are definitely lower than what my wife used to pay for her cell-phone service before we got married, and we don&#8217;t have to worry about if we are overstepping our limits on the number of minutes.  We even have the convenience of having both a home line and an emergency cell-phone at our disposal.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying to think how much a lan-line would be worth to me. I don&#039;t think I&#039;d even pay $5 a month ($60 a year) for one. Maybe $2, but even that&#039;s a stretch. As a 25-year-old male, I think it&#039;s fairly common for my demographic. 

I&#039;ve been a cell-phone only kid since college, since I move a lot. It&#039;s not a cheap plan - $35 a month - but the added mobility is worth it. Having both is redundant.  Plus the only people that call on my parents LAN line are spam solicitors and political polls anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to think how much a lan-line would be worth to me. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d even pay $5 a month ($60 a year) for one. Maybe $2, but even that&#8217;s a stretch. As a 25-year-old male, I think it&#8217;s fairly common for my demographic. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a cell-phone only kid since college, since I move a lot. It&#8217;s not a cheap plan &#8211; $35 a month &#8211; but the added mobility is worth it. Having both is redundant.  Plus the only people that call on my parents LAN line are spam solicitors and political polls anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: NickFro</title>
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		<dc:creator>NickFro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is at least one company out there that does central alarm system monitoring via the Internet. They provide a relabeled Cisco VoIP adapter which connects to one of several dozen supported alarm systems and monitor that way. Their in-house brand even provides real time monitoring via a web interface and allows for remote control of the system. Of course, if your internet connection drops, the central station won&#039;t get any signals, so it&#039;s not perfect... but it works and allows you to continue to forgo the expense of a landline...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is at least one company out there that does central alarm system monitoring via the Internet. They provide a relabeled Cisco VoIP adapter which connects to one of several dozen supported alarm systems and monitor that way. Their in-house brand even provides real time monitoring via a web interface and allows for remote control of the system. Of course, if your internet connection drops, the central station won&#8217;t get any signals, so it&#8217;s not perfect&#8230; but it works and allows you to continue to forgo the expense of a landline&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My office manager keeps a land line for her 3 year old daughter, who hasn&#039;t memorized their home address (they&#039;ve moved numerous times in the past 2 years anyways). With a land line, they instantly know your address. Not true with cell. Anyways, she knows how to dial 911, but doesn&#039;t know what to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My office manager keeps a land line for her 3 year old daughter, who hasn&#8217;t memorized their home address (they&#8217;ve moved numerous times in the past 2 years anyways). With a land line, they instantly know your address. Not true with cell. Anyways, she knows how to dial 911, but doesn&#8217;t know what to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Funny about Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funny about Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup. I have DSL because I can&#039;t afford cable--to get it, you have to bundle in TV services that I wouldn&#039;t use. I&#039;m just too cheap to pay for a hundred channels with nothing worth watching, and besides, I hardly ever have time to watch television anyway. 

The land line is cheap, and I know it will function when the dratted cell phone doesn&#039;t. Long-distance calls are very inexpensive--nothing compared to even the most basic cell phone service--and there&#039;s no limit after which you get gouged extra per-minute fees. A land-line phone doesn&#039;t have a battery to run down, and when you dial 911, someone answers promptly (not so, I&#039;ve found, with the cell!!) and the dispatcher knows where you are. When the phone rings you can hear it and find it. You&#039;re not likely to lose it or have it stolen. And it doesn&#039;t follow you around jangling at you when you&#039;re in a car or trying to have dinner at a nice restaurant. 

