Comments on: The Most Interesting Resume Bullet You’ve Ever Seen http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html personal finance blog with anecdotes, advice and commentary. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 23:30:41 +0000 hourly 1 By: Jim http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html/comment-page-1#comment-383022 Jim Tue, 03 Jan 2012 22:05:57 +0000 http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html#comment-383022 I just wanted to take a moment to respond to this, being an older adult that is and has been for quite some time, in a position where I review resumes and hire people to fill posted job positions. I typically skim the resumes and build 3 stacks (they are: "defiantly want to talk to", "will talk to if I can't find anyone better", and the "you've got to be on crack"). Turn in a resume to me with a bullet about a game on it (unless you were the one that developed/designed/marketed etc) and it's going in the "you've got to be on crack" stack and will shortly be in the trash for no other reason than it looks unprofessional and tells me that you just can't come up with anything better to fill that space with. I just wanted to take a moment to respond to this, being an older adult that is and has been for quite some time, in a position where I review resumes and hire people to fill posted job positions. I typically skim the resumes and build 3 stacks (they are: “defiantly want to talk to”, “will talk to if I can’t find anyone better”, and the “you’ve got to be on crack”).
Turn in a resume to me with a bullet about a game on it (unless you were the one that developed/designed/marketed etc) and it’s going in the “you’ve got to be on crack” stack and will shortly be in the trash for no other reason than it looks unprofessional and tells me that you just can’t come up with anything better to fill that space with.

]]> By: anthony http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html/comment-page-1#comment-329324 anthony Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:17:33 +0000 http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html#comment-329324 500 or 5000 as a Hiring Manager how does it relate to the job? Is it linked in any way to a skill (leadership, dedication, loyalty, charisma...and does that relate to the job?) Knowing people view gamers as dweebs, living in their moms basement, spending 20 hours a day online (stereotype) would I then list it? How does this add to my resume and sell it better than without it. *utilizing my excellent interpersonal and communication skills I have recruited and maintained an online team of 5000 members, a new record in WoW, something 'experts' said couldn't be done. However if 500 is the limit and I the recruiter know that, he wouldn't get an interview. Its not embellishment, its LYING. 500 or 5000 as a Hiring Manager how does it relate to the job?

Is it linked in any way to a skill (leadership, dedication, loyalty, charisma…and does that relate to the job?)

Knowing people view gamers as dweebs, living in their moms basement, spending 20 hours a day online (stereotype) would I then list it? How does this add to my resume and sell it better than without it.

*utilizing my excellent interpersonal and communication skills I have recruited and maintained an online team of 5000 members, a new record in WoW, something ‘experts’ said couldn’t be done.

However if 500 is the limit and I the recruiter know that, he wouldn’t get an interview. Its not embellishment, its LYING.

]]> By: Glindale http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html/comment-page-1#comment-327776 Glindale Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:58:25 +0000 http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html#comment-327776 As an avid WOW player almost from it's inception, I definitely think that you can tell a lot about people who play, to include whether they'd make a good employee. In fact, as a professional, I talked at length to a person in my guild about working for our company, even though I had never met him. When you spend a lot of time playing online with someone and talking to them live on Ventrilo or Teamspeak (a Skype type communication system), you can tell a lot about a person to include their honesty and integriy and abilities to handle people and problems. In the case where the person put down he was the GM of a 5,000 person guild, I'd discount him right off the bat, based on the fact, guilds can't be that big. Therefore, he's quite an embellisher. As an avid WOW player almost from it’s inception, I definitely think that you can tell a lot about people who play, to include whether they’d make a good employee. In fact, as a professional, I talked at length to a person in my guild about working for our company, even though I had never met him. When you spend a lot of time playing online with someone and talking to them live on Ventrilo or Teamspeak (a Skype type communication system), you can tell a lot about a person to include their honesty and integriy and abilities to handle people and problems. In the case where the person put down he was the GM of a 5,000 person guild, I’d discount him right off the bat, based on the fact, guilds can’t be that big. Therefore, he’s quite an embellisher.

]]> By: loser http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html/comment-page-1#comment-307138 loser Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:14:09 +0000 http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html#comment-307138 Funny how you talk trash about "gamers" yet you can not spell out a complete sentance. I'm willing to bet that it is in fact you who has a boring life and feels the need to type such nonsense to get some excitement. You are truly special! Funny how you talk trash about “gamers” yet you can not spell out a complete sentance. I’m willing to bet that it is in fact you who has a boring life and feels the need to type such nonsense to get some excitement. You are truly special!

