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Second Economic Stimulus Check: Obama’s Economic Plan
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The Make Work Pay tax credit will put $400 ($800 for couples) into your pocket and was passed in the recovery and reinvestment plan.
1/15: The Committee on Appropriations just released the an executive summery of the details of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan.
Update 10/21: Bernanke recently endorsed a stimulus package and new life has been given to the prospects of a second stimulus package.
Update: Looks like there’s been more movement on another stimulus check. I wouldn’t hold my breath but it’s a step past campaign fodder.
The ink hasn’t even dried on the first economic stimulus checks mailed out last month and this month and there’s already talk of another stimulus package that would include a second stimulus check, tax breaks for the middle class and seniors, as well as debt relief for students. It’s the first economic salvo fired by Democratic Presidential presumptive nominee Barack Obama this week in a speech at the North Carolina State Fairgrounds [full text of that speech]. In his speech, he briefly discussed long term goals but focused on the short term ones, including a second economic stimulus check.
Second Stimulus Check: $50 Billion
The idea of a second economic stimulus check (who can say no to another stimulus check?)is obviously what most people latched onto (though there were no details in the speech itself) and it was the first thing he mentioned in the short term plan.
That’s why I’ve called for another round of fiscal stimulus, an immediate $50 billion to help those who’ve been hit hardest by this economic downturn – Americans who have lost their jobs, their homes, and are facing rising costs and cutbacks in state and local services like education and health care. We need to expand unemployment benefits and extend them for those who can’t find another job right away – especially since the long-term unemployment rate is nearly twice as high as it was during the last recession. And we must help the millions of homeowners who are facing foreclosure through no fault of their own. [Page 3 of speech]
The other things mentioned in that piece is a 13-week (or more) extension to unemployment benefits, a $10 billion Foreclosure Prevention Fund (which would include a credit of 10% of their mortgage interest payment every year), as well as changes to the mortgage industry to include a Home Score system that helps consumers compare mortgage offers and assess payback ability.
Middle Class & Senior Tax Relief
Page 5 goes into, after railing on McCain, how he’ll slash of corporate tax breaks, close tax loopholes, and begin windfall taxing oil companies to help pay for middle class tax cuts. $1,000 of relief for approximately 95% of workers and families, paid for by the windfall profits of Exxon Mobil. His plan also called for the elimination of income taxes for retirees that earn less than $50,000 a year and raising the Social Security tax cap, without changing the retirement age or privatizing Social Security.
There are several more subjects in the speech, such as a Credit Card Bill of Rights and revamping bankruptcy laws, but we’ll have to wait until next week for details on some of the more long term economic plans. Stay tuned…
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Give honor where it’s due. Pray for our country and the people who serves it. Haven’t there been enough blaming from the past 8 years? People need to “PRAY” and seek God’s face and hand, then and only then will this situation turn around.
i agree with bill also we ant seen nothing yet ok you need to be worrying about what the bible says and geuss what were living in the last days some people think the bibles a lie well read the last chapter of it and see if now it dont makes sense to you were living in the last days people wake up and start thinking about were you wonta spend eternaty!!!!!!!!!!!!!
illegal imigrants will come out here and apply for a job the same time your feeling out your application. and they will get it quicker than you will, and your an AMERICAN. THAT GOES TO SHOW YOU HOW MUCH OUR PRESIDENTS CARES FOR HIS AMERICANS!!!!!!!!
Maybe we should put Colin in charge of our economy, he sure seems to know it all, or at least he thinks.
OK now I am not saying I voted for him but Obama does have some good plans for taxes and stuff IF HE FOLLOWS THROUGH I do think as a family of 3 I have one son and husband and we after taxes dont make 30,000 a yr! We are not even middle class now to me someone who has NEVER had over 30 thou a yr 250,000 sounds like a heck of a lot of money and if you dont have any money when u make that much u got problems! Now if I understood correctly he was going to raise taxes for people that make 250,000 a yr and lower us lower class people”s” taxes I am sorry if you are a lil greedy but I personally think that is very fair!!! even if he didnt raise our taxes whats it gonna hurt to take out a little more taxes when your rich? And I personally think stimulas check is a great idea before Christmas otherwise my son wont get much now I know you that make plenty of money thinkn its a bad idea WELL GOOD SEND IT BACK DONT KEEP IT I know when I was younger I paid in ALOT ON TAXES and didnt get anything back cause I lived with my parents to me that money is pretty much money I paid in and never got back but if your gonna gripe about the stimulas check like I said dont keep it cause if you do your being very contradicting and they can use it for someone else who needs it or whatever!
O PS IF YOU READ THE BIBLE IT SAYS NO MAN KNOWS THE LAST DAYS AND IT WILL BE UNEXPECTED FOR EVERYONE SO IF YOUR SAYING ITS THE LAST DAYS THEN ITS OBVIOUSLY NOT BECAUSE YOU ARE EXPECTING IT I DO BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE AND THATS NOT MEANT AS A SLAP IN THE FACE I AM JUST SAYING PEOPLE HAVE SAID FOR YEARS ITS THE LAST DAYS AND GOD SAYS IT WILL NOT BE KNOWN!
How does the bible come into this discussion? I don’t think you know what i mean. If our economy collapses and our dollar is worth zilch how are we gonna defend this country? with sticks and stones? The bible does not have a place in politics as the goverment says, the church’s get taxed so that tells me there classified as a business.
ME, I do to believe in the bible. your sooooo right it does say something like this…. no one knows but God, when he’s coming to take HIS people. P.S….. I want to make this plain and simple ARE WE GOING TO RECEIVE ANOTHER STIMULUS CHECK OR NOT!!!!!!!!!
Mike the problem solver:
Do you have a clue what you are tyring to say. I don’t think so!!!!!!!!!!!
Try not to hurt yourself on the next problem.
$600 would be great to have, that’s a given. It would not do a thing to the economy. It would be a waste tax payer’s money. If the government really wants to help jump start the economy what they need to do is stop the fighting in so many different countries. Given, we do need to fight the war on terror, but why did we go to Iraq? Weren’t they in Afgan?
In my humble opinion it was the rising price of gas and the global war on terror that hit the U.S. economy. Bush use to run an oil rig company, what happened to it?…bankrupt. Exactly where the US economy is going. The U.S needs help, and WE need it FAST!
Well, since everyone is going on about this and that, I’d like to say whats on my mind also. Since I can’t afford Theropy…LOL.
For one, I am not a “smart” person by no means…… I don’t have a degree in anything. I could never afford to go to college or anything. I have been married for 16 years, and we have worked HARD for everything that we have.
We have set back for years and watched MANY people draw welfare and food stamps, and keep popping out one kid after another. That they can’t afford, and what does our Gov. do….. They give them more money a month, more food stamps a month, housing, child care, and pay for them to go to college.(the few that actually do decide that they want a better life and to go off the “Draw”) While we don’t have kids because we can’t afford them, yet when we struggle, we can’t get any help at all.
Even if I could get college paid for, I still couldn’t afford to go, as it takes both of us working full time just to make ends meet. I don’t see the Gov. paying me to live month after month and paying for college for me. Maybe I should pop out three or four kids. LOL. (No really, I wouldn’t do that…… I think that one should have enough sense to not have kids, if they can’t afford to take care of them with pride, and on their own.
While would I have kids, and live off the system, just to teach my kids how to be lazy, have no self esteem, and teach them to live off the system too. I wouldn’t. I would want better for my kids then that.
So, another $600.00 for us would be like winning the lottery at this point.
Does it actually help the economy long term…… Who knows. All I know is that it would really help us out alot right now. It would help us free up some money so that we could go buy something extra here and there. Which does help the economy.
I could go on for hours about illegal people here, and how it pisses me off that the Gov. isn’t taking care of the problem, when I can’t get a job making more than min. wage right now, and they get things handed to them. And I know that they are handed more things than welfare people.
ANd how, I can’t afford to get a tooth worked on because I don’t have the money to do so, yet sorry ass welfare people can rush to the emergency room because they have a headache.
And how I get no help when I need it just because I don’t have kids coming out my ass.
And then theres the seniors that get screwed everytime they turn around.
Don’t even get me started on that. When the elders have to choose between food and Medication As the lazy Ass people get everything handed to them, then the Gov. needs to get their heads out of their Asses , and they need to be put in our living situations for about 6 months and then return to their position and make the right changes for the people that are now old, and that worked so hard to make America what is was (Before BUSH) and for the middle class that are loosing everything, and paying for everyone else to set back and be lazy worthless Americans.
They need to start helping the ones that keep America running through paying taxes and buying shit, instead of shelling out tons of money a month for the lazy people.
Too harsh??????? Well I am just pissed off and have been for years.
These are just my thoughts on some things. I maynot be politically correct, I may not have spelled things right, I may get bashed for even typing all of this. But I know atleast 100 people personally that feel the same way. I do love my country. I am very glad to be an American. I just don’t like how things are running right now, and I am very mad about it all.
And I think personally that the poeple in charge of making the decissions for the American people, shouldn’t have the right to set in those seats and do so, if they are only in it for themselves. I think that they should be sent to prison for accepting money to go a certain way…i.e. Selling us out for money.
I think that lobbist should have NEVER been allowed in and I think that they should put strong penalties in place for ANYONE caught accepting money to get something passed.
Their just greedy people, padding their own pockets even when knowing what they are doing to their fellow Americans.
Its not like they don’t already get paid GREAT wages. I bet they can afford to go to the doctor or dentist when needed. ANd they have a great retirement plan. Any thing else should be handled with strict punishment for selling out their own people……..Off with their heads!!!!!!!
Well, again I could go on for hours but, I’m finished for now.
I tell you who I would have voted for, for President ….Lou Dobbs. He’s the man. He would have made a great President!!!!!!! Too bad he didn’t run for it.
I can’t believe that people are going on about buying Christmas gifts……
Yes a few little things for the kids is good, but you don’t have to go wild with it or anything else.
We haven’t been able to “do” Chrsitmas for a few years now. Yes, its sad, but crap, I would rather have Heat in the house then to spend money on a gift that you can’t afford. Try something new . Make the Holiday about Christ and family time instead of toys.
When I can’t afford to heat my house, or fill my frig, I am sure not going to go out and spend the stim check on toys.
Come on people are you going to buy some toys with the money, or pay off a bill so that you have that monthly cost GONE ? ANd alittle extra in your pocket every month because of it.
Your kids maybe alittle sad that they didn’t get a room full of toys, but believe me, it isn’t going to kill them. And when they get older and have a family of their own, and come on hard times, they will remember back and completely understand why they didn’t get a room full of toys.
Food, heat, lights, clothing, is way more important than toys.
Maybe you should have started out teaching your kids that giving is better than receiving. And the whole day could have went to helping feed the homeless instead of unwrapping toys that they really don’t need.
So you haven’t been able to save any money back for gifts, Well, my bills are getting paid monthly by the grace of God, I don’t have ANY extra money. We eat very cheap simple food, because that is all that we can afford. Our heat is cut down to a min. so that we don’t end up with too high of a bill. My car has needed fixed for 8 months know, and we still don’t have even $50 saved to get it fixed. I sure wouldn’t go out and spend the money on gifts other than one small gift each.
Just my opinion again.
Oh, Just wanted to add this……
Before I get bashed about it, or someone gets mad about it…
I also have NO problem with people on welfare and food stamps that have just came into hard times, and need the help for awhile. OR that also have jobs (full time) . I do agree with someone above…. The Gov. SHOULD drug test the people of welfare and food stamps. And if they fall…. Their kids should be taken away from them at that moment, and they shouldn’t get assistance anymore. That alone would cut the number of people living on it BIG TIME.
I have a niece 23 years old that has 4 YES I SAID 4, kids. She lives on the system. She only works for a month or so, and then quits. SO that she can keep drawing. She is one of the biggest drug addicts I know.
