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		<title>By: a.b.</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/rent-apartment-or-buy-mobile-home-and-resell.html/comment-page-1#comment-327997</link>
		<dc:creator>a.b.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I know someone who parlayed a fixer manufactured home into a nice fixer bungalow into a very nice home. And they weren&#039;t hillbillys. It is not always low income housing as many parks I know are actually more expensive then the rent on my apartment. This gentleman needs an actual answer to his question based on sound facts not bias and social stigma.

The rates are higher if it is in a manufactured home park as it is not considered a fixed residence (personal loan rates would apply).

The problem is there isn&#039;t enough information to give a solid answer. Is it a manufactured or mobile home *huge difference? Will it be parked in a MH park or does that price include land? What are the income tax benefits? If there was more details it would be easier to do a breakdown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I know someone who parlayed a fixer manufactured home into a nice fixer bungalow into a very nice home. And they weren&#8217;t hillbillys. It is not always low income housing as many parks I know are actually more expensive then the rent on my apartment. This gentleman needs an actual answer to his question based on sound facts not bias and social stigma.</p>
<p>The rates are higher if it is in a manufactured home park as it is not considered a fixed residence (personal loan rates would apply).</p>
<p>The problem is there isn&#8217;t enough information to give a solid answer. Is it a manufactured or mobile home *huge difference? Will it be parked in a MH park or does that price include land? What are the income tax benefits? If there was more details it would be easier to do a breakdown.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 19:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your going to buy and then try to sell latter. Then I could say don&#039;t buy.  But if you do all your homework on the home, and the place where your going to live, because some places ARE much bstter then others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your going to buy and then try to sell latter. Then I could say don&#8217;t buy.  But if you do all your homework on the home, and the place where your going to live, because some places ARE much bstter then others.</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 12:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... I&#039;ve been considering a mobile home purchase-- not sure yet, but giving it some thought; my ex husband and I owned one when we lived in California (about a 5 min walk from the beach) ... in 1993, we purchased it for 61,000. We sold it for 73,000 in Jan of 2001... so it appreciated 12,000 dollars in  7 1/2 years. Anyone care to comment on how? We used a service that buys properties outright, so we didnt even go the agent route which might have scored us a bit more profit-- but then again, who knows. We divorced, and I received my 36,500 part ... a nice walk away out of a divorce at least.

I am now reconsidering-- buying a mobile home cheaply and investing in repairs and upgrades. If nothing else, if I invest money into its upkeep it will at least maintain its value --- long enough for me to get some money back from my rent and go from there.... EVERYTHING is a risk... as for the stignma of mobile homes-- yes I hear ya on that-- it CAN be embarrasing but the fact remains there are some that look more like homes and if you are making a profit YOU will be the one laughing-- ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK! lmao

Good luck out there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; I&#8217;ve been considering a mobile home purchase&#8211; not sure yet, but giving it some thought; my ex husband and I owned one when we lived in California (about a 5 min walk from the beach) &#8230; in 1993, we purchased it for 61,000. We sold it for 73,000 in Jan of 2001&#8230; so it appreciated 12,000 dollars in  7 1/2 years. Anyone care to comment on how? We used a service that buys properties outright, so we didnt even go the agent route which might have scored us a bit more profit&#8211; but then again, who knows. We divorced, and I received my 36,500 part &#8230; a nice walk away out of a divorce at least.</p>
<p>I am now reconsidering&#8211; buying a mobile home cheaply and investing in repairs and upgrades. If nothing else, if I invest money into its upkeep it will at least maintain its value &#8212; long enough for me to get some money back from my rent and go from there&#8230;. EVERYTHING is a risk&#8230; as for the stignma of mobile homes&#8211; yes I hear ya on that&#8211; it CAN be embarrasing but the fact remains there are some that look more like homes and if you are making a profit YOU will be the one laughing&#8211; ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK! lmao</p>
<p>Good luck out there!</p>
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		<title>By: Gary In TN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary In TN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heck, with all the stereotypes being thrown out here, I can&#039;t help but respond. (removes his wad of tobacco and spits).

I purchased a new &quot;double wide&quot; mobile home (still has the frames, but no wheels) for $86,000.  Financed it for 30 years, but making bi-weekly payments, so it will be paid for in 16 years and 5 months.  Payments run $751 per month on the bi-weekly plan.

I had this 32&#039;x70&#039; (2240 sq.ft.) home set on land I bought (1.88 acres) in the country here in East Tennessee (hillbilly heaven).

Make all the jokes you like, but since we don&#039;t have an income tax, 9.725% sales tax, low, low property tax, I will be way ahead of the game than from those of you that are acting so high and mighty.