If you&#039;re not into texting or yakking about your personal business in public, a cell phone is a weak alternative to a land line. The only reason I have one is that I have a long commute over freeways and pay telephones are no longer widely available--I felt I was forced to get a cell for safety reasons, to be able to call for help if my car breaks down. If I worked closer to home, I wouldn&#039;t have one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup. I have DSL because I can&#8217;t afford cable&#8211;to get it, you have to bundle in TV services that I wouldn&#8217;t use. I&#8217;m just too cheap to pay for a hundred channels with nothing worth watching, and besides, I hardly ever have time to watch television anyway. </p>
<p>The land line is cheap, and I know it will function when the dratted cell phone doesn&#8217;t. Long-distance calls are very inexpensive&#8211;nothing compared to even the most basic cell phone service&#8211;and there&#8217;s no limit after which you get gouged extra per-minute fees. A land-line phone doesn&#8217;t have a battery to run down, and when you dial 911, someone answers promptly (not so, I&#8217;ve found, with the cell!!) and the dispatcher knows where you are. When the phone rings you can hear it and find it. You&#8217;re not likely to lose it or have it stolen. And it doesn&#8217;t follow you around jangling at you when you&#8217;re in a car or trying to have dinner at a nice restaurant. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not into texting or yakking about your personal business in public, a cell phone is a weak alternative to a land line. The only reason I have one is that I have a long commute over freeways and pay telephones are no longer widely available&#8211;I felt I was forced to get a cell for safety reasons, to be able to call for help if my car breaks down. If I worked closer to home, I wouldn&#8217;t have one.</p>
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		<title>By: fred@opc</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred@opc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We recently signed up for the FIOS 3-in-1 service - not quite as reliable as a traditional landline, but it has a 7-day battery backup and is way more reliable than a cell.  I like having 911 for the kids&#039; sake (were you thinking of me, Jim?)  

Cell phone batteries die and cell phones get lost -- a few seconds in an emergency can be worth a lot - and a landline can give you that few seconds back. 

I do think that traditional phone service companies are going to need to get more competitive pricing; but at 30 bucks a month or so, I think its well worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We recently signed up for the FIOS 3-in-1 service &#8211; not quite as reliable as a traditional landline, but it has a 7-day battery backup and is way more reliable than a cell.  I like having 911 for the kids&#8217; sake (were you thinking of me, Jim?)  </p>
<p>Cell phone batteries die and cell phones get lost &#8212; a few seconds in an emergency can be worth a lot &#8211; and a landline can give you that few seconds back. </p>
<p>I do think that traditional phone service companies are going to need to get more competitive pricing; but at 30 bucks a month or so, I think its well worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JASON - Who are you going to call with your landline in an emergency, when all of the rest of us have cell phones?

KEVIN - I have DirecTV and am not required to have a landline. No extra charge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JASON &#8211; Who are you going to call with your landline in an emergency, when all of the rest of us have cell phones?</p>
<p>KEVIN &#8211; I have DirecTV and am not required to have a landline. No extra charge.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a landline because my wife won&#039;t let me get rid of it.  Just the line and caller-id (plus the multitude of taxes) is about $33/mo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a landline because my wife won&#8217;t let me get rid of it.  Just the line and caller-id (plus the multitude of taxes) is about $33/mo</p>
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		<title>By: saladdin</title>
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		<dc:creator>saladdin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRCA1 I am with you.

Except I do not have a cell phone (and have never owned one) or a landline. I have never had this &quot;emergency&quot; I keep hearing about or have ever had trouble getting in touch with someone if I needed to. But everyone&#039;s living situation is different.

I have people at work complain about their bills as they text on their $100 a month phone that they paid $300 for.

Cell phones are one of the things I hear people try to justify when talking about &quot;bills&quot; that they just have to have.