She had 3 of her kids taken from her because of the drugs, and then had a 4th kid, which she has not had taken from her. There is NO way that she would pass a drug test. She parties as much as she can. Do you think that she is taking care of her kid the right way, when all she does is parties? This is what my tax dollars goes for, and yours too. Her welfare check, goes to drugs. How wrong the system is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I completely understand that people fall on hard times, and totally believe that those are the people that it was made to help. But, it was made for Temp. use…… Not to make a career out of it. (for those that do so)
My problem is when “the Lazy people” make a career out of it.
Those are the people that I list as “Lazy”. Not the ones that just need the extra help, or that are just Temp. using it because of their current need.
Heck, I would love some extra help right now myself… Too bad I make Too much money to get any help, although not enough money to make all ends meet. Its that falling through the cracks thing in our system again.
And about the JOBS post that Americans wouldn’t do those jobs….
MAN, there for a minute, I re-lived BUSH making that same statement on TV.
What a bunch of CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where I work, People are coming in by the loads daily and calling daily asking for a job….. A MIN. WAGE JOB !!!!!!!!!!!
They just need some kind of money coming in, and are more than willing to work for Min. wage.
I use to live in Elkhart IN. where jobs use to be a dime a dozen……. Now, you can’t get a job because all the Mexicans (illegals) have them. The place is going to hell in a hand bag.
Now I live in KY. and there are no more jobs here either. What is it going to take to get people to see that the immigrant (?) problem is WAY out of hand, and the AMerican people need to get something done about it, before there is another Civil War, between the rightful Americans, and the Illegals here, just so that we can have our jobs back!
We all may have to move to Mexico before too long just to get a job, since their all coming here and our jobs are going out of our country. Hee hee.
A point that people are willing to work for low pay……..
A factory took in apps, that isn’t even open yet. ( they wouldn’t even be open for 4 months) They said they would pay $9.00 an hour for line leaders…..and less for production workers.
They were to hire 250 people.
Do you know how many Apps. they got in? Over 1500 in 1 day. There was a line of people waiting for HOURS just to put in an Application. Do you not think that if there were someone standing there saying, I’ll give you a job in construction or in the fields picking stuff, for $5.00 an hour that those people would have said no. Are you kidding me, they would have said when can I start. By the way, I know alot of people in Construction and even the lowest paid person makes more than $6.55 an hour. ANd in the fields picking things…. Its not an easy job…. I know people that have done it to support their families, they work hard… You have to be able to pick so much a day….. But the pay isn’t as low as one would think if you do your quota for the day.
Stimulus checks would best be spent on American made products if those are gifts clothes food….but unless you buy wood or wood by products for heat then heating your house with kero would not do much to stimulate the economy since kero comes from oil…..I.E.-middle eastern or south american countries….and my guess is again stimulus check would be to stimulate the economy…….OUR AMERICAN ECONOMY…..and if you can’t afford to heat your house get a better job……find ways to conserve heat or switch the type of heating system you use during summer months instead of going to the beach or bbq…..be the ant not the grasshopper
HAHA MICHELLE I am askin the same question are we gonna frikkin get it or not lol! And SO FRIKKIN what if I wanna have that money for christmas gifts I can afford to pay my bills just dont have much left over afterwards and I dont have alot I paid off my car my husbands car is paid for besides that we got cell house house stuff and insurance so so what if I wanna be able to have extra money for christmas its not like I havent paid in enough money to taxes to get a lil back but thanks alot for thinkin you know what your talkin bout “mad as hell” sorry that u think noone should wanna buy their kids somethin nice because without it they wouldnt be able to my entire stimulas check last time went completely towards my car to get it paid off so its not like I just blew it but ya would be nice this time to have it for my kid this time cause he is the most important!
I say RUN US THE MONEY! if the govt can give it to AIG for them to go to a spa & have a grand ol’ time, and carry on like they didnt’ run their own company into the ground, then run some more money to us hard working people out here.
if they really want us to use our 2nd stimulus to “stimulate” the economy they are stupid not to give it to us right now. THEN people WOULD use it for christmas and everyone would be happy.
Mad as hell dang i dont have time to read your stories, im sure they are worthy of reading, but maybe you should just bounce your ideas off a friend? seems you have NO ONE to talk to writing all that stuff – DANG!
I’M FOR EVERYONE IN HERE… TO THE PEOPLE IN THE BIG OFFICE,,, IF YOU SEND US THE PEOPLE OUT HERE A CHECK IT WILL HELP THE ECONOMY!!!! DUH(*$$%^ HELLO!!! it would also help us too….
Bottom line is christmas is coming and were all hurting bad and we need a stimulus pumping, wether u wanna pay your car loan, pay your rent, pay your heating, buy toys for the kids or just stash it away we can surely use it. Petro and corperate greed has sucked the living resources out of us and the least congress could do is PUT ON THERE SANTA HATS AND SAY MERRY CHRISTMAS TO US ALL WITH ALITTLE SOMETHING IN THE MAIL.
ALL THE ONES THAT PUT US IN THIS MESS HAVE THERE HANDS OUT AND GETTING BILLIONS OF OUR DOLLARS TO HELP THEM OUT SO THE CEO’S CAN TAKE HOME A COOL FEW MILLION BONUS AND THEY CANT HELP US OUT A SECOND TIME WITH A MEASLEY 600.00 CHECK? WUTS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE? AFTER ALL THEY GET IT BACK IN OUR TAXES, THE ONES ASKING FOR BILLIONS THEY JUST WRITE IT OFF AND ASK FOR MORE
To the one that made a comment above about not being able to afford toys that even if you got a stimulus you would pay bills and just surround them with family for the holidays. I grew up poverished, christmas is a special day were every child looks forward for that special toy he or she wanted, i mean isn’t that why santa claus is our icon when we were kids? the one special time of that year when every kid gets to write santa a letter and hope for that he will give them that. We all grew up with our past and try to make things better for our kids and try to give them a better upbringing than we had when we were kids so im sorry, i do not think the way you do and yes i do pay my bills before hand and i also toss things around to make sure that they get that one special toy that they have ever wanted. I feel bad for every kid in the world that isn’t able to have this. I wish i could be a super hero santa and could make this happen,.. In regards to a stimulus check, it would be nice bcoz it will make the holidays a bit more bareable, without it.. it would make things a bit more harder but not impossible. Don’t be a grinch, you always have the next month and the next that you can make up alittle bit of it. Santa plays an important role in our kids lives, believe and work hard and you shall be rewarded in life. No one ever said you had to fill this tree with a gazillion things underneath, Just that one thing they most ever wanted has its miracles. I am sure when u grew up and if at all you weren’t able to have that special toy or any at all, you thought deep in your mind that you were a failure or maybe santa forgot you or you try to think of something as to why santa never stopped at your house. It’s not a good feeling! For hundreds of years we have been celebrating this and its sad that our childs imagination should be robbed of this bcoz of american white collar greed that has put us in this mess.
The Evolution of Santa Claus
Toward the end of the 18th century, Dutch settlers brought the legend of Saint Nicholas, known to them as Sinter Klaas, to America. Legend has it that Sinter Klaas rode a white horse and left gifts in wooden shoes. This story merged with the British character Father Christmas, who dates back at least as far as the 17th century. Sinter Klaas was eventually Americanized to “Santa Claus.”
The rituals and fantasy surrounding Santa Claus became fixed in the modern American imagination with the publication of the poem “A Visit from St. Nicholas” by Clement Moore in 1823. Better known as “The Night Before Christmas,” the poem established Santa´s physical appearance (plump and jolly), his mode of transportation (a sleigh pulled by eight reindeer), and his method of toy delivery (down the chimney) for generations to come.
I was a welfare recipient and it helped me. So don’t go saying EVERYONE on welfare should be drug tested and we pop babies. I had a child ‘95,’96, and ‘97 and I love them dearly and I would change what I did if given the choice to replay my past. Now there are some that do abuse the system but everyone does not meaning we should not be sterotyped. What I think should happen is that individuals should be given a time frame to get back on track. If the persons is not disabled, no, they should not live on it just because they can. They should be held accountable for their actions and made to improve their status by one year. I used it as a stepping stone. I have now graduated college and I was glad help was available for me. I married the father of my children whom is a E-8 in the army. It is nosense for everyone to point fingers. Instead of making assumptions about Obama, maybe individuals that have all the answers should run for president next time. No one man can please everyone, we just have to pray for the best. He is an intelligient man that surrounds himself with the right influential people(some dem. and rep.). He will make the right decisions and yes, a second check would be good. My husband and I make good money but we won’t turn down a check. Those of you that won’t find it useful, you can sign it over to me. I thank all of you in advance.
If they would only pass the fair tax we wouldn’t have to worry about stimulus checks, tax breaks or anything else the economy would boom with companys comming back to the united states, illegals and drug dealers would all have to pay taxes when they make there purchases.
I hate to disapoint all you people including myself, but i don’t THINK we are going to receive a second stimulus check. and i for one think that just SUCKS!!! They don’t realize that it could and it just might would help the economy…
my fellow americans, quit complaining and get a job and you will have your six hundred dollars when you earn it with and honest days work. lazy bums hahahahhahha im rich i could care less about you. good luck in the next 4.
W
THAT’S GEORGE BUSH !!!!!!!!!!!!! RICHY RICH!!!! GOD BLESS AMERICAN’S..
A there Mr. George W. NICE job with the economy. Whether we get the stimulas check or not, it still will not stimulate the economy. The first one didn’t… Why would the second one?
As for people complaining about not having x-mas gift money and having to use it for heat….Change your life style! Obviously if you move into a nieghborhood with fewer anemities, you wouldn’t be spending that much…”Mad as hell” Babies do not come from people butts…
They come from people who are blessed by God to have one. Do NOT complain about people who have babies and are asking for wellfare. That money they recieve is for their children. What they choose to spend that money on is on them.
Everyone should just Stop judging everyone. Stimulus check…Don’t need it….even though it would be great to have one. I would rather give it to someone else in need. That excludes everyone here. For you have internet, computer, and are able to read.
You want some money??? Sell your computer you are using now and use that to buy your x-mas gifts. Bashing other people so you can feel better about yourself is just ridiculas.
Knight,,, that is NOT x-mas!!!! it is CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why don’t you try putting CHRIST in your CHRISTMAS?? And if president bush said for everybody to line up for a stimulus check. You would be the first one in line. MERRY CHRISTMAS…..
Michelle,
I am sorry if it affends you that i type x-mas instead of Christmas. Do you know why i don’t have to put Christ in Chrismas??? Because it isn’t he’s real birthday. And Christ is in my heart when I pray everynite and go to church. And NO I would not be in line. I’m sure you would even in -30 degree weather. Just shows the kind of person YOU ARE.
my fellow americans, i would like to thank dick cheney for his fine comments early this evening, ohhh wait a second I mean Knight wink wink. ahahahhahha your all still poor. No presents on X-mas WAAAh WAAAh babies hahahahah. I wipe my ass with your stimulas checks… hahahhaah. good luck in the next 4.
W
i’ve been through this whole line of comments and some people are for the 2nd stimulus payment and some aren’t. so i’m adding my comments from the peanut gallery, i’m 26 have 2 small children my husband is disabled and can’t work for very long when he can get work, i only get a little over a thousand dollars a month working for the state and we’re stuck living in my father-in-laws house ’cause we can’t afford to get a house either renting or buying. another stimulus check would help us greatly.
