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		<title>By: cubiclegeoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>cubiclegeoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d follow the advice of Warren Buffet, buy when others are selling, sell when others are buying.  Considering how rich he is, I think he has a good idea of what he&#039;s doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d follow the advice of Warren Buffet, buy when others are selling, sell when others are buying.  Considering how rich he is, I think he has a good idea of what he&#8217;s doing.</p>
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		<title>By: cdiver</title>
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		<dc:creator>cdiver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The risk is worth the gamble to many looking for higher returns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The risk is worth the gamble to many looking for higher returns.</p>
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		<title>By: ephilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>ephilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s amazing is that after people lossed 50,000 in the market, people still would rather invest.  I don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s amazing is that after people lossed 50,000 in the market, people still would rather invest.  I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 20:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your take on investing extra money on the stock markets as opposed to adding extra to one&#039;s mortgage payment.  I agree that the profit-margin will be greater even with low-risk stock investments because the difference in percentages (11% vs. 6%).  Good advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your take on investing extra money on the stock markets as opposed to adding extra to one&#8217;s mortgage payment.  I agree that the profit-margin will be greater even with low-risk stock investments because the difference in percentages (11% vs. 6%).  Good advice.</p>
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		<title>By: OtherFactors</title>
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		<dc:creator>OtherFactors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another factor to consider is the tax value of a mortage vs the lost interest in paying off the mortgage. Just like the relief of not having to write a check every month for a car payment, there is a relief to having your home paid for and not owned by the banksters, even if owned by the state via property taxes and eminent domain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another factor to consider is the tax value of a mortage vs the lost interest in paying off the mortgage. Just like the relief of not having to write a check every month for a car payment, there is a relief to having your home paid for and not owned by the banksters, even if owned by the state via property taxes and eminent domain.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An option to pay down your mortgage early, without ANY additional money is to sign up for a  bi-monthly payment plan.  It wasn&#039;t available when we got our mortgage, but is now offered.  It cost us $300 to sign up, but other than that initial cost our place will be paid off 4.7 years faster; and no additional cash.  We might however throw in a $100 dollars a month once our emergency account is lifted by another $10k or so; that would drive down the pay off as well.  And, did I mention that this is already a 15 year loan?  That mortgage interest deduction is only worth 30-40%, you&#039;re still paying money to the bank; which is money down the hole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An option to pay down your mortgage early, without ANY additional money is to sign up for a  bi-monthly payment plan.  It wasn&#8217;t available when we got our mortgage, but is now offered.  It cost us $300 to sign up, but other than that initial cost our place will be paid off 4.7 years faster; and no additional cash.  We might however throw in a $100 dollars a month once our emergency account is lifted by another $10k or so; that would drive down the pay off as well.  And, did I mention that this is already a 15 year loan?  That mortgage interest deduction is only worth 30-40%, you&#8217;re still paying money to the bank; which is money down the hole.</p>
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		<title>By: Jmes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If for instance you have a million pounds now at your disposal what is the first step that you would take ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If for instance you have a million pounds now at your disposal what is the first step that you would take ?</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diversification is the key.  Evaluate your own situation and diversify your assets.  I am 95% in the stock market - so it was an easy decision to pay off my mortgage early.  Its been great to be completely debt free, not even a mortgage payment, for the last 2 years!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diversification is the key.  Evaluate your own situation and diversify your assets.  I am 95% in the stock market &#8211; so it was an easy decision to pay off my mortgage early.  Its been great to be completely debt free, not even a mortgage payment, for the last 2 years!</p>
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		<title>By: dong</title>
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		<dc:creator>dong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Alex on this, most people already have too much tied to real estate as a portion of their porfolio.   I think real estate can be great investment, but I bet alot of people who are putting extra into the their mortgage are likely people who are not putting enough into other types of &quot;riskier&quot; investments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Alex on this, most people already have too much tied to real estate as a portion of their porfolio.   I think real estate can be great investment, but I bet alot of people who are putting extra into the their mortgage are likely people who are not putting enough into other types of &#8220;riskier&#8221; investments.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 23:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with the diversication argument. Most people (myself included) already have far too much of our assets in real estate. 

