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		<title>By: Punchy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Punchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 01:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get a 100% match on 2.5% but I have to contribute 5% of my paycheck to get the full match.  No profit sharing, no bonuses, and no stocks (it is a private company).  Oh and there&#039;s a 5 year vesting period.  Doesn&#039;t sound like a company that has gross revenues approaching 500 million / year, does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get a 100% match on 2.5% but I have to contribute 5% of my paycheck to get the full match.  No profit sharing, no bonuses, and no stocks (it is a private company).  Oh and there&#8217;s a 5 year vesting period.  Doesn&#8217;t sound like a company that has gross revenues approaching 500 million / year, does it?</p>
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		<title>By: debttodreams</title>
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		<dc:creator>debttodreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 04:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as a medical Resident we have no match and I was not even eligible for a retirement plan through our hospital.  I had to contribute to an IRA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a medical Resident we have no match and I was not even eligible for a retirement plan through our hospital.  I had to contribute to an IRA.</p>
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		<title>By: Micah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 15:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the military, we have no match in the TSP (a 401k) while our civil service counterparts do.  Of course, we have free healthcare and from what I hear, a decent pension to boot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the military, we have no match in the TSP (a 401k) while our civil service counterparts do.  Of course, we have free healthcare and from what I hear, a decent pension to boot!</p>
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		<title>By: allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 15:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No match, 10% profit sharing, vesting after 5 years.  I&#039;m pretty sure your buddy at DCF is one of my colleagues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No match, 10% profit sharing, vesting after 5 years.  I&#8217;m pretty sure your buddy at DCF is one of my colleagues.</p>
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		<title>By: Foobarista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foobarista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 00:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work at a tech startup, and while I have a 401K that I max out for tax purposes, there is no match at all.  Fortunately, our CEO was relatively careful picking the plan so we have a decent set of index funds to invest in. Previous startups I&#039;ve worked at typically have a bunch of overpriced garbage funds.

In those case, I parked my cash in the MM fund and waited until I lobbied for new funds (worked once) or until I went elsewhere.

The main benefit is the options and restricted stock I get as an early-stage employee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work at a tech startup, and while I have a 401K that I max out for tax purposes, there is no match at all.  Fortunately, our CEO was relatively careful picking the plan so we have a decent set of index funds to invest in. Previous startups I&#8217;ve worked at typically have a bunch of overpriced garbage funds.</p>
<p>In those case, I parked my cash in the MM fund and waited until I lobbied for new funds (worked once) or until I went elsewhere.</p>
<p>The main benefit is the options and restricted stock I get as an early-stage employee.</p>
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		<title>By: eROCK</title>
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		<dc:creator>eROCK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 18:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work for a Fortune 100 in the Northeast and we get a 5% match on a 6% contribution.  Except that the match can&#039;t be more then $1,200 ... hows that for a buzz kill? 

I&#039;m looking into another job that provides no match, but grants restricted stock offerings and also a bonus.  I guess if I role the bonus into a Roth IRA, that&#039;s my match :-)  Yea, Yea, it&#039;s post-tax, but what can you do!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for a Fortune 100 in the Northeast and we get a 5% match on a 6% contribution.  Except that the match can&#8217;t be more then $1,200 &#8230; hows that for a buzz kill? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking into another job that provides no match, but grants restricted stock offerings and also a bonus.  I guess if I role the bonus into a Roth IRA, that&#8217;s my match <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Yea, Yea, it&#8217;s post-tax, but what can you do!?</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 03:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh really? I remember something but not the exact topic... and here I thought this sort of thing was all my idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh really? I remember something but not the exact topic&#8230; and here I thought this sort of thing was all my idea.</p>
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		<title>By: MossySF</title>
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		<dc:creator>MossySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 02:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in a small company so we use the safe harbor option to avoid end-of-year plan testing. Hence, it&#039;s the basic 100% match on the first 3% and 50% on the next 2%. Total of 4% matching if you contribute 5% of your salary. Choice of funds are ok -- good choices in large cap and bonds, decent in small cap, crappy choices in international and reit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in a small company so we use the safe harbor option to avoid end-of-year plan testing. Hence, it&#8217;s the basic 100% match on the first 3% and 50% on the next 2%. Total of 4% matching if you contribute 5% of your salary. Choice of funds are ok &#8212; good choices in large cap and bonds, decent in small cap, crappy choices in international and reit.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 01:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>100% match on the first 5% contribution. New employees get immediate vesting, but I have to wait until my 3 year anniversary (at the end of this month, thank God) to get it. Plus the choice of funds to invest in is pretty lousy.

I&#039;ll be glad to get out of this place. Three years is too long for anyone in my field to stay at one employer unless they hold significant stock options (&quot;signigicant&quot;==&quot;worth more than two years&#039; salary&quot;) or are part of the executive team. Plus, since they made me switch to the 2000-0400 shift (away from my preferred 2300-0700) I haven&#039;t talked to any of my friends or professional contacts...the network it took me 15 years to build has been all but destroyed in six months.