Knight, sign your check over this way… I’ll split it with everyone else here in need as well. 2nd ur an idiot lame ass lemming, its bad enough we don’t have a life and were suppose to give up the single enjoyment we have that keeps us sane? sure hand over your pc to me and i’ll sell mine.. why don’t you stare at the 4 walls and let me know how you do and as for the 1st stimulus? it did help, it was just not enough,.. also many people either still haven’t gotten there’s or got it way late and for obama’s plan? giving us more than what bush gave us? and with fuel going down.. i think it will set the economy going in the right pace. Sitting back and doing nothing to help the economy is sure gonna have you ready to commit suicide because when the second depression comes around, you sure will be whistling a different tune. If the goverment does not stimulate the economy, i will bet you we will be headed for a depression and that means ur richy rich richness will be worth zilch, nada, zero and you will be in the same boat as us. EVERYTHING IS HANDED OVER TO YOU RICH MUTTS, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT IS TO LIVE DAY BY DAY, WEEK TO WEEK. I HOPE GOD STRIKES YOU BROKE.. IT’LL BE WELL DESERVED!
Knight, you said you wouldn’t get in line. since you act so RICH. Why dont you go boost the economy up, and it wouldn’t be in the shape that its in. HELP the people out here that has lost there jobs and have children to feed, andthe people who do have jobs are NOT working reg. normal hrs. and so forth! Christmas is right around the corner and the chidren are looking forward to it. Give the people out here to do that with!!!! the people out here are trying to do the best that they can do and to do it with. YES we could use a second stimulus check.
A second stmulus check would be nice. Why not help the people if they can help with a bailout for the big companies. After all, it doesn’t matter who is in office; we are the ones who a suffering. I have one question. We have all ths money to loan other countries and we never get paid back. Why don’t they collect some of these debts that the other countries owe?
Think about it if you owe a debt you have to pay it! How bad would this country be if they collected some of these debts? This is just food for thought
@ Paula – If we’re not paying our debts, how can we expect other countries to pay us?
“People who have no Compassion” Aye breathe of a gay goat. Quit your dam complaining. This has nothing to do with “being well off”. Cause being well off, I am not. I have the air in my lungs, just enough food on a-would be table, and barely enough to make ends meet. You are just acting like a spoiled b**ch. Commit suicide, wow… I guess that has been on your mind. I don’t blame you. The holidays can be trying at times, when your disgruntled lonely and all you care about is money. I can see how suicide is in your mind. Get a life. Live your life you ignorant piece of s**t. Yes, money makes the world go round. Apparently YOU revolve around money. Gifts with $$$ doesn’t make all children happy. Just the spoiled ones like you. Yes, if you are able to get on this website, type, and complain you DO NOT DESERVE my stimulus. And no, the First Stimulus did not work no matter how much they would have given us, go take an econ course. If it worked we wouldn’t be in this situation you uneducated ignoramus. You know what, I know you’ve been thinking about it, but please don’t commit suicide. Although, if you do, that would mean we would get a bigger stimulus. So go right ahead and f**k yourself you LOSER!
Michelle,
Please keep your comments to yourself now… Cuz apparently you have nothing intelligent to add to the conversation. Maybe you and “people have….” Can get together, combine your brain power, so that it will equal to that of a 2 year old. And figure out that the stimulus will not work. Go read a book or something…. AND NO ONLY SPOILED B**ch LIKE YOU! would think about getting money instead of investing in something to actually help the economy. Just so you know. Giving everyone money hurts the economy. Look it up.
YOUR SUCH A F___EN JOKE KNITE! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
you wouldnt know a b___h if you saw one. not so much as a MF like your sorry a__ that want get out there and help the economy like i SAID!!!!! since you act and sound so rich. oh, but you would be just like bush. YOU REALLY DONT NEED TO BE IN HERE!!!!!! you got me beat you need to quit acting like a ZRO!!!!! THROUGH WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
Paula,
You have a good question. The reason we are not collecting money from countries that owe us is because they can’t. About 30 to 40 % of our debt is owed to foreign countries. Every time the US needs money, they create bonds and they sell those bonds to companies and/or foreign countries.
With all that being said when you use up your budget financing a war or other activities more bonds are created thus having insufficient funds to pay down the deficit and increasing it instead. The U.S.’s deficit great exceeds all moneys owed to the U.S. So even if they did all decide to pay, it would not even come close to the trillions the U.S. owes.
financing
PINK KNIGHT! , your the fucking looser and piece of shit. Spoiled? lmao, don’t know what that is, never had that happen to me. Would you like to spoil me with your richness and let me get a taste of it? hmmm i highly doubt that would happen. Ur just an ignorant fuck retard rich asshole, oh and now you wanna say your just making ends meet? whoa in your first post you claim ur rich but now that were bashing ya your trying to hide your wealth as with all the rest of them corrupt fuckers that steal our tax dollars. If stimulus checks dont help than why the fuck have they done it in the past many of times and they will continue to do so. Your a pathetic fucking grinch and yes, i do see that christmas means shit to you. Your probably bald, fat and live alone and masterbate to porn on the internet and have no kids so i can see were the grinch in you comes into play. Stimulus checks do help us when times are really bad so you have no fucking clue. I pay my fucking fair share of taxes not unlike you fucking rich assholes that hide your money in swiss accounts to dodge paying taxes. I also break my ass 10-12 hours a day while your getting your finger nails manicured and your back rubbed by some high priced hoe bag so fuck you and all your lame ass comments. Until you get to live the struggling day to day lives that most of us here are living, keep your mouth shut and glued. MERRY FUCKING CHRISTMAS YOU LEMMING! PS: GAY? LMAO MORE THAN LIKELY UR A PEDOPHILE THAT PRAYS ON LITTLE BOYS. YOU TALK LIKE WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO VENT, WHY SHOULDN’T WE BE PISSED? I’M PAYING FOR SOCIAL SECURITY THAT WONT EVEN BE AROUND WHEN I’M READY TO RETIRE, MY 401K IS NEARLY WIPED OUT, IM WORKING 12 HOURS A DAY, I CANT MAKE ENDS MEET, THERE ARE NO BETTER PAYING JOBS OUT THERE, MY SAVINGS IS NEARLY GONE <———-HOW THE FUCK CAN ANYONE GET OUT OF THIS MESS? SO BEFORE YOU EVEN TALK NEXT TIME, THINK FIRST!! WAIT!! UNLESS YOU AIN’T GOT A BRAIN THAT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE. MY APOLIGIES!
Mr Knight: Ithink you need to tithe ten percent of your wealth to your church and share with the poor and needy.I have a daughter going to college next fall, if you dont need your stimulus check send it to me.If you are a Christian like you say you are watch your language on this computer children are reading this. Get Christ in your heart and keep him there. Flush that trashy mouth down the toilet where trash belongs.Remember to share all your wealth. Now stop being a grouchy old fart and behave. By the way, Merry CHRISTmas. I hope you never know what is like to be poor and not have a dime to your name and no food to feed your kids if you have any , which I doubt because you are a big fat meany head. Have a nice day!
ooooHHH MR knight!! were are you? funny, here is his post.
Knight wrote on,
November 19th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
You want some money??? Sell your computer you are using now and use that to buy your x-mas gifts. Bashing other people so you can feel better about yourself is just ridiculas.
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Funny as hell, were just venting that we should get a stimulus 2nd round but yet you talk about what others should not do. ARE YOU TRYING TO FEEL BETTER ABOUT YOURSELF OLE RICH MR KNIGHT? IT COMES RIGHT OUT OF YOUR OWN MOUTH! WE WEREN’T BASHING ANYONE, YOUR THE ONE WHO BASHED EVERYONE HERE SO REMEMBER THAT!
MICHELLE
LMAO
Peoplehave no compassion. Suck MY dick bitch! YOU ARE JUST TOO STUPID TO SEE THE OBVIOUS. NO THE CHECK DIDN’T HELP OUT. SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU, BUT I M NOT OVER WEIGHT NOT BALD NOR DO I MASTERBATE ALL THE TIME…LOL APPARENTLY YOU ARE YOU FAT BITCH. QUIT GIVING EVERYBODY YOUR DAM DEMENSION…YES YOU SPOILED SON OF A BITCH. GOOD THING THAT YOU DON’T HAVE ANY KIDS…DON’T WANT YOUR STUPIDITY TO SPREAD. NOW TAKE YOUR BLACK SILK UNDERWEAR AND JUMP OFF A CLIFF. DO HUMANITY A FAVOR.
you guys are sooooo funny….Poor? gee i wonder what that is? Is that like growing up with 6 other brothers and sisters and only having one family income? Or is that waking up x-mas morning and finding no tree or x-mas presents? Or better yet, is it having to fight with my siblings to get a meal? I know, i know.. its a bunch of spoiled rich f*cks who complain about not getting a stimulus. Like i stated. I am not well off… I grew up poor and i still am. To me you are all a bunch of spoiled Bi*chs! Like i said, i have the air in my lungs and food on the table and God in my heart. That is enough. And yes i give what i can at church.
Peoplehave…You are sooo stupid. Good thing you do not have kids. Now take your black silk underwear and jump off a cliff to end your gene pool. LOL
people have no compassion, Its jack sses like that above me we cant pay NO attention to anymore. he has no earthly idea what hes talking about also to himself. hes the one that is sooooooo funny setten back and going DUUUH HMMMM LET ME SEE NOW OOOOPS LIGHT BULB ?????? MARKS.
JUST EVERYBODY EVERWHERE LET GO AND LET GOD, HE CAN AND HE WILL FIX IT, CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONE……..
i somewhat have to agree with the dark side of Knight . i think that a lot of people are acting like the big 3 auto makers always expecting a bell out. and it is most likely people that couldn’t balance a checkbook if they had one. most people that fall on hard times are not prepared or not smart enough to plan for emergency’s. while i think that a stimulus check might help a lot of the poor people it is middle class that are wanting to borrow there own money, because we are the tax payers that have to pay it back.
HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO THE CRY BABIES!!
Ohhh great, just what we need another idiot that has no business being here. Don’t you belong in the rich postings section down the hall mr. lemming hermon? and for knight, i have no more words for you,… your posts explain it all. Idiots and morons should not be spoken too bcoz all your gonna get is moronic talk and mumble words that have no meanings. As for the rest of us, it looks like there is good hope, don’t know if it will happen before the holidays but obama’s plan is to give out 500.00 to singles and 1000.00 to couples. I think the same rule applies for 300.00 additional per child. It’s clear.. bush and is army of lemming republicans in congress won’t budge but as obama said that asoon as he takes office it will go full speed ahead. I think the few rotten apples in here are just upset that the democrats have taken power, it’s about time. Bush and his administration along with the republicans should go down in the Guinness world book of records for the worst to ever lead this country.
To the firm of compassion if you think that we the tax payers should bail out every idiot democrat or republican. Then i think you should have some compassion and go buy a new ford chevy or chrysler. I think its idiots and yahoos like you that is always wanting someone else to support your lifestyle because you probably dont pay taxes. And if you think Obama is going to bail you out! you must be dreaming. GET A LIFE!!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS. BY!!!!!!
I’M FOR OBAMA AND ALL THAT HE BELIEVES IN. THERE ISN’T A SINGLE PERSON IN THE WORLD THAT IS PERFECT, INCLUDING ALL THE 43 PRESIDENTS WE’VE HAD NOW 44 WITH OBAMA COMING INTO OFFICE. THE MAN HAS ALOT TO PROVE TO THE NON BELIEVERS AND THE BELIEVERS. I KNOW THIS MAN MEANS BUSINESS WHEN HE DECIDED TO CAMPAIGN FOR THE WHITE HOUSE. HE’S A SMART, INTELLIGENT BLK MAN AND I STRONGLY BELIEVE IN HE AND WHAT HIS PLANS ARE FOR THE FUTURE UNITED STATES.
OK! WHATEVER… OBAMA MIGHT BE GODS GIFT TO THIS COUNTRY, BUT A POLITICIAN WILL PROMISE AN ARM AND A LEG TO GET A VOTE. HE DOSEN’T TELL IF IT IS APPROVED BY THE HOUSE OR THE CONGRESS OR THE SENATE. ITS IDIOTS OUT THERE THAT BELIEVE THAT THIS COUNTRY IS A ONE MAN SHOW. HOW STUPID CAN YOU BE!!!!!!!
hermon,
hey, guess what…he got the vote!!
i’m a single mom and could use 4 or 5 (or 6 or 7). if it works for the economy, why not do it?
don’t get me wrong i make pretty good money but, the economy definately needs it.