For instance, I have roughly 50K in home equity in the house I own, combined with 50K in other investments, thus 50% of my assets are invested in one item of real estate, talk about a lack of diversity! I need a lesser percentage to be in my house for diversity purposes, not a greater percentage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the diversication argument. Most people (myself included) already have far too much of our assets in real estate. </p>
<p>For instance, I have roughly 50K in home equity in the house I own, combined with 50K in other investments, thus 50% of my assets are invested in one item of real estate, talk about a lack of diversity! I need a lesser percentage to be in my house for diversity purposes, not a greater percentage.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One great thing about long term debt is that inflation has a longer time to work on it.  Yes, you are paying more in interest, but the payments are increasingly less in real terms. At 3% inflation, your payments in the last year of a 30 year mortgage are just 42% of the nominal value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One great thing about long term debt is that inflation has a longer time to work on it.  Yes, you are paying more in interest, but the payments are increasingly less in real terms. At 3% inflation, your payments in the last year of a 30 year mortgage are just 42% of the nominal value.</p>
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		<title>By: wanzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>wanzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing to consider is the aspect of liquidity. When you pay down the mortgage, you do get that guaranteed return. But one thing is, what if you have an emergency, you need a new car, or something like that? Then you must use a home equity loan to get at the funds you have been putting into reducing your mortgage. On the other hand, if you just make you normal payments and invest the rest into something else, in times of need (or want) you will be able to pull the money out, usually just by paying trading costs. 

My main point here is that paying down the mortgage or investing in something both create an asset for you. However, in my opinion I would want an asset that I would easily be able to put to work. If the extra money was tied up in the house, it might be a longer, more costly process to get the money if/when I needed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing to consider is the aspect of liquidity. When you pay down the mortgage, you do get that guaranteed return. But one thing is, what if you have an emergency, you need a new car, or something like that? Then you must use a home equity loan to get at the funds you have been putting into reducing your mortgage. On the other hand, if you just make you normal payments and invest the rest into something else, in times of need (or want) you will be able to pull the money out, usually just by paying trading costs. </p>
<p>My main point here is that paying down the mortgage or investing in something both create an asset for you. However, in my opinion I would want an asset that I would easily be able to put to work. If the extra money was tied up in the house, it might be a longer, more costly process to get the money if/when I needed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man and Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazy Man and Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The stock market doesn’t return 11% year in and year out, it returns that average over many many years.&quot;

When you say &quot;many many years&quot;, would you say that 30 years would be enough - the typical mortgage length?  

If so, then what about say 25?  At that point you could pull the money out around then and pay off your mortage with it.  I know, the stock market could crash at that year 25.  In that case, maybe you&#039;d want to take some of that money out of the market every 5 years (if the market has done well) and take the guarenteed pay off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The stock market doesn’t return 11% year in and year out, it returns that average over many many years.&#8221;</p>
<p>When you say &#8220;many many years&#8221;, would you say that 30 years would be enough &#8211; the typical mortgage length?  </p>
<p>If so, then what about say 25?  At that point you could pull the money out around then and pay off your mortage with it.  I know, the stock market could crash at that year 25.  In that case, maybe you&#8217;d want to take some of that money out of the market every 5 years (if the market has done well) and take the guarenteed pay off.</p>
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		<title>By: Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s already been hit on, but I repeat it.  Mortgage interest is deductible, and some stock market gain (dividends, turnover, etc.) is taxable.  So add up the numbers for your given situation.

What you might find is that while one is better than the other, it might be marginal.  This is kinda like rate chasing with online savings accounts.  Oooh, an extra 0.05%???  Yes, its financially better, but as Michael mentioned, there might be other considerations.  Simplicity of life might be one of them.  Maybe its just *easier* to pay down the mortage instead of making ~$100 extra each year.  The old saying, &quot;time is money&quot; too.

Also, someone people just don&#039;t like being in debt.  They might prefer to pay down the mortgage just for peace of mind.

Anyway, my main point is run the numbers as accurately as possible and if the difference is small, go with what makes you happier.  That may or may not be the strict &quot;financial&quot; answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s already been hit on, but I repeat it.  Mortgage interest is deductible, and some stock market gain (dividends, turnover, etc.) is taxable.  So add up the numbers for your given situation.</p>
<p>What you might find is that while one is better than the other, it might be marginal.  This is kinda like rate chasing with online savings accounts.  Oooh, an extra 0.05%???  Yes, its financially better, but as Michael mentioned, there might be other considerations.  Simplicity of life might be one of them.  Maybe its just *easier* to pay down the mortage instead of making ~$100 extra each year.  The old saying, &#8220;time is money&#8221; too.</p>
<p>Also, someone people just don&#8217;t like being in debt.  They might prefer to pay down the mortgage just for peace of mind.</p>
<p>Anyway, my main point is run the numbers as accurately as possible and if the difference is small, go with what makes you happier.  That may or may not be the strict &#8220;financial&#8221; answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree w/ the diversification plan.  I add an extra $150 to my mortgage each month, and invest the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree w/ the diversification plan.  I add an extra $150 to my mortgage each month, and invest the rest.</p>
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