Funny, I have this memory of promising our host that I&#039;d write a guest post about this subject. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100% match on the first 5% contribution. New employees get immediate vesting, but I have to wait until my 3 year anniversary (at the end of this month, thank God) to get it. Plus the choice of funds to invest in is pretty lousy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be glad to get out of this place. Three years is too long for anyone in my field to stay at one employer unless they hold significant stock options (&#8221;signigicant&#8221;==&#8221;worth more than two years&#8217; salary&#8221;) or are part of the executive team. Plus, since they made me switch to the 2000-0400 shift (away from my preferred 2300-0700) I haven&#8217;t talked to any of my friends or professional contacts&#8230;the network it took me 15 years to build has been all but destroyed in six months.</p>
<p>Funny, I have this memory of promising our host that I&#8217;d write a guest post about this subject. <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 00:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s crazy! I work for a LDC and I get (a lousy) 3% match on my &quot;savings plan&quot; (dunno why they don&#039;t say 401K).  Also crazy, I dragged a friend named Jim into a humorously competitve 401K conversation at a bar last Saturday night!

In all seriousness, I need to figure out how said LDC&#039;s pension works... they don&#039;t like to make this stuff simple, do they?

Of the above three, given just the information you presented, I&#039;d take the DCF.  Money is money, baby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s crazy! I work for a LDC and I get (a lousy) 3% match on my &#8220;savings plan&#8221; (dunno why they don&#8217;t say 401K).  Also crazy, I dragged a friend named Jim into a humorously competitve 401K conversation at a bar last Saturday night!</p>
<p>In all seriousness, I need to figure out how said LDC&#8217;s pension works&#8230; they don&#8217;t like to make this stuff simple, do they?</p>
<p>Of the above three, given just the information you presented, I&#8217;d take the DCF.  Money is money, baby!</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 23:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well folks, working for a newly IPO&#039;d company means that I have no employer match on my 401K.  Fun stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well folks, working for a newly IPO&#8217;d company means that I have no employer match on my 401K.  Fun stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: broknowrchlatr</title>
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		<dc:creator>broknowrchlatr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 21:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mine is pretty standard and boring.   Full match up to 4% then nothing after that. 

Pension is also included.   It will roughly come out to 45% of my total compensation at retirement.

Both are immediatly 100% vested.  So, even if I leave the company after a few years, I can qualify for a couple thousand bucks a year at retirement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mine is pretty standard and boring.   Full match up to 4% then nothing after that. </p>
<p>Pension is also included.   It will roughly come out to 45% of my total compensation at retirement.</p>
<p>Both are immediatly 100% vested.  So, even if I leave the company after a few years, I can qualify for a couple thousand bucks a year at retirement.</p>
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		<title>By: KMC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 19:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My company&#039;s plan is pretty good I think.  100% match on first 8% and a variable 2-3% at the end of the year (they decide the amount).  I think the vesting is a cliff at 3 years.  I&#039;m not sure since I&#039;ve been here a while.  And like Mapgirl, they have a true-up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My company&#8217;s plan is pretty good I think.  100% match on first 8% and a variable 2-3% at the end of the year (they decide the amount).  I think the vesting is a cliff at 3 years.  I&#8217;m not sure since I&#8217;ve been here a while.  And like Mapgirl, they have a true-up.</p>
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		<title>By: mapgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>mapgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 18:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh heh. This will be fun since I work private sector, totally not government related, but in the same metropolitan area, so the same job market.

We get 50% employer match for the first 5% of salary contributed, so it is maxed at 2.5% of your income. That&#039;s not great unless you negotiate yourself a good salary at the outset. (Which everyone is, RIGHT?)

Vesting schedule is 1 year = 20%, 2 years = 60% 3+ years = 100%.

We also get a True-up contribution if contributions were front-loaded, but they are lagged by 3 months. But that&#039;s better than losing the match on the last few paychecks of the year because of front-loading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh heh. This will be fun since I work private sector, totally not government related, but in the same metropolitan area, so the same job market.</p>
<p>We get 50% employer match for the first 5% of salary contributed, so it is maxed at 2.5% of your income. That&#8217;s not great unless you negotiate yourself a good salary at the outset. (Which everyone is, RIGHT?)</p>
<p>Vesting schedule is 1 year = 20%, 2 years = 60% 3+ years = 100%.</p>
<p>We also get a True-up contribution if contributions were front-loaded, but they are lagged by 3 months. But that&#8217;s better than losing the match on the last few paychecks of the year because of front-loading.</p>
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		<title>By: dong</title>
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		<dc:creator>dong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 18:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m at a large energy company and pretty pleased with the 401k the company offers
6% match on my contributions
3% fixed profit sharing
0-7% variable profit sharing

On average because I contribute the full 15%, I usually end up getting almost another full 15% just from the company.  No complaints other than the 5 year cliff vesting, but since I&#039;m past that i can&#039;t complain about that either....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m at a large energy company and pretty pleased with the 401k the company offers<br />
6% match on my contributions<br />
3% fixed profit sharing<br />
0-7% variable profit sharing</p>
<p>On average because I contribute the full 15%, I usually end up getting almost another full 15% just from the company.  No complaints other than the 5 year cliff vesting, but since I&#8217;m past that i can&#8217;t complain about that either&#8230;.</p>
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