Trish,,,, I think you need to read Hermons comment again. He is saying YES Obama got the vote,BUT HE’S GOT TO GO THROUGH CONGRESS AND SENATE. They are the ones that really makes the final decisions……….
I STRUGGLED ON WHO I SHOULD VOTE FOR AND VOTED FOR MCCAIN, BUT WHEN I FOUND OUT OBAMA WON I DID NOT THINK IT WAS SO BAD EITHER AND SAID TO MYSELF…….. I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE VOTED FOR HIM ANYWAY BECAUSE IT IS NICE FOR A CHANGE TO HAVE A YOUNGER PRESIDENT AND PROBABLY SOMEONE WITH NEW IDEAS AND NOT THE SAME OLD, SAME OLD FOR THE MOST PART. I AM ABOUT SICK OF THE SAME OLD, SAME OLD…MEANING BUSH AND YES THE CONGRESS HAS TO VOTE ALSO, BUT I THINK AS A REPUBLICAN BUSH REALLY MADE SOME BAD DECISIONS AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WAS PRONE TO GO ALONG WITH HIM WHILE THE DEMOCRATS WERE NOT. THAT IS WHAT I THINK ANYWAY. AT LEAST BUSH IS GONE AND WE HAVE A CHANCE!!!
Your right, but no matter what president we have he still has to go through congress and senate.They are the ones we have to set back and wait on for a final decision!!!
You did not get change by wanting Oboma in, you go the same people under the Clintons, including one of them. You will get not a dime of this new stimulas package that just passed and in the long run everyone will see they made the wrong “choice”,especially when we are “tested” per VP Biden!
We have a “chance” not “choice.” If we had a choice lord knows who we would end up with because most people would never agree. We have a chance and that is what we need. Obama is now our president and like said, give the guy a chance.
Michelle…..Yes, I know you are correct in saying Obama has to go through congress and senate to get things to pass
which is good in some ways and bad in others (especially when he has to try to get something to pass that would benefit us without a doubt and then they do not pass it.) I think it is a change that we needed getting a democrat (which I am usully for democrat or republican, whichever one is better) to try and pass and bring up better solutions in the first place rather than bad ones.
I agree. Politicians will promise an arm and a leg to get a vote. But he got the vote- and he’s still holding onto his plans…
Give him time. I’m sure he’ll just be like all the rest.
Hermon it is idots like yourself that make deeper holes in our country. Why not stop the ignorance and allow him to do his job.. I have sat here and listened to men and women gripe and complain about his inexperience to lead our country , in the past experience has taken us nowhere.
He had not even been in the senate for a year before he started campaigning!! He is ignorant and this country will see that. You say experience has gotten us no where, well just wait and see where inexperience gets us!! IT wont be any better… HOPE FOR CHANGE 1/20/13
Ok so you think Obama is an idiot….. So that mean you prefer to have an ex prisoner of war in office with the ability to start yet another war. (Revenge is nature)
I think Obama is going to be great for our country. It does not give you a right to call him ignorant. Why dont you stop being ignorant and saying stupid things as if you can predict the future. It is very ignorant to let people know that you are predjudice. If it was not for your republican Bush, things would not be the way they are now. TORE UP!!!!!!
Well anyone has got to be better than Bush!!!! He drove this country right into the hole. Republicans are not for the people!!! I voted for Obama and I’m sure things will be just fine eventually. It might take some time, but having a democrat in office is a good thing! Remember how good things were when Clinton was president??? Lots of jobs, our country was not in debt. I say go Obama!!!!!!
First of all the Government is not giving us anything.This is tax payers money that is being handed out freely AGAIN.When the man gave the bail out money to the car industry,who did it help?With the economy in the shape that its in the man has more control of our money more than ever.If they would gave the American worker the bail out money we would be in a lot better shape than we are now.Think about this if the average American could have gotten there bail out we all could have a little better life and actually be able to buy a vehicle.Then the car industry still would have gotten there bail out.After these bail outs have things gotten any better?I think not.
i agree give the people money who can buy item, what good does it do to give money to a big car d ealer, the reason they are going broke is because we average americans can not buy a car so hey lets give the company more money just to go broke, without the people having money, we can not line the pockets of the company
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU. IF THE SMALLER AMERICAN IS NOT KEPT AFLOAT, THEN WE CANNOT BUY OBVIOUSLY. IF WE CANNOT BUY, THEN THE DEALERSHIPS AND OTHER COMPANIES GETS NO MONEY FROM US. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE DEALERSHIPS SHOULD HAVE LOWERED EXPENSES (AS WE ALL SEEM TO FIND A WAY BUT HAVE REACHED OUR END) AND PRICES BY THE GOVERNMENT PUTTING STIPULATIONS ON THEM SOMEHOW IN SOME WAY. THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE GIVEN US THE MONEY, OR AT LEAST PART OF IT, AND WE COULD HAVE USED IT TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY, AND THAT IS IF EVERY SELFISH COMPANY OUT THERE WOULD HELP TO LEVEL THINGS OFF SO THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO BUY. WHAT DO THESE COMPANIES THINK? THAT WE CAN LEVEL IT OFF OURSELVES? FOR THE ONES THAT ARE RICH, THEY ARE NOT RICH WITHOUT US. IF THEY DO NOT KEEP US AFLOAT, THE WHOLE THING GOES DOWN. I TRULY DO NOT KNOW WHERE THEIR BRAINS ARE AND WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN. I REALLY BELIEVE THAT ALL OF THE COMPANIES’ OWN SELFISHNESS (RAISING PRICES, KEEPING PAY LOW, NO INSURANCE, SHALL I GO ON?)HAS GOTTEN THEM WHERE THEY ARE TODAY AND SO PUT US WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND THE GOVERNMENT HAS LET THAT HAPPEN. I AM REALLY SICK OF HEARING ABOUT THEM (MOST OF THE COMPANIES AND THE RICH) CRY WHEN THEY HAVE SCREWED US FOR FAR TOO LONG ON PRICES AND RESPECT
SORRY ALL. BUT I AM SO TIRED OF THEIR SELFISHNESS AND GREED AND WILL NOT GO INTO WHO IS WHO BECAUSE THAT WILL TAKE FAR TOO LONG!
LOL. You made me laugh on that last part.
YOUR SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RIGHT!! Giving these car companies this bailout money was so ridiculous i wanna vomit!! What about the families that own the companies setting on all this profit!! You dont see them trying to reinvest their own revenue into their companies. That just wouldnt be fair would it. Having to take their “hard earned” money to better their business. SELFISH A$$HOLES
My message was supposed to be down here instead of up there…..I will say it again…..LOL. You made me laugh on that last part
Hermon AKA hermoine, you have been living to many harry potter fantasies. Tap your wand and make your stimulus check come this way to all of us. I don’t pay taxes? ummm total taken outa my check a week is about 100.00 and to your answer of bailing out? no i think there were wrong to bail out any financial institution, if anyone should have been bailed out is the people,.. the people that were sucked dry bcoz of high fuel prices and everything else associated with fuel. All these companies made bad choices and lined there pockets with cold cash, we didn’t do a damn thing wrong. Remember, we the people pay for every damn thing that goes wrong in this country and the one time were in need of help we got lemmings like you who scream bloody murder that we should not be helped… hmmm are you one of them corp scumbags? as far as being gullable and listening to whatever those politicians say to get my vote? i admit im 100% ashamed that i have never ever voted in my life, i am born and raised here.. and why haven’t i voted? hmmm they all feed you lies then forget about why they were put in office. The one thin i wish i could change is that i wish i would have finally put my vote in and voted for obama. Til now no one has ever heared of obama, i believe the reason is that a nobody was put to be president so that all that the bush administration has done they will try to make it fall back on obama, blame obama and bush will be the scape goat but guess what,.. i believe he will over come this and make change and it will be so unpresidented that it will have heads spinning. IM GLAD WE FINALLY HAVE SOMEONE IN OFFICE THAT KNOWS WHAT ITS LIKE TO BE ON THE POOR SIDE AND OBAMA, WE BELIEVE CHANGE WILL COME!! THIS COUNTRY WAS BUILT WITH HONEST LEADERS BUT OVER THE LAST 50-70 YEARS THAT SLOWLY HAS ERODED AND I BELIEVE IT WILL TAKE PEOPLE LIKE OBAMA TO RESTORE THAT CONFIDENCE. AS FAR AS A ONE MAN SHOW? HE HAS MUCH MORE POWER THAN YOU THINK. THERE ARE ONLY CERTAIN THINGS CONGRESS CAN VETO. WETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, OBAMA IS ABOUT AMERICA AND IF WE GET MORE LIKE HIM.. IT WILL RESTORE AMERICA TO ITS FORMER GLORY!!! ITS ABOUT TIME CORP AMERICA STOPS RUNNING AMERICA AND WE THE PEOPLE HAVE THE SAY!!
Remember one thing: The rich protect the rich and its proof right there, were the ones in need of help and what is the bush administration and the democrats doing? again, helping the rich corp. They cry mercy and have there hands out, ohhh lets right them billions of dollars in help. We want help, oops sorry we can’t do it. If every single person in the usa stop paying taxes and stop buying anything from big corperations there wont be any of them.
First of all, if you really think that Obama is poor and can relate to us, you might want to rethink that statement, he made 4 million on the book he wrote, both him and Michelle are attorneys so if they are poor then what do you consider people that make 50,000 a year. Obama is doing a repeat of the Clinton years, he is promising things he cannot possibly deliver; he did this to get your vote. If you are that naive than I guess you will just have to wait and see what he really does, which is raise your taxes just like every other president, there is no other way around this. Obama has no experience and you will see this in the next 4 years. Maybe you should borrow that so called Harry Potter wand, and help your hero Obama, because he is going to need it, the man made so many promises to rich/famous people he now has to pay them back, ex: Hillary Clinton.
Hannah,
You are right; Obama is not poor. Not now but, he was at one time and that is why he is successful now. He was determined to not live the rest of his life like that. And so can everyone else. It’s called financial aid. I too am in school and will not be on that side of the fence too much longer. I’m really not quite there now but, I could be if i lost my job. Just as everyone else could be.
By the way, are you a republican?? Wanted the hockey mother helping to run the U.S.?? Guess what? Obama got the votes needed (by a land slide)
We really should be looking into the past to fix what bush has done to this country what happen to Responsibility when I make a bad call at my Employer Expence I am punished in one way or another here we are saying how Obama will fall short by being the President what can we as the people of United States do I will support Obama because he has no fear of the rich and powerful and as for Clinton he had this country in the + why is this so hard to understand and by the way I made 48,500 a year and am layed off and we do need a president that can change this country ask the elderly what kind of president built this country not the kind like we have that use it for profit. lets give him a chance
I agree to give Obama a chance. I actually voted for McCain but really struggled as to who to vote for. When I found out Obama won I was not surprised and not upset. I just thought to myself that it was not too bad that he won. I am glad that he won now though. I think he will do a good job in office. Sure noone is perfect and he will make mistakes but it seems like he has a good team with him. Here is to a better year, cause no matter how the low and middle class feel, we sure need one. May we be blessed for all of our patient work!!
I am sorry, but Clinton was the best President we have had in along time. Our economy was in the greatest shape that it has been in along time. Our unemployment rate was very low and the people in our country seemed to be happy. I think Clinton delivered and he was a damn good President!!
