Comments on: Power-Save 1200: Recapture Your Electricity Line Loss?

By: Chip2

Chip2 — Sat, 01 Oct 2011 15:31:06 +0000

Here is a video showing both amps AND watts savings by improving the power factor.

“Power Factor Correction Explanation”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPFKcUxbNuQ&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLFBB05BC34CFA9473

By: Chip2

Chip2 — Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:43:38 +0000

Oops…wrong video. Here is the correct one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPFKcUxbNuQ&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLFBB05BC34CFA9473

By: Chip2

Chip2 — Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:41:01 +0000

A few posters are saying that saving amps is not saving watts. Here is a video I just found demonstrating the savings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S22cJ_aF9M&feature=BFa&list=PLFBB05BC34CFA9473&lf=results_main

Check out my post from 2009 showing my “KILOWATT” savings from my monthly bills using the Powersave 1200. I’ve saved thousands of dollars in just 3 years.

Again, trying to use a stop watch to time a few revolations of the meter to extrapolate an entire billing cycle or year is totally pointless.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/mcennis3/Cleco-Comparison.jpg

By: Ang

Ang — Wed, 24 Nov 2010 20:09:33 +0000

Bottom line Energy Star was not informed about how the system works, so I taught them and now there is no site!

good luck with your arguements now!

I CAN’t break down the science small enough to spoon feed it to you nor do I have the time to teach you about Hysteresis Losses, Skin-Effect Losses, Porximity Effect Losses,Transformer Losses, Line Losses, Stator Losses, Core Losses, & Eddy-Current Losses.

It works!

By: Sven Sjostrom

Sven Sjostrom — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:13:15 +0000

Absolutely Thorendan. Concepts, ideas and theories are constantly changing. What was Ok yesterday is not OK today because …someone said so…and then its reversed again next year. If the product works for individuals then that is all they need. If it reduces their bills as it said it would then thats a good thing for the consumer and the environment. Anyway with a 60 day money back gaurantee thats all you need to know to give it a try. At the very least it is making people aware of energy consumption…and that alone is a good thing. I will leave all the calculations and debates to others while I reep the rewards from the results. Giving me more time to think about how I can change my energy saving behaviour as well.

By: Thorendan

Thorendan — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:52:45 +0000

Thank you for the website, but just a thought. How many times have scientists and analysts told us one thing one day and proved themselves wrong the next day. Again, I appreciate your information, but I have a friend who has benefitted from the savings (I left another post about him), so I am about to break down and buy it. If it does not work, well darn, I will not be able to buy that new office chair I wanted. LOL. God Bless

By: Thorendan

Thorendan — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:49:25 +0000

John and many others,
With all due respect to all the math and studies and government websites and theories, my friend has been trying to get me to buy a PowerSave1200 for 2 years and I have been studying and just putting it off. BUT, here is the bottom line: My friend’s older, not very well insulated home has seen very significant reduction in overall kilowatt usage. The use of this unit in his 2000 sq.ft home has saved him around 8%, this is what I have been told. He is a retired Science Teacher and has done everything from machinist, to geologist, to assistant professor, to retiring as a public school teacher and has all but his dissertation toward having a doctorate. In other words, smart people can throw out all of the theories, if it works. The measure that counts is in the change in kilowatt usage. I know for a fact that money is not the issue with my friend, it is the miserliness of trying to see if he can squeeze a little more efficiency (it is a game for him) and he is a converted, true believer. Well, time for me to ‘gamble’ and buy this product. As many have said, if you do not see a result, return it or at least you have ‘stimulated’ someone’s economy by buying their product (tongue in cheek).

Thanks to everyone for all the posting, good and bad. I learned a lot.