My home will be paid for long before retirement, with alot less interest having been paid, less taxes and much less stress than those of you that think living in or near a big city with outrageous land, home and tax rates is the way to go.

I have traveled in my work to every state except North and South Dakota and would not wish to live anywhere but here. (puts back in his chaw of tobacco, grabs his barefoot pregnant wife and tells the coon dogs to get in the truck).

I expected so much more out of this group.
Gary In TN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heck, with all the stereotypes being thrown out here, I can&#8217;t help but respond. (removes his wad of tobacco and spits).</p>
<p>I purchased a new &#8220;double wide&#8221; mobile home (still has the frames, but no wheels) for $86,000.  Financed it for 30 years, but making bi-weekly payments, so it will be paid for in 16 years and 5 months.  Payments run $751 per month on the bi-weekly plan.</p>
<p>I had this 32&#8242;x70&#8242; (2240 sq.ft.) home set on land I bought (1.88 acres) in the country here in East Tennessee (hillbilly heaven).</p>
<p>Make all the jokes you like, but since we don&#8217;t have an income tax, 9.725% sales tax, low, low property tax, I will be way ahead of the game than from those of you that are acting so high and mighty.</p>
<p>My home will be paid for long before retirement, with alot less interest having been paid, less taxes and much less stress than those of you that think living in or near a big city with outrageous land, home and tax rates is the way to go.</p>
<p>I have traveled in my work to every state except North and South Dakota and would not wish to live anywhere but here. (puts back in his chaw of tobacco, grabs his barefoot pregnant wife and tells the coon dogs to get in the truck).</p>
<p>I expected so much more out of this group.<br />
Gary In TN</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 09:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mobile homes are profitable, because tornadoes and such are attracted to them so they are in constant need...but i digress.

seriously, retirement communities have some expensive mobile homes and they do appreciate.  so let&#039;s not group all mobile homes in the category of tornado shacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mobile homes are profitable, because tornadoes and such are attracted to them so they are in constant need&#8230;but i digress.</p>
<p>seriously, retirement communities have some expensive mobile homes and they do appreciate.  so let&#8217;s not group all mobile homes in the category of tornado shacks.</p>
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		<title>By: sbd</title>
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		<dc:creator>sbd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bk</title>
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		<dc:creator>bk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If buying and selling mobiles homes is so profitable, why aren&#039;t more people besides hillbillys doing it?  Oh, thats because its not and its low income housing.  Besides, his math sounds completely wrong. It is difficult (impossible?) to get a 30 year fixed mortgage on a mobile home, and the rates are awful on a manufactured home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If buying and selling mobiles homes is so profitable, why aren&#8217;t more people besides hillbillys doing it?  Oh, thats because its not and its low income housing.  Besides, his math sounds completely wrong. It is difficult (impossible?) to get a 30 year fixed mortgage on a mobile home, and the rates are awful on a manufactured home.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like everybody is saying no, so I will try something different.

Let&#039;s say you can get over this &#039;social stigma&#039;.  Let us also say you can sell the place for what you purchased it for in three years - a flat real estate market.  Assuming your mortage/taxes/maintenance/etc were the same as your current rent, then you would be even in three years.  (I do understand your math was a bit off earlier though).  With all that said, there are still the income tax benefits to consider.  This could be your clincher.  You might sit down and figure out what you expect to actually get out of the deal after a said time period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like everybody is saying no, so I will try something different.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say you can get over this &#8217;social stigma&#8217;.  Let us also say you can sell the place for what you purchased it for in three years &#8211; a flat real estate market.  Assuming your mortage/taxes/maintenance/etc were the same as your current rent, then you would be even in three years.  (I do understand your math was a bit off earlier though).  With all that said, there are still the income tax benefits to consider.  This could be your clincher.  You might sit down and figure out what you expect to actually get out of the deal after a said time period.</p>
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		<title>By: plonkee</title>
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		<dc:creator>plonkee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why, if they depreciate by so much, you wouldn&#039;t just by a second-hand one in the first place. The maths has got to be better for that, surely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why, if they depreciate by so much, you wouldn&#8217;t just by a second-hand one in the first place. The maths has got to be better for that, surely.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the topic of manufactured vs. mobile, I recognize he said manufactured first but then he called it a mobile home so I assumed he meant mobile home. There is a definite difference between a manufactured home and a mobile one but I think the reader confused the two and meant mobile so I ran with that.

On the topic of his math, I didn&#039;t actually check it and took it at face value (I was lazy). I thought his assumptions were so wrong that even if the math were correct (which it appears it wasn&#039;t) it wouldn&#039;t have helped.