Please Clinton is a huge part as to why we are in this recession. Look back at the books and the facts; The Clinton administration put regulatory rules on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and other huge investment banks to approve loans to unqualified people. Just as long as people had a pulse, they were APPROVED!!! So these collosal banks started using this to their own advantage because sooner or later the government would have to bail them out. FAVOR FOR A FAVOR!!! That is the main reason we are in this slump. The Bush Administration was always against this as well as John McCain. I feel sorry for any democrat that does NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT HISTORY and thinks that A PERSON THAT KNOWS HOW TO DELIVER A SPEECH IS CONSIDERED THERE GOD!!!
hey rick!!
i guess you didnt see the economy, when clinton was president.. i guess you didnt see the millions of jobs created, when clinton was president.. i guess you didnt see the gas prices when clinton was president. i guess you didnt see the low rate of unemployment when clinton was president..
i guess you didnt see us in a war that cost’s us 50 billion a month, when clinton was president..
but yet again its stupid people like you, that dont follow politics and just believe what you see on tv and read in the news papers.
i spent 4 years in the marine corps. did two tours to iraq… trust me.. if you didnt know politics then you would learn alot abot them being in the service.. but ive always been into them..
something you need to do more research on..
im tired of fighting for you liberals.. peace love no war shytheads..
do your research and come back when you actually can prove clinton was a horrible president, and not one of THEE best presidents we have ever had!!.
that i believe!!! clinton was a great president..
bush just cleaned up his daddies work..he put us in the hole we are today. along with his daddy and the gulf war..
but guess what? its people like you that dont give a crap about the lower class people, cAUSE YOU PROBABLY LIVING OFF YOUR INHERIATED MONEY FROM YOUR RICH PARENTS.. IM MIDDLE CLASS AND HAVE NO PROBLEM HELPING OUT LOWER CLASS FAMILIES WHEN I CAN..
WITH OUT THE LOWER CLASS AND MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES YOU RICH WOULDNT BE RICH AND NO ITS FINALLY COMING BACK TO BITE YOU IN YOUR AHOLE.. NOW THE RICH ARE BEGGING FOR MONEY BECAUSE NONE OF THE WORKING PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO BUY THIER SUPPLIES AND KEEP THEM AFLOAT..
sucks now doesnt it you rich bstards..
Well, you might be happy to know that (I’m not sure who made it to his new staff but) last I heard he was looking at ALOT of Clinton’s old team, which I think is good because he did have alot of things going, even if everyone wanted to whine because of his personal life.
I just have to say clinton was a JOKE and now so is his wife!!!!!
Hannah,
Ummm…if your going to make a comment like that do ur research…he may have money “NOW” but he got there on his own..he had to work hard and long for it. he was a child with a single mother taking care of him. I think if any one can understand what we are all going through its HIM…he may not get it all done over night but i truly believe he will work his hardest to get us where we need to be.
Hannah,
You need to get a grip on youself and stop hating! Republicans need to wise up and stop bashing democrats. Everyone in the world has a right to a chance, give Obama a chance before you start saying things that will stir up confusion. It does not make sense to be bitter for no reason, not knowing what is to come. Are you a future predicter or something? No one can predict the changes that are to come from our new president.
Hannah, It amazing how people like you sit back without a word being said when the Bush Administration(who is obviously inexperienced- when he tried to finish a war his father started_no weapons of mass destruction ever found, unemployment the worst in history) led the country in this deep hole we are in. Its amazing how people like you are so quick to criticize Obama for trying to clean up the mess that someone else created over a period of eight years but grin and bear the destruction Bush has caused for this country. I say if you and others like you have the answers, you should have helped Bush run this country when he was president and maybe Obama would not have to clean up the mess “Your president left behind. I think you should have borrowed the wand to clean up this mess your president caused and use that same wand to help him find the weapons of mass destruction and Osama Bin Laden since he lied about being so concerned with terrorists. And you need to borrow that wand to find a suitable answer for the many parents, wives, children, sisters, brothers, etc. who have lost a loved one fighting a war built on a lie. Put aside Obama’s race(because I am betting that is what this is all about) and analyze what Bush has done for this country thus far. Check the statistics and judge righteous not racist.
You go linda, I am on your side all the way!!
Hannah is really pissing me off.
Hannah,
You responded to the wrong thing. I am for Obama. I do not give a damn about Bush and never have. Before you try and comment on something I post you need to read carefully before you start writing bullshit!!!!!
I agree with people have no compassion, This writer is difinetely right and we people always pay for their mistakes. We are tired of cleaning up their mess. The rich get rich and the poor stay poorer. This is definetely a change and hope it will be restored.
I do agree with you. Why we have to bail out and pay this companies for their mistakes?and how come BMW, Mercedes, Ferrari are not asking for money? and why airlines from all over the world have cheap flights,better seats and food and American companies have to be bail out? mmmm I wonder where is the money? Remember they almost through a million dollar party to celebrate that the fool government give them billions, but off course they are bush friends…well only one thing to all of them and it is my middle finger up their’s and who is going to bail me out?
oops i made an error, it is the republicans that ive been meaning to bash DEMOCRATS ARE HERE TO MAKE A CHANGE!!!.
Got so caught up with anger over hermoines response, i lost my head for a moment.
WHAT CHANGE???? Dont worry you have 4 years to answer that questions. haha
Trouble with this is, it seems that the vocal supporters here on this site for the GOP are, well, a bit challenged in vocabulary.
I would make the hedged guess that it is very likely that they are merely repeating what has been said to them by their parents, and their priests.
In the meantime, “What change”, you ask? Oh, wait, look at that, Gitmo’s closing, torture’s getting criminalized again, and the military is being ordered to follow the military standard for interrogation. And it’s been effective in the past in not only getting answers, but creating defectors as well. How far in the past, you ask? Dig through the newsreels, it was about 6 months ago. In Iraq.
That’s change I can believe in. Sometimes, the tried and true method works best, hence, “Tried” and “True”.
Well im going to talk about NANCY P. This last stimulus check we did receive that bush gave out,that we have to pay state taxes on. was delayed because of her. she was wanting to give it to food stamps and unemployment. That would not have done any good. WHY CAN’T THE HOUSE DEMOCRATIC LEADER AND THE OTHER POLITICAL IDIOTS IN WASHINGTON GET IT TOGETHER. I KNOW—— ITS JUST A DREAM.
HI, this is the frist time i’ve came to this web site.i liked the idea of being able to have a voice on some topics that concern me, some comments i agreed with, some i did’nt, some were sad, some made me laught, some made me mad ! Thanks for a injoyable evening .
Fine.so you don’t like the idea of a stimulus check.Fair enough,you are entitled to your opinion. But to say that everyone who needs a little assistance is just lazy and unwilling to work…
My dad worked as many hours as he could and we still had plenty of times when there was nothing to eat. To assume that the poor are all just lazy is ignorant. It is VERY hard to get to the top, or even the middle,without any advantages. And even harder if you find yourself to be unlucky,to be a single parent, or a pregnant teenager. Some people don’t have the advantage of a buffer when something goes wrong.
Yes,there should be limits.The government should not have to support you and your offspring for the rest of your lives.
Maybe you should learn what it’s like to be in that situation before you go passing judgement.
I love what you have said. Nicely put. The rich are assholes and will continue to be assholes. What can ya do right?
I don’t remember who said that the unemployed were lazy, but just so everyone knows, I was in the military for 11 months, injured in Iraq and discharged. My girlfriend is on disability and attending school. All I do with my time during the day, and I mean ALL is look for a job. And sometimes I’ll be on foot due to lack of gas but I’m still out looking. So I don’t appreciate being called lazy.
I SURE AM GLAD SOMEBODY UP IN THAT WHITEHOUSE IS GOING TO HAVE A GOOD CHRISTMAS THIS YEAR. CAUSE IT SURE ISN’T GOING TO BE MY FAMILY. YOU PEOPLE DONT CARE ABOUT HELPING THE MIDDLE CLASS OR THE POOR PEOPLE OUT IN THIS COUNTRY. YOU SAY THIS AND YOU SAY THAT YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING YOU LIKE, BUT SAYING AND DOING ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS. WHY DONT YOU DO WHAT YOU SAY YOUR GOING TO DO, AND QUIT FOOLING WITH ALL OUR LIVES. BUT FROM ME AND MY FAMILY YOUR NOT FOOLING ANYONE. WE KNOW WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT…………….POLITICIAN!!!!!!!!! THE MORE YOU THINK OF POLITICIAN THE WORSE ITS GOING TO GET. AND BELEIVE YOU ME. IT CAN GET WORSE!!!!!!!<<<<<<<<
seriously, there are billions of people in this world. Everyone is looking for a handout, get off your asses and do things for yourself. Go to toys for tots or a food bank if you have nothing for xmas. The sad part is there is some help out there but your waiting for it to be given to you. Give the guy a chance. Im sure everyone would be bashing you if you were president and u wudnt like it very much. Get over it!
u seem very angry….
SHE’LL GET OVER IT!!!!!!
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http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
I hope there is a second round of stimulus checks. the first one helped me alot. At least I was able to catch up on a few bills. By it being Christmas time it would HELP alot!!!
I would like to know if there are certain requirements to recieving debt relief for student loans. I mean the last time the checks were sent out I didnt even recieve one and the one my mom got was just 300.00 which didn’t even put a dent in our bills it was more like a scratch. I really hope the economy improves and more jobs become available. I mean its crazy to see how many people are suffering these days while “celebrities” are still living it up lavishly and movies are still being made and cds sold. Shouldn’t some of those millions of dollars be put to better use than the entertainment industries? And for those trying to blame Obama for this crisis its time to grow up stop being sore losers. he is tryin to fix this broken country which is more than what can be said about you. Maybe when you are out of a job and living on the street, I hope u don’t ask for help. you see its easy to pass judgment on things u obviously have no knowledge about. This country is headed for another depression unless something is done and people become more responsible especially those in charge of the economy. For the genius that hired the head of AIG you should be fired and sent to Alcatraz for your stupidity along with the morons responsible. With great power comes even greater responsibilities. Thinking is always best before acting. While I admit Obama is not going to be able to do all he promised, cause lets face it things are not that simple, but i do have faith that he can make a difference and in time come what may change is GOING to HAPPEN!!
My husband has worked with many Mexicans illegal & legal. They were paid the same wages as he and everyone else. So there may be some working cheap but not as many as you may think! And there are plenty of lazy ones. My husband would be put in charge when the boss was away and a few of them tried to gang up on him, threatened him and also stole his jack and spare tire out of his truck. The reason for this was because he is a hard worker and they told him he made them look bad when he put out the better work in less time. Many of them are young and disrespectful We are in our mid 40’s, Ifor one work as a cook in a restaurant. I work just as hard and in most cases harder than alot of people half my age. So say what you want about how great immigrants are but until you have worked with them U DON’T KNOW!!!! They can all go home as far as we are concerned. We know of one who saved some of his money, borrowed a trailer & $1500.00 from his boss -went back to Mexico, bought a business and never returned the trailer or repaid the 1500.00!!! So I personally don’t think they are a great assest to our country!!! I’m sure they are like any other race some good some bad because I actually have one in my family wonderful person!! This person was born an american citizen. And again awonderful person!!! But the illegals and the ones with green cards could atleast be nice and respectful while in another country taking jobs THAT YES some of us hard working Americans are doing and willing to do! And by the way my hard workin husband hasn’t had work for 4 out of the last 6 weeks! And my hours have been cut along with everyone else at work! But he’s out there every day trying to find work, yard work, cleaning gutters, putiing in applications. There,s nothing out there in our region!
My husband and I are over 50 . Both of us have worked in the past, but now we have health issues that keep us from working and we have to rely on SSI for income now which is just a little over $600 per month. We sure could use the money from a stimulus check but people who get SSi aren’t eligible. I think everyone should get these checks. The goverment has bailed out banks and now auto makers so why not the low income and poor people of America.
Again, watch this movie and it will show you why they want the poor to be poor and keep the american people in fear with all this terrorist BS.