By: John

John — Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:11:29 +0000

This sums it up for me.

http://www.nist.gov/eeel/quantum/power_121509.cfm

By: Rick

Rick — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:23:27 +0000

The easiest way to accomplish this is to locate properly sized units on the load itself. By measuring the KVAR you can determine the proper capacitors. By locating them on the load they are only operating when the load is engaged. Therefore you do not have to have different capacitor “BANKS” for different loads, or high cost capacitor banks that adjust to the size of the load. Capacitor banks benefit the electric company more than the consumer. By locating units closest to the load you also maximize the line loss savings.

By: Paul

Paul — Tue, 22 Jun 2010 23:26:31 +0000

Power factor correction has been around since shortly after commercial alternating current was developed. Big industrial consumers save tons by installing capacitors to correct the power factor back to 1. The trick is knowing how much capacitance to add to balance the inductance of the motors and other coils. Maybe the answer is to turn it off in the coldest months when resistance heat is the greatest load. Or maybe it should have winter/summer switch to switch out part of the capacitance when loads are more resistive.

By: agmonaco

agmonaco — Tue, 18 May 2010 16:23:07 +0000

Double Trouble… How did you measure the watt usage per minute?

By: double trouble

double trouble — Mon, 17 May 2010 20:54:04 +0000

I have been an electrician for 25 years. I installed a ps1200 1 month ago. I have not gotten my bill yet ,but I do suspect it works and here is why. Mine instantly slowed the meter down. My meter went from 310 watts per minute with the unit off to 270. Nobody was home except me, I repeated the test several times with the unit off and on. similar results. That should be an 8% savings. I will post when my bill comes.

By: Jack Brodowski

Jack Brodowski — Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:24:30 +0000

I am a journeyman electrician with 43 years of electrical work – plants,businesses, homes. My first reaction to the power save 1200 was BAH Humbug! But since I was retired and had the notion that I wanted to help people by selling and installing something in the Green movement, I investigated the product by installing one. I can honestly say the product works – I cannot argue with success. I have seen my power usage lowered (compared same month to same month with the previous years usage from my power company records.) Anyone who criticizes this product without trying it has no basis to judge. I put my money where my mouth is – let’s see you do the same! A satisfied Power Save 1200 user.

By: JL

JL — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:48:36 +0000

Wow… There’s a company man for ya.
First, Ethics is the decision made to do the right thing based on one’s moral values, not what a corporation with the soul interests of money being in mind, with the ability to cut even your department loose at any time to “save money on the bottom line to appeal to the share holders” as they so often put it – which is also what they teach you in Ethics courses in colleges throughout America, and Ethics is required as one of the many base-prerequisites for a degree of any kind, which means if you boast of all the knowledge on paper that you do, you should be knowledgeable in the area of Ethics and how they are applied. So to say that it is unethical in any way is just flat out ridiculous as it appears your moral and ethical responses are based on religious principles that could be argued, just as all others.
Second, I’m a lineman who has been granted permission by my superiors to use the product in exchange for the denial of raises across the board while increasing our billable rates per kWh. What the website doesn’t tell you is that if you go through the proper channels (ethical/moral? imagine that…), you may get your wish depending on how you present your problem.
Third, I’ve had the EnergyWise system installed in my home for over 3 years now, whereas this little device-I’ve only had for 14 months. The line-loads have decreased in my area due to foreclosures, which means the EnergyWise system is not needed nor triggered nearly as often as it was in the past, and I’ve still noticed a decrease over a 12 month period in the 14 months of having this device installed. So you trying to make a point on this in specific is completely invalid.

By: Steve

Steve — Tue, 06 Apr 2010 20:15:35 +0000

I installed this last year and did notice a reduction in my bill. Connecting an amp meter at the feed, I calculated a reduction of 6.48% amp reduction with the Power Saver 1200 on vs. the off position. Based on my rate of .12/kwh and average usage, the unit pays back in just about a year, not including the energy tax credit. Considering the energy credit, the unit started saving me money upon installation. The 6.48% was not the 20+ percent savings advertised, but when i checked the difference in usage just on my a/c unit, the savings approached 22%, but remember what we really care about is the savings on our entire bill, not just a single system. I am sold on the technology.