]]> By: Mike http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html/comment-page-1#comment-96566 Mike Wed, 23 May 2007 15:30:03 +0000 http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html#comment-96566 I have not played WoW, but I was a guild leader in Everquest several years ago, and I would never list it on my resume. For those who are not familiar with MMOGs, I wouldn't see any benefit. For those who are familiar with it, there is too much stigma about being addicted to MMOGs for me to risk listing it on a resume. The media coverage of MMOGs talks about people who play for endless hours, to the detriment of their work and personal lives. My personal experience with guild leaders isn't entirely inconsistent with that, either--most of the guild leaders I knew on Everquest would seem to play almost constantly. The guild leader who preceded me would play *from work*, on a regular basis. Certainly I wouldn't generalize that to all guild leaders, and when I was guild leader I did not play obsessively. I also did make use of my prior leadership and organizational experience to strengthen the guild and make them more self-sufficient without an omnipresent guild leader to hold their hands. Yes, it can be a difficult "job", and requires certain qualities that not everyone possesses. However, there are too many potentially negative associations for me to put that information in front of an employer. I have not played WoW, but I was a guild leader in Everquest several years ago, and I would never list it on my resume. For those who are not familiar with MMOGs, I wouldn’t see any benefit. For those who are familiar with it, there is too much stigma about being addicted to MMOGs for me to risk listing it on a resume.

The media coverage of MMOGs talks about people who play for endless hours, to the detriment of their work and personal lives. My personal experience with guild leaders isn’t entirely inconsistent with that, either–most of the guild leaders I knew on Everquest would seem to play almost constantly. The guild leader who preceded me would play *from work*, on a regular basis.

Certainly I wouldn’t generalize that to all guild leaders, and when I was guild leader I did not play obsessively. I also did make use of my prior leadership and organizational experience to strengthen the guild and make them more self-sufficient without an omnipresent guild leader to hold their hands. Yes, it can be a difficult “job”, and requires certain qualities that not everyone possesses.

However, there are too many potentially negative associations for me to put that information in front of an employer.

]]> By: AaronV http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html/comment-page-1#comment-92954 AaronV Fri, 11 May 2007 20:50:05 +0000 http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html#comment-92954 I agree that you shouldn't stereotype the guy for being a gamer, but he's obviously a liar. 6000 members is impossible even if it's across servers or a clan or whatever, and the fact that he claims he is the leader shows that he doesn't even know how guilds work in WoW. We have a 40 member guild with three leaders/founders and we've all been in other guilds. When it gets up to about 200, that's usually 50 players with 4 or 5 alts each and when we were at 250 in other guild it was hard to get a meeting together with more than 25 guys at a time. It's just used to share skills and get people to help you run through dungeons. I'd be more impressed with him managing a 20 member group that had been there for 2 years than being a "leader" of a 6000 member group. Toss it! ***BS ALARM*** I agree that you shouldn’t stereotype the guy for being a gamer, but he’s obviously a liar. 6000 members is impossible even if it’s across servers or a clan or whatever, and the fact that he claims he is the leader shows that he doesn’t even know how guilds work in WoW. We have a 40 member guild with three leaders/founders and we’ve all been in other guilds. When it gets up to about 200, that’s usually 50 players with 4 or 5 alts each and when we were at 250 in other guild it was hard to get a meeting together with more than 25 guys at a time. It’s just used to share skills and get people to help you run through dungeons. I’d be more impressed with him managing a 20 member group that had been there for 2 years than being a “leader” of a 6000 member group.

Toss it! ***BS ALARM***

]]> By: Jack Thompson http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html/comment-page-1#comment-92416 Jack Thompson Thu, 03 May 2007 21:16:11 +0000 http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html#comment-92416 Don't forget that 90%, err... I mean almost 100% of gamers are potential mass murders. Don’t forget that 90%, err… I mean almost 100% of gamers are potential mass murders.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html/comment-page-1#comment-92368 Jeff Wed, 02 May 2007 20:00:19 +0000 http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html#comment-92368 Stereo typing at its finest. why you are at it you might as well say you dont hire Hispanic people because they are lazy. I am truly thankful that i do not have a manager as ignorant as you are. Stereo typing at its finest. why you are at it you might as well say you dont hire Hispanic people because they are lazy. I am truly thankful that i do not have a manager as ignorant as you are.

]]> By: WoWEscapee http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html/comment-page-1#comment-92299 WoWEscapee Tue, 01 May 2007 13:34:44 +0000 http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html#comment-92299 It's true that the WoW in-game guild mechanism is capped at 500, but it's common for a guild to just form secondary guilds when you reach the cap. It's also extremely common for the "uber successful" WoW guilds to have chapters on every server. It’s true that the WoW in-game guild mechanism is capped at 500, but it’s common for a guild to just form secondary guilds when you reach the cap. It’s also extremely common for the “uber successful” WoW guilds to have chapters on every server.

]]> By: Kitanis http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html/comment-page-1#comment-92276 Kitanis Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:58:19 +0000 http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html#comment-92276 Guilds are hard to pin down. I am the squad CO of the Battleground Europe Squad, Black Knight Brigade. In-Game tab shows a membership of over a 1300 souls.. but I estimate that only 600 are active subscribers to the game.. the rest have left or left their memberships lasp. The game dose not make the provision of a clean up easy. but my website shows a active membership of over 700 users. Go figure.. but if you do actively lead a guild or Clan.. your BUSY!!! but not too sure if thats a empoyable bullet. Guilds are hard to pin down.

I am the squad CO of the Battleground Europe Squad, Black Knight Brigade.

