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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know he meant share &#039;an&#039; apartment, no need to be a jerk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know he meant share &#8216;an&#8217; apartment, no need to be a jerk.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Grivette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Grivette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How exactly does one &quot;share and apartment&quot;? That makes no sense at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How exactly does one &#8220;share and apartment&#8221;? That makes no sense at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The smartest thing you can do is have patience.  If you are, for example, able to live with a relative, share and apartment with a friend, or some other arrangement where you can really save a lot of your income, then buying a house with cash is the smartest thing you can do.  If, for example, you buy a 165K home on a 30 year mortgage, 5.5% interest, the total interest will end up costing you $172,267.   If you are able to refinance to a lower rate or shorter term, you will be able to reduce that amount, but it is difficult.  Why not save and without stressing yourself in the long run buy with either a larger down payment or in full.  Americans want everything now and disregard the smart approach.  This is my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The smartest thing you can do is have patience.  If you are, for example, able to live with a relative, share and apartment with a friend, or some other arrangement where you can really save a lot of your income, then buying a house with cash is the smartest thing you can do.  If, for example, you buy a 165K home on a 30 year mortgage, 5.5% interest, the total interest will end up costing you $172,267.   If you are able to refinance to a lower rate or shorter term, you will be able to reduce that amount, but it is difficult.  Why not save and without stressing yourself in the long run buy with either a larger down payment or in full.  Americans want everything now and disregard the smart approach.  This is my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever heard of inflation?  What&#039;s 3% interest when we have 20% inflation.  Get your money out of dollars or lose it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever heard of inflation?  What&#8217;s 3% interest when we have 20% inflation.  Get your money out of dollars or lose it.</p>
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		<title>By: pcallaghan</title>
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		<dc:creator>pcallaghan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is pretty good advice... I&#039;m currently closing on my own personal property, a single family - got it for same price as most townhomes in the area.  Next step is multi-family or townhome place for an income/rental property.  One of the guys I coach hockey with has numerous ones and they were thinking of cashing out of one, they did most of the hard work already and the tenants are there and have been for many years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pretty good advice&#8230; I&#8217;m currently closing on my own personal property, a single family &#8211; got it for same price as most townhomes in the area.  Next step is multi-family or townhome place for an income/rental property.  One of the guys I coach hockey with has numerous ones and they were thinking of cashing out of one, they did most of the hard work already and the tenants are there and have been for many years.</p>
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		<title>By: Dahc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dahc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, RCG,
homeowners DO NOT OWN THEIR HOMES THE BANKS DO. IS THIS NOT CLEAR??? Unless you can pay cash outright and buy your home, you are basically a renter at the mercy of banks, even if you do so-called &quot;own&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, RCG,<br />
homeowners DO NOT OWN THEIR HOMES THE BANKS DO. IS THIS NOT CLEAR??? Unless you can pay cash outright and buy your home, you are basically a renter at the mercy of banks, even if you do so-called &#8220;own&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dahc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dahc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,

You are so correct. Peter Schiff had published a report that renters have more wealth than homeowners. And I know people myself who have been renting for years on top of years and are very well, healthy and happy. Homeownership has always been a myth and scam as we have found out with the housing bubble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,</p>
<p>You are so correct. Peter Schiff had published a report that renters have more wealth than homeowners. And I know people myself who have been renting for years on top of years and are very well, healthy and happy. Homeownership has always been a myth and scam as we have found out with the housing bubble.</p>
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		<title>By: Dahc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dahc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks RCG im clearly in your corner on this. It makes perfect sense. And most of the folks on here thats talking about buying are not factoring in the economy right now, inflation or possibly hyperinflation in the near future. And interestingly enough the owners are the ones losing their homes right now, not the renters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks RCG im clearly in your corner on this. It makes perfect sense. And most of the folks on here thats talking about buying are not factoring in the economy right now, inflation or possibly hyperinflation in the near future. And interestingly enough the owners are the ones losing their homes right now, not the renters.</p>
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		<title>By: Dahc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dahc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you A Recent College Graduate, I dont think alot of people are looking at homeownership as a huge debt which it is in fact. Our society makes it seem blissful to own a home when in fact is just a way for the lenders and banks to profit from the home owner and still own their home at the same time. If I get a home, it will be cash, other than this, I will rent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you A Recent College Graduate, I dont think alot of people are looking at homeownership as a huge debt which it is in fact. Our society makes it seem blissful to own a home when in fact is just a way for the lenders and banks to profit from the home owner and still own their home at the same time. If I get a home, it will be cash, other than this, I will rent.</p>
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		<title>By: Dahc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dahc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Stan, this is the very truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Stan, this is the very truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Dahc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dahc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna

You have said a mouth-full. I had mentioned something similar in an early comment. Even as an owner, you are still renting. We can convince ourselves that we are not, but you are renting from the mortgage lender and banks, we really dont own anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna</p>
<p>You have said a mouth-full. I had mentioned something similar in an early comment. Even as an owner, you are still renting. We can convince ourselves that we are not, but you are renting from the mortgage lender and banks, we really dont own anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Dahc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dahc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real Estate Bubble Hater,

My fiancee and i was thinking exactly like that. We were deciding if it was a good idea to buy or rent and then use the extra money to invest in something...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real Estate Bubble Hater,</p>
<p>My fiancee and i was thinking exactly like that. We were deciding if it was a good idea to buy or rent and then use the extra money to invest in something&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dahc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dahc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kaye,

Your sentiment are mine exactly. I and my fiancee are thinking of renting a home instead of buying. We just don&#039;t feel comfortable with the market/economy right now. As we have seen, owning is not such a protection after all. And people are delusional to think that just because you &quot;own&quot; a house that its yours. Truth be told, we don&#039;t &quot;own&quot; anything. Even when paying a mortgage, you are still &quot;renting&quot; the space from your mortgage lender and banks. Your house becomes collateral against debt, and there are no guarantees that you will even hold on to it, not to mention a lot of headaches that come with it. As a matter of fact, Peter Schiff in one of his reports said that renters are wealthier than owners, and i believe that. You just don&#039;t get all the headaches as you do owning, especially now. And we&#039;ve been doing a lot of research and most economist are dead set against buying a home right now, they are suggesting to rent instead of buying, which is reinforcing our idea of renting right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kaye,</p>
<p>Your sentiment are mine exactly. I and my fiancee are thinking of renting a home instead of buying. We just don&#8217;t feel comfortable with the market/economy right now. As we have seen, owning is not such a protection after all. And people are delusional to think that just because you &#8220;own&#8221; a house that its yours. Truth be told, we don&#8217;t &#8220;own&#8221; anything. Even when paying a mortgage, you are still &#8220;renting&#8221; the space from your mortgage lender and banks. Your house becomes collateral against debt, and there are no guarantees that you will even hold on to it, not to mention a lot of headaches that come with it. As a matter of fact, Peter Schiff in one of his reports said that renters are wealthier than owners, and i believe that. You just don&#8217;t get all the headaches as you do owning, especially now. And we&#8217;ve been doing a lot of research and most economist are dead set against buying a home right now, they are suggesting to rent instead of buying, which is reinforcing our idea of renting right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Houses do typically depreciate, since they&#039;re getting older and more worn. It&#039;s land that appreciates, since the population keeps growing and concentrating itself into the temperate, fun areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Houses do typically depreciate, since they&#8217;re getting older and more worn. It&#8217;s land that appreciates, since the population keeps growing and concentrating itself into the temperate, fun areas.</p>
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		<title>By: The Skog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Skog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would not most Americans be better off if real estate prices never returned to the bubble prices?

I&#039;m not relying on any statistics or economics education - just intuition. I recall my parents selling a house in the 1960s and being grateful that they didn&#039;t lose too much compared to their purchase price - kind of like when one sells their car. That always seemed to me to be better for people. A new house would cost more than a resale. A resale house might sell for more if it had been improved in some way. Most houses would depreciate to some extent. That seems like that would keep housing affordable and stop the unrealistic notion that one&#039;s shelter is also one&#039;s retirement plan.

For your house to also be a good investment, you have to either sell it and move to something less expensive to get the money, or take out a loan for some of the equity and pay interest on that loan. I don&#039;t know why anyone thinks that&#039;s good for most Americans.

Because people do believe that, a lot of people have become dependent on real estate as an industry. Of course, it is painful for them now with prices and employment related to real estate down, but wouldn&#039;t we all better off if it stayed that way? Don&#039;t all of these artificial attempts to reinvigorate that part of the economy just invite more of the same bad results? Let&#039;s go back to manufacturing things we can export.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would not most Americans be better off if real estate prices never returned to the bubble prices?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not relying on any statistics or economics education &#8211; just intuition. I recall my parents selling a house in the 1960s and being grateful that they didn&#8217;t lose too much compared to their purchase price &#8211; kind of like when one sells their car. That always seemed to me to be better for people. A new house would cost more than a resale. A resale house might sell for more if it had been improved in some way. Most houses would depreciate to some extent. That seems like that would keep housing affordable and stop the unrealistic notion that one&#8217;s shelter is also one&#8217;s retirement plan.</p>
<p>For your house to also be a good investment, you have to either sell it and move to something less expensive to get the money, or take out a loan for some of the equity and pay interest on that loan. I don&#8217;t know why anyone thinks that&#8217;s good for most Americans.</p>
<p>Because people do believe that, a lot of people have become dependent on real estate as an industry. Of course, it is painful for them now with prices and employment related to real estate down, but wouldn&#8217;t we all better off if it stayed that way? Don&#8217;t all of these artificial attempts to reinvigorate that part of the economy just invite more of the same bad results? Let&#8217;s go back to manufacturing things we can export.</p>
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