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
why dont everyone watch and see what happens ok
It’s scary how uneducated and stupid the majority of American people are.
What do you people that are whining about the war and Bush think will happen if we pull our troops out? Do you think we will make a point to the terrorists. You bet we will. The point will go something like this “we don’t follow through when things get tough so go ahead and bomb us some more we might attempt to find you for a while, but don’t worry we will eventually give up” . And by the way aiding the middle east eventually aids us when we can stop sending them money because they can support themselves. I agree that we shouldn’t be sending our money over seas, however it’s inevitable. I’m pretty sure that all of you were all in support of Bush and HIS war when our Twin Towers fell to ground. But now when times are tough here you all want to back out and run with your tail between your legs. Why don’t you go live somewhere in the middle east for a week and then decide. As far as welfare it should only last 3 years tops! People need help at times. My husband is out of work, and I’m very grateful for the assistance I am currently receiving. But for those that breed for a raise every other year so they can sit on their ass and watch their big screen TV on their satellite while drinking beer and smoking crack, cigarettes whatever 3 years should definitely be the cap. They have the same opportunity to attend college as everyone else. In fact if your a minority you have don’t have to pay for your education. However if you just a regular American made white male like my husband you don’t qualify for shit. Yea all the Mexicans can go back to their own country instead of changing ours. I’m pretty sure we didn’t give language options on everything from paying a bill over the phone to filling out a welfare application to all the other immigrants so what the hell makes the Mexicans so freakin special. Could it be the fact that they are flooding in by the thousands and all we do is sit on our ass and bitch on sites like this. Why are Americans so willingly giving up their rights and freedoms and beliefs. Has anyone on here looked at any of Obama’s real plans. Do any of you have any idea the American he has pictured for us. I don’t want my child to serve in any civilian security force do you? I don’t think the rich should have to give to the poor simply because the poor are too stupid to obtain an education or are not motivated enough to do what it takes to get to the top. If you do a little research you will find that most of the extremely rich were born poor not with a silver spoon in their mouths. They had the ambition, the drive, and the desire to get to the top. Why the hell should they have to share that with you if they don’t want to. They donate enough to charities and fundraisers. If you want a piece of the wealth pie figure out how to get it instead of taxing, lawsuits, fraud etc. Why do you think so many companies and rich take their funds out of the country? Because of people like Obama who want to redistribute their wealth. I don’t blame them!
Wow Jeni u seem to know alot about the world and the way things are. Funny you should mention Mexicans. The thing is they come to this country for a better life and the opportunity to gain knowledge to bring back to their country and try to make it better. Fyi the Mexicans as u call them lived in most of the southern states before they were killed and driven out. Maybe u should read your history better. Unless you have walked in the shoes of the poor u can’t sit there and pass judgment on them. People are not poor by choice, its circumstances that causes it to happen. Secondly there are alot of Americans as u say sit on their asses and do nothin except killing, stealing,and abusing people and forming street gangs.People say the mexicans are stealing all the jobs, how many white janitors do u see at the malls, hotels, grocery stores and hospitals? FYI this is a capitalist country, the main point is exploiting the poor so the rich can stay rich. yeah rich people donate to charities but how many do it for a tax write off instead of doing it as a heartfelt gesture to help others? You talk about the war but you have no idea what is really going on in Iraq. Nobody has the right to play God. If the situation was reversed how would you feel? Have u lost anyone in the war? What about the twin towers? You can’t understand someone’s path unless u walk in their shoes. The poor don’t deserve to be poor. There is enough wealth in this country not to mention the world for that. You say your husband is out of a job and u r recieving aid, what makes you more deserving than someone else? Why is your situation the exception? Did you know that the six riches people in the US, their wealth is the equivalent of fifty countries? SIX PEOPLE!!! Look at celebrities like Paris Hilton what has she done for society? Party and make shows like my BFF? Has she ever worked hard for anything a day in her life? how many rich people are in rehab, been arrested,or just living it up wasting away their wealth partying and drinking it up? Have u ever been poor? How do u think rich people make their money? Not all oof them are born into money, we the less fortunate foolishly waste our money buying their merchandise like cell phones, big screen tv, cars, movies, cds, clothes and all for the sake of someone’s name or label.Life is hard for alot of people and for some no matter how hard they work and try there are people like you that try to cut them down.
First of all. You need to step back an think of what your saying. Your stupid ass is saying the poor people are poor,because they’re not trying to go get a degree and do better for them self. While the whole time your talking about the poor you get goverment assistance with your racis ass.Probaly don’t have a job.
Mmmmm I know what are you going to say when you read my comment and yes you are right I don’t speak English perfect and so too many North American either. Dear Ms Jeani I hope you have time to read history when you talk about americans? so your last name is green arrow? if the answer is yes you are a real american, or check into your family tree, and you will see that your family emigrate to North America too. Sorry to hear about education I am considered minority and I am still paying for my student loans, so welcome to the party. The solution is for the government to end welfare, to tax wall street, to put the brakes on China imports, to stop private wars and not to believe that USA is the cop of the world and follow their best line Mind your own business. You talking about a president that not even had take the seat, but looks like you are so happy with 8 yeas with an idiot that not even can read, check for videos on youtube and get informed, any way we are in deep &^%&&& and it will be for long time.
Jeni-
Where is the line for free tuition? Evidently, you haven’t done your homework. I am a minority, and I paid for school. I’ve never been on welfare, smoked crack or been on welfare. However, I have enjoyed a beer while sitting on my couch in front of my big screen, which I paid for. Also, people don’t breed, they give birth. I work hard for mines everyday. The rich should be taxed according to what they make. I am so what makes them so different? What makes a rich person exempt from paying their fair share? If I have to pay, why shouldn’t they? Just because they are rich? The fact of the matter is the rich make their money off of everyday hardworking people. As far as the twin towers, I was in New York (born and raised) when it happened and had friends that died there. Yes, the majority of us were ready for war. But I’m sorry, the weapons of mass destruction never turned up, Osama has not been found, and oil was at an all time high. Oh, wait, how can I forget the thousands of soldiers that have died on a wild goose chase? I for one am grateful we finally have someone in office that wants the rich to pay like they weigh, and wants America is be accountable for its actions while simultaneously exuding excellence. You seem very uh…patriotic… so just get over it. YOU HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT, and even though you don’t like him (which you don’t have to or any minority for that matter), he will still fight for you simply because you are not only an American, but a poor one. If you don’t like it, you could always leave and come back in 8 years.
Wow…Jenni. Ignorance at its finest. Oh and did I mention Bigotry as well. You can always send that check you are earning from the government back and get some motivation and determination to become that rich American you say is so easy to become. Blah blah blah…
why are we at war with Iraq anyway bin laden isn’t there,Why did bush forget all about him and go after Iraq.Oil?,Saving face for his daddy?Why did big daddy bush start a war with Iraq?There were no terrorist attacks then.I certainly dont think poor people are poor because there stupid, were just honest and have to much of a conscience to lie,cheat,steal,and kill our way to the top.Better stock up on food it’s hasn’t even begun to get bad yet.
Wow, jeni you suprise me with your intelligence. Umm the rich have ambitions? ummm ever heard of having strings, pull ect? hmmm for instance.. the typical work place, you tell me were a top position is just handed down to anyone who is a hard worker, always showed up for work when there suppose to and always on time? NEVER! in my years. There’s something called favoritism ie” friends, family ect that those jobs are ever handed down to, same shit as rising to power in goverment.. who can give more clout so don’t even come with that crap and people just sit on there ass’es. Opportunity isn’t just handed down to the well deserved, same as in politics, it’s who you know and how much money you have. America isn’t a land of opportunity anymore so don’t go knocking people bcoz of there status. Rich people buy there way to the top and to start all it takes is who you know, if it were that simple as you say it is then there would be plenty of people with money in there pocket. Maybe you need alittle education and i will offer you a free movie to watch, maybe you will learn something.. here it is and watchable on ur pc. click the link below, you will come back here much more smarter!
Hi this is the first time I have been on this site and some have good opions while others well….everyone has them. The stimulas check was good and another would be nice but.. we cant just expect one. One person said it is all about the middle class and helping them well…we work as hard as the upper and lower class and we are the ones taking the rap if we hit a hard spot we cant get gov. help because we have a 401k or a newer car. Some getting gov. assistance eat better then we do and get to pay their bills and stay at home and make sure their house stays clean, I come home after work and cook and clean. The upper class dont have to worry about hoping they can afford food after we have gas in the car for work next week. We have been smart and saw a few years back that things where getting rough and started planning ahead, trying to pay off bills, stocking up food, and buying only what is needed, and thank god we did, times are only getting harder and people need to stop and realize it and do something about it now before it gets worse, it can be done, I am proof.
What happen to the people who is on sec.8 and disability and cant work,why arent we included in package?
Did you file a tax return?I have an aunt and an uncle who are both on disability and they each recieved a stimulus check.They told me all they had to do was file and they received 300 instead of the 600 regular amount.
Well the government looks at it like you are already getting tax payers money and you arent getting anymore,and yes obama will make a small difference Im glad he is going in clintons direction god knows if he went with bush we would all be screwed bush is looking out for bush that is why the gas is going back up because he owns oil and why is diseal higher than gas it is a bi product off of gas come on truckers pull them over for a couple of days and watch the world panic, in other words give obama a shot even though clinton was a skirt chaser he got the job done!!!!!!!!
Giving clinton a shot was a mistake, look what she has already done to my great state of NY! its screwed up more over than it ever was. Now paterson wants to mess with the senneca indians, hope the indians give them one hell of a showdown this time, burning tires and shutting down the nys thruway is gonna be a minor thing compared to wut might happen this time. Assholes in albany are looking for ways to line there pockets then when its time to take care of the state it puts us in a deficit, so let all the NYkers keep paying for it. I think enough is enough, pretty soon no one will be living in western ny but the elected officials, now let them pay the budget out of there pockets.
And with Clinton being secetary of state shes going to give her opinion about everything. Im afraid we will wind up being in a war!!!!!!
There is no telling what she has in mind.
hey. give obama a chance, the best thing we can do is to do are best as an individual. About the second stimulus check? I hope all of us whose paying taxes should get it because we work hard for ourselves and for our family.
I have to say I have sit here and read almost all these comments. It sounds as if you guys actually have nothing else to do but bitch about this country. Whether you are an american or not, if you don’t like it…leave. Maybe that too will help make this place better. Don’t bother replying to me cause I have no idea how I found this website other than it is late and I can’t sleep. And I probably won’t answer cause I have better things to do. LOL-and I’m sitting here typing this now. You guys need a hobby or a good book.
How ’bout reading that book that the “poor” guy Obama wrote. Guess what, I am prior Navy and until you serve; you have no right to voice your opinion. And by the way, I am a die hare republican and I voted democrat. How’s that? Bush sucked and I don’t think we needed any more of that. Hey, where’s that self made billionaire that ran several years ago?? what was his name?? little short guy?? the republicand and the democrats have been running this country for how long?? and look where we are. How old are you kids? ever been through a recession or a depression? i don’t think you would like it. research that instead of voicing opinions on things that you guys don’t really know about. do some research on the things that you think you know about. be productive. now i’m bored..sleepy..going back to bed…i have to work. Monday – paid holiday until Monday..Nice. Night Night
LMAO!!! Trish, sounds like while other navy crewmen were busy keeping the ship maintained you were off sneaking downstairs in the arms storage room and huffing too much gunpowder. Your another one who has no clue what were talking about, wake up! THE TOPIC IS ABOUT STIMULUS CHECKS, its people like us that upset most of us here. Did ya ask santa for a new brain?