saladdin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRCA1 I am with you.</p>
<p>Except I do not have a cell phone (and have never owned one) or a landline. I have never had this &#8220;emergency&#8221; I keep hearing about or have ever had trouble getting in touch with someone if I needed to. But everyone&#8217;s living situation is different.</p>
<p>I have people at work complain about their bills as they text on their $100 a month phone that they paid $300 for.</p>
<p>Cell phones are one of the things I hear people try to justify when talking about &#8220;bills&#8221; that they just have to have.</p>
<p>saladdin</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I old-fashioned, out-of-touch or what? I don&#039;t live with a phone hanging off my ear. I don&#039;t waste my time texting the world. Our family pays about $100/month on communications/Internet costs. We have a basic landline for 911, local calls &amp; power failures. We have DSL, and use Skype and cellphones for long distance calls. I have no intentions of getting FIOS as we are not TV nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I old-fashioned, out-of-touch or what? I don&#8217;t live with a phone hanging off my ear. I don&#8217;t waste my time texting the world. Our family pays about $100/month on communications/Internet costs. We have a basic landline for 911, local calls &amp; power failures. We have DSL, and use Skype and cellphones for long distance calls. I have no intentions of getting FIOS as we are not TV nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do not carry cell phones, savings ~$100 a month. Therefore we have a landline ~$25/month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do not carry cell phones, savings ~$100 a month. Therefore we have a landline ~$25/month.</p>
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		<title>By: BRCA1</title>
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		<dc:creator>BRCA1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I can&#039;t be that old?!  I don&#039;t own a cell phone and haven&#039;t found a reason to get one yet.  I&#039;m either at home or work or traveling to one of those places, in which case someone can leave me a message.  I figure I don&#039;t need the hassle of one more item to deal with.  In fact a day doesn&#039;t go by that I don&#039;t hear or read someone complaining about their cell phone company.  True, the same could be said of Bellsouth/At&amp;t landlines but I guess I&#039;ll stick with the devil I know. Oh and I have DSL and my landline costs $30-35/month and I&#039;m 30yrs old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I can&#8217;t be that old?!  I don&#8217;t own a cell phone and haven&#8217;t found a reason to get one yet.  I&#8217;m either at home or work or traveling to one of those places, in which case someone can leave me a message.  I figure I don&#8217;t need the hassle of one more item to deal with.  In fact a day doesn&#8217;t go by that I don&#8217;t hear or read someone complaining about their cell phone company.  True, the same could be said of Bellsouth/At&amp;t landlines but I guess I&#8217;ll stick with the devil I know. Oh and I have DSL and my landline costs $30-35/month and I&#8217;m 30yrs old.</p>
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		<title>By: Eden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went years without a landline when I lived in an apartment near the center of town (great cell coverage). Since moving to a house, a fair distance out of town, cell coverage is very inconsistent and sparse and ditching the land line is not an option at all. It&#039;s amazing to me how poor cell phone coverage can still be after all of these years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went years without a landline when I lived in an apartment near the center of town (great cell coverage). Since moving to a house, a fair distance out of town, cell coverage is very inconsistent and sparse and ditching the land line is not an option at all. It&#8217;s amazing to me how poor cell phone coverage can still be after all of these years.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Lasher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Lasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Addendum . . .

A quick web crawl reveals that Dish Network charges $5/mo if you don&#039;t connect the satellite receiver to a land line.  They do this so that they can determine for sure whether all of the receivers under your account are, in fact, under your roof (they check the caller ID when the receiver calls in once a month) and not under the roof of friends/family, thus cheating them out of subscription revenue.

PPV can still be ordered on-line or by phone, but they charge an additional fee per PPV event, in order to help encourage you to enable this check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Addendum . . .</p>
<p>A quick web crawl reveals that Dish Network charges $5/mo if you don&#8217;t connect the satellite receiver to a land line.  They do this so that they can determine for sure whether all of the receivers under your account are, in fact, under your roof (they check the caller ID when the receiver calls in once a month) and not under the roof of friends/family, thus cheating them out of subscription revenue.</p>
<p>PPV can still be ordered on-line or by phone, but they charge an additional fee per PPV event, in order to help encourage you to enable this check.</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you live in apartment with anyone (room mate, significant other, etc) and the main door buzzes to a phone line.

If you live by yourself of course, you could use your cell phone number, but when you&#039;re sharing an apartment you need a land line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you live in apartment with anyone (room mate, significant other, etc) and the main door buzzes to a phone line.</p>
<p>If you live by yourself of course, you could use your cell phone number, but when you&#8217;re sharing an apartment you need a land line.</p>
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