I&#039;ll endeavor not to be lazy next time, it was a softball of a math question too... that&#039;s what happens when you come back after a week off. Thanks everyone for crunching the numbers for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the topic of manufactured vs. mobile, I recognize he said manufactured first but then he called it a mobile home so I assumed he meant mobile home. There is a definite difference between a manufactured home and a mobile one but I think the reader confused the two and meant mobile so I ran with that.</p>
<p>On the topic of his math, I didn&#8217;t actually check it and took it at face value (I was lazy). I thought his assumptions were so wrong that even if the math were correct (which it appears it wasn&#8217;t) it wouldn&#8217;t have helped.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll endeavor not to be lazy next time, it was a softball of a math question too&#8230; that&#8217;s what happens when you come back after a week off. Thanks everyone for crunching the numbers for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i shouldn&#039;t say low income areas.  I know the town I grew up in, there was a mobile park neighborhood that appreciated due to the proximity of other neighborhoods and eventually the mobile home area became a non mobile home area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i shouldn&#8217;t say low income areas.  I know the town I grew up in, there was a mobile park neighborhood that appreciated due to the proximity of other neighborhoods and eventually the mobile home area became a non mobile home area.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, the logic in this person&#039;s mind is all wrong.  the amount paid on the mortgage isn&#039;t all towards principle either, most is on interest, so there is no way you recoup $36.  Going into something like this with the intent on being upside down on a mortgage is also troubling.  aside from the other fees, you are looking at nearly $90k upside down on the mortgage which the person still owes.  given the equity in the house would only be about $17k after 3 years once you take the interest out, you are still upside down $73k.

even if you take the really fuzzy math, and say somehow we can ignore interest, fees, taxes, laws of math, etc, you somehow recoup $36k towards principle and get $80k for the house.  This still would mean you would owe $54k just in principle.

There are no silly questions, and I hope I didn&#039;t sound too harsh, but...

i will disagree about mobile homes depreciating and being a bad investment.  It really depends on the market.  In retirement communities, mobile homes can appreciate significantly.  In other low income housing areas, mobile homes can also appreciate.

also, there is a difference between manufactured homes and mobile homes.  There are some quite expensive manufactured homes these days.  there are also ones which appreciate.  Depends on the market as always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, the logic in this person&#8217;s mind is all wrong.  the amount paid on the mortgage isn&#8217;t all towards principle either, most is on interest, so there is no way you recoup $36.  Going into something like this with the intent on being upside down on a mortgage is also troubling.  aside from the other fees, you are looking at nearly $90k upside down on the mortgage which the person still owes.  given the equity in the house would only be about $17k after 3 years once you take the interest out, you are still upside down $73k.</p>
<p>even if you take the really fuzzy math, and say somehow we can ignore interest, fees, taxes, laws of math, etc, you somehow recoup $36k towards principle and get $80k for the house.  This still would mean you would owe $54k just in principle.</p>
<p>There are no silly questions, and I hope I didn&#8217;t sound too harsh, but&#8230;</p>
<p>i will disagree about mobile homes depreciating and being a bad investment.  It really depends on the market.  In retirement communities, mobile homes can appreciate significantly.  In other low income housing areas, mobile homes can also appreciate.</p>
<p>also, there is a difference between manufactured homes and mobile homes.  There are some quite expensive manufactured homes these days.  there are also ones which appreciate.  Depends on the market as always.</p>
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		<title>By: tlange</title>
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		<dc:creator>tlange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 04:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mobile homes are a bad investment, they depreciate like a car and no one wants them... If faced with the same choice, I would rather rent than pour money into something I would be stuck with forever.  At least while renting, I can leave when the lease is up and go somewhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mobile homes are a bad investment, they depreciate like a car and no one wants them&#8230; If faced with the same choice, I would rather rent than pour money into something I would be stuck with forever.  At least while renting, I can leave when the lease is up and go somewhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: vpat</title>
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		<dc:creator>vpat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 04:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have clearly miscalculated the mortgage game, here how it works 
For first few years you pay more interest than principal amount, so you cannot deduct $36,000 for first 3 years it may be less then 10,000 $ . Plus you have to add the land fee and taxes, insurance etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have clearly miscalculated the mortgage game, here how it works<br />
For first few years you pay more interest than principal amount, so you cannot deduct $36,000 for first 3 years it may be less then 10,000 $ . Plus you have to add the land fee and taxes, insurance etc.</p>
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		<title>By: thc</title>
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		<dc:creator>thc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 01:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A manufactured home and a mobile home are two entirely different things.  Which is it really?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A manufactured home and a mobile home are two entirely different things.  Which is it really?</p>
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