Merry xmas
grrrrrrrrrrrrrr just woke up and already a typo, was meaning to say its people like you and your comments trish that upset most of us here.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, as Trish says, she will not read this cause she says she is not coming back to this site…..and says that she does not know how she found it other than she could not sleep….and she says we all must not have anything else to do….Tables turned…..She must not have anything better to do then if she found this site and also maybe she is completely protected in her own little fantasy world and that is why she feels she has nothing to gripe about in the U.S. Sad to say but we all have something to “bitch” about. It is reality.
I was looking forward to the stimulus check that B. Obama had promised! It would have gone a long way clearing up my doctor bills so that I would have money left out of my weekly check to spend on non-essentials.
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Yeh well guess what, another lier politician gone wild, hey we should make one of them gone wild movies EXCEPT OF THE PRESIDENT’S lmao… looks like he found a loophole not a give us a stimulus check, instead were getting tax cuts in wich a WHOPPING 8.00 LESS a week will be JUST not taken out my federal taxes weekly for the duration of 09.. worse than what bush had done wow! at least bush gave us the money, obama’s plan were just not gonna pay a tiny, itty, bitty, little portion of federal taxes. I DON’T SEE HOW THAT’S SUPPOSE TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY.
I sure had my hopes up for him, looks like just another BS politician. That’s 3 lies already, and he hasn’t even taken office yet” boy were in for another ride. I bet this time instead of presidency making money off a war this time, there gonna make money off the stimulus package DEAL almost 1 trillion that’s gonna be passed in january, alotta pockets are gonna get filled, just not the people in desperate need!. MARK MY WORDS! BUSH HAD THE PRIVATE CONTRACTORS IN IRAQ EATING AWAY AT THE FUNDS FOR THE WAR, OBAMA’S GONNA HAVE SOME SORT OF PRIVATE CONTRACTORS THAT WILL EAT AWAY AT THE STIMULUS BILL.
the government could have gave the people more money to pay their bills instead of bailing of the banks we wouldn’t be in this mess to begin with. My husband was denied unemployment because he didn’t appeal in a timely manner. we had no address our well went dry and had to move. we have no home and do you think anyone cares that would be a big fat no.
wow should we get another check ? why not we give so much as it is each week from our checks why not . Nothing else seems to be working . I have many friends in other countries and i have to laugh when they refer to us as the land of the free and land of oppertunity. I tell them it has become the land getting hosed every time you turn around anymore i encourage no one to migrate here to the GREAT USA i feel anymore we all are exspected to bend over and take one for the team , send out the checks at least then they can blame it on us if it dont work lol
Another stimulus check wil not boost the economy. Though I would not complain with the extra cash….who would. It doesnt help us to get 600. What they should have done instead of giving giving giving to the multi billion dollar banks and companies to free up credit when none of the amercian people are spending anyway is take that 700 billion and give it to the people. I dont know the exact math but that could come out to like 20000 a person. Tell me you wouldnt be happy with an extra 20 grand in the bank. Hey by the way notice i said in the bank. WOW that means there will be money being put in banks…meaning banks have money to free up credit. AND OH MY GOD….people actually have money to buy things that would require credit. LIke financing that new TV or what have you. And by the way I agree with Jenni. There should be a cap on well fare. And before you think Im going racial I do know there are more white people then blacks on wellfare…..but they should have to get up and get a job like everyone else. AND I DONT BLAME RICH PEOPLE FOR BEING RICH. Dont tell me if you had the chance to become “even more” rich and famous over a sex tape you wouldnt. Please…..If you were rich you would all be the same. For those that beg give give give or “we owe you” ask others that make money why they arnt complaining. Cause they got off there butts and did something.
Fine put a cap on well fare– but is there really any jobs out there for people to take NOOOO!!! And if you put 20000 in the bank they would take it if you owed yea you are getting your bill paid but maybe you could have used a more dependable car to get you to that job thats 50 miles away. Think about that
HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! NICE TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE POOR AND NOT ABOUT THEMSELVES!!! LOL!!IM FOR ANYTHING AND ANYONE THAT CAN TRY TO CHANGE THIS COUNTRY. BUT AS FOR THE ‘PEOPLE’ THAT SHOULD GO BACK TO WHERE THEY COME FROM! WELL THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THIS COUNTRY WOULD NOT BE THE LAND OF THE FREE BUT THE LAND OF RACISISM!! RIGHT?? I FOR ONE LOVE THIS COUNTRY THAT MY ANCESTERS LOVED AND STILL DO! IM AMERICAN INDIAN (CHEREKEE) AND MY ANCESTERS WERE HERE BEFORE ANYONE ELSE WAS BUT YOU WOULD NEVER HEAR ME SCREME ‘GO BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRIES BECAUSE WE ALL BELONG HERE IN THIS COUNTRY. THIS IS GODS WORLD NOT OURS. NOW AS FOR THIS STIMULAS CHECK THAT WE ARE SUPPOSE TO GET. WELL I HOPE AND PRAY THAT IT HAPPENS FOR EVERYONE. WE ALL NEED IT. WE NEED TO ALL STOP THROWING A FIT AND COME TOGETHER AS ONE. AS FOR THE RICH. WELL, THEY CANT TAKE IT WITH THEM WHEN THEY DIE. SO LET THEM KEEP THEY’RE SO CALLED MONEY. THE POOR DONT NEED IT. WE HAVE SURVIVED A LONG TIME ON STRUGGLE. I KNOW I AM POOR. IM DISABLED WITH CANCER AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS. THIS IS NOT SAID FOR PITY FOR I WOULD NEVER ASK. IM ON SSI AND WOULD WHETHER WORK IF I COULD. A LITTLE 600 CHECK IS NOTHING. I AM NOT AGAINST THIS SOON TO BE PRESIDENT. I DONT WANT ANOTHER DEPRESSION THAT MY GRANDMOTHER TALKED ABOUT WHEN I WAS A KID. I FOR ONE WANT TO GIVE OBAMA A CHANCE. MAYBE HE CAN CHANGE AMERICA AND PUT THE USA BACK TO THE LAND OF THE OPPORTUNITY AND FREE. SO PLEASE EVERYONE STOP COMPLAINING. STOP AND THINK BEFORE EXPRESSING YOUR COMMENTS. WE ALL ARE ON THIS BIG ROLLER COASTER AND LIKE IT OR NOT WE ARE FOR ONE HECK OF A RIDE. SO GET READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HELL YEA…that is what I’m talking about
THANX, GIRL!!! IS THERE ANYONE ELSE?????
Hermon and those of us who think like him are the ones on track. I dont need to write a novel to get a point across. I did not vote for Obama and still wouldnt. I will give him a chance, however anyone and everyone who thinks he will “save us” is dreaming. HE IS NOT A ONE MAN SHOW and government, no matter who is running it cannot save the people. The people need to be the ones to save our country. One man and his promises cannot and will not do that. Wake up, get a life and quite depending on government to “bail us out”
Wow, someone musta opened a can and out you came.. lol. What you think were idiots? no one man can but what were lacking is a leader who gives a shit about there people who put them there and he so far might be the one america is longing for. As far as bailing us out? its not called bailing us out, its called a helping hand, a helping hand when times are so bad. The financial sector is getting it so why shouldn’t we?.. after all, it is our money anyway’s. With us the economy, no business will survive as you can already see many that are going under, so the longer they put off helping us the people the more and more banks, business will fail. The solution is not helping the financial sector, its about helping the cash strapped consumers, as you can also see that banks are hoarding the cash and still not lending.. had they giving those billions and billions of dollars to the consumers,.. people would be out spending and taxes would also be collected for state and federal so in all reality” there going in the wrong direction. BANKS WILL ONLY USE THE MONEY TO MAKE THEM STRONGER IE” BUY OUT OTHER FIRMS, CEO BONUSES, WEEKEND GETAWAYS FOR COMPANY CEO’S, PRIVATE JET FLIGHTS ECT. So don’t come here and talk like were a bunch of idiot’s. Remember, it’s idiots like hermoine and his magic harry potter wand that makes his comments so retarded.
PS: HERE IS YOUR COMMENT THAT HAS ME SCRATCHING MY HEAD” The people need to be the ones to save our country.
Hmmmm lets all go to the store and rub rocks together and buy something we all direly need and pay for it with hot rocks!
ur an idiot! if goverment gave the public the billions that the banks got, we would be able to save ourselfs and the economy!
Well yes another check would greatly help us all. And for the ones who believe that all people on warefare are lazy people who wont get off their behinds you need to think twice. I am on warefare but i also work and the only reason I am is because is hard to raise and support 4 small children by myself and before you think it now I am not a ho. My darling husband decided that he would run off and be single and get away with not paying child support and yes I am white and so is he. If these types of men were not so sorry alot of women wouldn’t need help. So unless you know what you talking about you should keep your mouth shut and also how can you judge a man good or bad when he is not in office yet. All we can do is hope he can and will help us all get out of these hard times that we have all had apart of getting ourselves in to.
Maybe if you learned how to spell you could get a better job!
For many years, or rather many centuries, this country has scene its share of presidents. I think each and every president has gone into office with the intentions of making a difference and making changes. There have been changes for the good and there have been changes for the bad(the economy!). The stimulus check is something that would be appreciated, but why do we need another one? The first stimulus check that was given to us was used as something to boost the economy. I guess it didn’t do much, since we’re receiving another one. Is this stimulus check going to work? I really would like to see what Obama is going to do to improve this economy since past presidents jacked it up.
and cw1981, i agree with you. People should not talk about welfare if they aren’t on it or only have a commonor negative view towards it.
the welfare system is a good way for people to get back on their feet but too many abuse it. im not saying that everyone on welfare is lazy but most are. if you have a legit reason to be on welfare than im more than happy to contribute but its these leeches of society who feel that welfare is owed to them. its disgusting to think of these people who contnue to have children that they cant support. if you couldnt afford 2 why the hell would you have a third? but this contunes to happen because people know that the government will continue to support them, or should i say, the tax payers will continue to support them. again, im not saying that welfare or everyone on it is bad, if you have a job and still need some help thats fine, you are making an effort to better your situation but if you just sit at home and pop out babies then you need to be cut off.
This comment is to the TEEN who has commented on WELFARE! Let me start by saying that i respect your comments on the economic stimulous ideas but when you start defending some Welfare recipents that do nothing but abuse the system, then you need to take a back seat and listen to what i have to say. As a recent Hard working american that has worked since i was 15 years old, and who is now retired due to numerous injuries to neck and back, I dont appreiate walking into a grocery store to spend my hard earned money and stand in line to see capable AMERICANS WHO COULD GET OFF THERE LAZY BEHINDS and find a job, To pay for a buggy load of groceries with not one GREEN CARD but to stand in line and watch them pull out another one and say PUT THE REMAINING BALANCE on this card. Then when they leave, look out side and see AMERICANS driving off in a new LEXUS, CADILLAC, MALIBU, VOLVO, and so on. Yes, and this is tax free because working AMERICANS have to pay for it. Can you HONESTLY tell ME that this is O:K? If you agree with this, You need to stay in the back seat and do alot more growing up and keep your comments to yourself!!! GOOD LUCK IN LIFE BECAUSE APPARENTLY YOU ARE GOING TO NEED IT, AND PROBABLY WILL END UP ON WELFARE YOURSELF!!!!!!!
excuse pritchard gary but you mite wanna check yourself. what i put on my comment is my opinion. i am not goin to end up on welfare. Just because I put down what i think is going on doesn’t give you that right to start predicting peoples future. Maybe I do need to do some growing up. Duh. And okay wow. you have been working since 15. Thats not the first time i’ve heard that.
this is to PritchardGary
I’m usually not a rude person…but i read a comment you made talking about your visit to a grocery store…and I can;t help but say it seems as if you are having a hard time…you see just because you see some one spending of a card does’nt mean they don’t work..they might work and just don’t make enough…they might be shopping for a friend with their friend’s card and driving their grandfathers cadillac…it might be someone who worked all their life but their spouse got killed in iraq and now they can’t support themselves without government assistance…so before you judge get the big picture everybody was’nt born with a silver spoon and sometimes people have to start at the bottom before they reach the top…but the way you sound if i were you i’d ask the government for help so you won’t have to suffer and start critizing innocent people you don’t know.