In-Game tab shows a membership of over a 1300 souls.. but I estimate that only 600 are active subscribers to the game.. the rest have left or left their memberships lasp.

The game dose not make the provision of a clean up easy. but my website shows a active membership of over 700 users.

Go figure.. but if you do actively lead a guild or Clan.. your BUSY!!! but not too sure if thats a empoyable bullet.

]]> By: James http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html/comment-page-1#comment-92267 James Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:39:07 +0000 http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html#comment-92267 You're full of crap. The guild may only show in-game as 500 members, but I was in a 500+ member guild (Dark Souls on Antonidas server) for several months. The new WoW armory (in Beta) has guild stats and there are guilds w/ members numbering in the 1000's. So...I call BS. You’re full of crap. The guild may only show in-game as 500 members, but I was in a 500+ member guild (Dark Souls on Antonidas server) for several months. The new WoW armory (in Beta) has guild stats and there are guilds w/ members numbering in the 1000′s. So…I call BS.

]]> By: Andy Lester http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html/comment-page-1#comment-92255 Andy Lester Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:49:46 +0000 http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html#comment-92255 If your potential employer has any savvy whatsoever, they should know that you're a blogger from Googling your name. I would never even consider calling someone in for an interview without checking their Web footprint. If your potential employer has any savvy whatsoever, they should know that you’re a blogger from Googling your name. I would never even consider calling someone in for an interview without checking their Web footprint.

]]> By: dranoz http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html/comment-page-1#comment-92251 dranoz Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:58:36 +0000 http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html#comment-92251 Um, I find that pretty easy to believe - if everything else is more or less equal, I'll hire the person I think I'm going to get along with. Plus...how does that even come up? Gotta tell you, if I'm interviewing someone and they tell me off the cuff that they don't like cats, I would find that o.d.d. odd. And if I ask - I wouldn't - the smart answer is always benign neutrality. Ex: Q: "So, do you like cats?", A: "Never really been around them much, but they don't bother me." But mainly...how'd that come up? Your bro's statement/response must have left quite an impression... Um, I find that pretty easy to believe – if everything else is more or less equal, I’ll hire the person I think I’m going to get along with.

Plus…how does that even come up? Gotta tell you, if I’m interviewing someone and they tell me off the cuff that they don’t like cats, I would find that o.d.d. odd. And if I ask – I wouldn’t – the smart answer is always benign neutrality. Ex: Q: “So, do you like cats?”, A: “Never really been around them much, but they don’t bother me.”

But mainly…how’d that come up? Your bro’s statement/response must have left quite an impression…

]]> By: Kevin http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html/comment-page-1#comment-92250 Kevin Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:36:41 +0000 http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html#comment-92250 While "no's" comments are ridiculous stereotypes likely designed to get a reaction, the reason that double-standard spoke of is because sports are respected and high-level games have a negative (incorrect) stereotype attached to them - antisocial dweebs living in their mom's basement, avoiding sunlight and pleasuring themselves repeatedly throughout the day. While “no’s” comments are ridiculous stereotypes likely designed to get a reaction, the reason that double-standard spoke of is because sports are respected and high-level games have a negative (incorrect) stereotype attached to them – antisocial dweebs living in their mom’s basement, avoiding sunlight and pleasuring themselves repeatedly throughout the day.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html/comment-page-1#comment-92247 Kevin Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:03:13 +0000 http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-most-interesting-resume-bullet-youve-ever-seen.html#comment-92247 I have to say, as a 23 year old gamer, that I take offense to this post. Sure, some "gamers" are irresponsible or screwed up, but lumping all of us together is the same kind of thinking that is getting Jack Thompson in trouble these days. I've been playing Video Games since I was 5, starting with old black and white educational software and moving up to computer and console games. My love of gaming is what led me into pursuing Computer Science as a field of study in college, and now I have a non-gaming related job that pays just shy of $50,000 only a year out of school. In addition, I'm considered rather mature for my age, consistently come up with and flesh out ideas for stories, game concepts, and new solutions to old problems, and am oftentimes considered the life of the party. So please, before grouping all us "gamers" together under one umbrella, research things that "gamers" have accomplished. We're not all the 35 year old living off our parents, and working to support a $50 a month hobby that involves staring at a screen all night and laughing at words written using numbers instead of letters. I have to say, as a 23 year old gamer, that I take offense to this post. Sure, some “gamers” are irresponsible or screwed up, but lumping all of us together is the same kind of thinking that is getting Jack Thompson in trouble these days. I’ve been playing Video Games since I was 5, starting with old black and white educational software and moving up to computer and console games. My love of gaming is what led me into pursuing Computer Science as a field of study in college, and now I have a non-gaming related job that pays just shy of $50,000 only a year out of school. In addition, I’m considered rather mature for my age, consistently come up with and flesh out ideas for stories, game concepts, and new solutions to old problems, and am oftentimes considered the life of the party. So please, before grouping all us “gamers” together under one umbrella, research things that “gamers” have accomplished. We’re not all the 35 year old living off our parents, and working to support a $50 a month hobby that involves staring at a screen all night and laughing at words written using numbers instead of letters.

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