That is why I voted for Elvis Presley!!
I think Elvis is dead.
NO!!!! remember Elvis is still alive in the house…’LOL’.
i guess we’ll see if obama changes sides eventually huh? he says its time for a change
THIS MY POINT IF YOU DIDNT VOTE YOU REALLY DONT HAVE A SAY. OBAMA IS A GOOD GUY AND MAY NOT DO ALL THE CHANGES HE IS SAYING HE WILL BUT I BELIEVE HE WILL DO EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER TO ATTEMPT THEM THIS NOT AN OVER NIGHT SITUATION AGAIN IT TOOK US YEARS TO GET US IN THIS MESS AND IT WILL TAKE YEARS TO GET US OUT STOP RAGGING OBAMA WHO CARES IF YOU VOTED FOR HIM OR NOT HE IS OUR PRESIDENT GIVE THE MAN A CHANCE ITS RIDICULUS PEOPLE CAN BE SO NEGATIVE AND STUPID
yes I strongly agree with you We need to give obama a chance to try to change the ecomony with the help of god he will make it
As Americans we should be asking what can we do for our country, not what our country can do for us. Dont turn America into a socialist nation.
And capitialism has worked so perfectly.
saladdin
r we gettn a check
CAN ANYONE TELL ME IF MY PREVIOUS COMMENT TO THE TEEN POST IN REFERENCE WELFARE? THANKS
iT’S O:K, I SEE IT DID. NO HARD FEELIGS, JUST THE TRUTH!!
There are many different subjects I see that are mentioned here. I agree with one person’s opinion, if they gave back to the citizens/tax payers what they used for the high corp bailouts we could have bailed ourselves out. Billions of dollars broken down to every tax paying citizen, and I mean legal CITIZEN, we could buy our own vehicles which would stimulate the automobile industry and the smae for housing. We could pay off ou homes and that would put money back in to the hands of the banks, instead of bailing out the banks,and we’re left holding nothing. We could have paid of many things, put ourselves into better financial positions and then be the Americans that we are, we would turn around and spend money that we could now afford to do so. Bailing out big companies who care nothing for us or do nothing for us was not the solution. but hey, I’m a believer that until the government has to live as we do, pay for thier medical benefits, pay into the social security system and prepare to live off of it later nothing will change. Every congressman, senator, president etc… receives free helth care benefits, permanent pensions (as do thier spouses) hell, even the president gets free postage stamps for life! They don’t live on the same playing field as we do. Live on $50,000.00 dollars a year? I’d love it, I make (after 26 years in a hospital and a college education – $35,000.00 a year. I’d love to sit down with any polition and discuss the word indigent and charity… I run these prorams and I see the people that have to live on nothing and no medical benefits. Any ways, my point is quit giving at the top, give back to the people. Whatever happened to no taxation without representation? Oh yeah, as soon as those wars were won the american people were immediatley taxed on other items. Depending on where you live, it’s tax tax tax. Federal tax, state tax, county tax, school tax, property tax, car tax… gas, food you name it and the AMerican people are taxed beyond belief. Sorry so long winded.
PEOPLE PLEASE DONT LOOSE YOUR FAITH.Because if you do dig a hole and put yourself in it.Some companies are practicing illegal hiring procedures anyway.We need to get good honest people in management in all companies that treat all people fair.I encourage people in this country to stand up and be counted and stop being selfish.EVEN IF OUR PRESIDENT HELP US WILL WE GO BACK TO OUR SAME OLD WAYS .REMEBER YOU DID VOTE FOR CHANGE START WITH YOURSELF.
Hi, first time here. I think there’s something most wealthy don’t realize. If everyone in this country were rich, the country wouldn’t run! I and my family live poverty level even though I retired from my job about 8 years ago because of illness. I receive no retirement income. My husband will be able to retire in another 4 years with a small retirement income. We raised a large family on very little though we both worked. I get so tired sometimes of hearing how no one needs to be poor. That people are poor because of not having enough education or other ’statistical’ nonsense. If you have those who are wealthy, you WILL have those who are poor. Who would run the grocery stores, gas stations, laundry mats, car lubes, etc? Who would work cleaning up in hospitals, schools and other buildings. Who would be waitresses, cab drivers, bus drivers, etc. Not only our country, but our world runs on the backs of those who make very little while many of the wealthy put them down and come up with reasons why they shoulda been, coulda been rich. I didn’t vote for Obama but not for the reasons most would think. Mine are moral alone! However, since He is our president and willing to give money to those who are already wealthy and haven’t done right by the people with the money they’ve been instrusted with, I do believe we, the average Americans, and we, those of us who struggle every day just to keep food on the table, should be the ones to receive the hard, earned money we’ve been payng out in taxes to those who don’t care what they do with that money.
I would love to have a little time without so much worry about how to pay a bill or to buy a little better food. Even if it’s just for a short time, it would be so nice to have the little space of relief after all these years. The last stimulus package through Bush was just enough to pay a couple of past due bills, which I was very greatful for. I’m hoping this one is enough to pay a bill or two and still be able to eat well for a couple of weeks.
But that’s just my wish. I realize, as does every hard working person that is still living at poverty level, that life is hard and there aren’t any earthly people or things that are going to make it any better. This is life in the real world.
I’m praying too that our country gets the chance to remain until we do get back on our feet. If we let our security laps even one bit, we are in great danger of those in our world who would love to see us blown to bits. Then, I suppose there would be no rich or poor or middle class and no stimulus package that would ever make a difference.
I’m just praying that in the years to come, we don’t move any further downward than we are right now, today. I will be happy to live just as I’ve always lived, in peace and security even without money in my mail. God help us all!
God Bless You. I know about living at poverty level. I am a 63 yr. olddisabled sr. forced to retire at age 33 due to a massive stroke, which left me disabled. My husband left, so I have been struggling to have a roof over my head and food on the table. My faith in the Good Lord is the only thing that gets me through each day. I also live in peace and security with no money in the mail.
I do have faith and I believe in my country, but I also have eyes and ears and it is my responsiblity as well as every other citizen to speak up and call it like it is. This is our American right to speak up. Government needs to level the playing field a little, live by the same rules we live by, insurances, pays, benefits, social security system, medicare…until our government lives by these rules as we do nothing will change. They can’t see the needs of the every day average American.
I was home sick the day of the inauguration, I couldn’t believe the money that must have been spent on 7(?) balls? Or when they were introducing the political figures, this is the assistant to …. and the sargent of arms… and the assistant to the assistant to the congressman… the list went on. I guess these people need jobs as well, but really, how much do they make in the government world that our tax money is paying for? Greedneeds to stop at the top. Answer thier own phones once in a while, it would be good for them to speak to a real American once in awhile. As far as the stimulus check, anything is better than nothing, I live in Florida and from May – Oct an average home electric bill runs 2-$350.00 a month. A stimulus check might help pay for 2 months if I’m lucky.That’s not running the a/c real cold,that’s keeping it around 80 degrees. In my job, I’m watching people being diagnosed with cancer and other conditions, losing their jobs, no food, most of the food banks are empty and pleading for donations. the list goes on, we need to help our own before we consider anyone else. The future is scarey and uncertain for many. God Bless us all and watch over each and every person, we’re going to need it.
Dear Dear Sarah,
I can tell by your intellectual answer that you are a very motivating and educated person. It is people such as you that give us Americans a real nice look. For your information I am a Democrat. However insteading of swearing and insulting people I choose to use my right to free speech and speak intelligently on truths. Sorry you opionion of me is so lacking, but personally I don’t really care. I’ve never asked anyone for any type of assistance, however I have been in the position to assist many and I’ve never looked down on one person. Too bad you can’t say the same.
This is my first time to join to your conversation. Let’s all give Obama a chance for change, the change should start within us lets all do our part to make a better life and leave the rest to our God,
About the second stimulus check, well, all of us who work and pay taxes should be getting it no matter what the situation might be, I don’t care if you are rich or poor, if you file your income tax you sholud be able to get it. We all need a little help.
I think that the chane the nation has had happened is wonderful.I say this because so many people need to be shown something different,in order to chande their thinking process. Obama is a guy…he’s a guy that has went through hardship so that is why it is easy for him to understand the problems that americans are having now (the hardship). Obama has not put his self higher then the rest of us (Although he could),he has keep himself on the same level. the level were americans, no matter if rich or poor can feel comfortable and every day he reaches out to americans to let us know that there is someone thinking about what hardships we endure…he’s the PRESIDENT. People have forgotton how to care about what others go through especially if they have’nt first hand experience what it feels like to (go through things) obama knows…he understands…and he wants to releive that rough period just a little…so we should be grateful that there is somebody in theWhite House that takes the time to treat others with the respect to just care…
Hey Demi Taylor, boo freakn whoo, obviously if President Obama can be poor growing up and become the President of The United States of America with no help, then anyone can do it. Why should we feel sorry for people who are loosing their jobs and homes. They are probly the ones in high school who partied all night and got bad grades. There are colleges where people wanting a better way of life can go and get that. We should not feel sympathy for people settling for average instead of trying for better. Also, people loosing their homes is their own fault. The say the banked put them in a home they can not afford, where is the self responsibility to no if you can afford the house or not do your own budgeting
Dear Big Guy:
You are so wrong. Not feel sorry for people because they lost their homes and jobs? It is their own fault? Okay, let’s say that there are some people in with that whole big group where it is their fault but it is definitely not everyones fault. Different circumstances bring along different consequences and end results. Noone can predict that absolute future when they first start out on a goal. Some people that have lost their jobs or their homes will probably come back out of it later on but not right now, so yes, I do feel sorry for them and I also feel sorry for you because you do not live in reality and have your head in the clouds.
what about a stimulis check for the disabled and the old over 80 years old;
Iam looking forward to a second stimulus check and yes it helped me the first time also. For all those that are doubting Obama, dont except the extra when we get it since you did not think it was going to happen.
I think that everyone who is talking about Obama is stupid and needs to join Bush on his ranch. I guess stupid people like Hermon don’t have a life
why is everyone complaining? After all we all are going to get what $13.00 back in our weekly paychecks. What more could you ask for?
Maybe you but not me. There is a lot to complain about when everyone is messed up out here!!!
Thanks Bigs! I don’t think people realzie that we’re not getting a big check in the mail, it’s a tiny disperment in our weekly checks that ends up about 15-20 dollars every two weeks. So if you’re sitting home wondering how you’re going to spend the check when it comes, forget it. It’s money that is being stimulated back into our own paychecks, that’s the tax break.
Talk about a let down with the stimulus check. I almost had to laugh when I heard cause it sure does no good to cry about it. lol. I think I will spend the extra 8.00 or so each week on the increase that my grocery bill, insurance, etc is bound to have through this next year. I am still for Obama and believe that we have a chance though. I do not know after hearing about the stimulus check if it was such a good idea though. We will see. I do not know how the economy is going to pull out of it. We still do not have a good enough plan, but I guess we have to start some where.
We all should probably stop acting like one person can change the way the world is. As i see it we are all screwed no matter who is in the presidents seat! Very soon no one will be able to afford anything. We should worry more about what life holds for our children. in the future how will they manage. News flash people its only our children who are really going to suffer. Obama made a lot of promises just like the rest of them and i havent seen anything carried through yet! if something were then we would not be in this situation right now.. Think about it! So what gas is up to 4 bucks a gallon and has gone down to under 2 bucks a gallon people its going to go back up its already started.10 years from now gas is going to be way to much for the children of the future to even think about affording. they will have to work just to pay to go to work.. we think we got it bad .. there going to have it a lot worse then we do. so it dont matter whos in the presidents seat this world is going to HELL