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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your new employer is wrong. The President doesn&#039;t have that authority, Congress does.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the United States Constitution says: &quot;The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your new employer is wrong. The President doesn&#8217;t have that authority, Congress does.</p>
<p>Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the United States Constitution says: &#8220;The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My new employer informed me that the president increased federal taxes for 2010, is this true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My new employer informed me that the president increased federal taxes for 2010, is this true?</p>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 22:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What we need is to go to the FAIR TAX system. that way everybody pays thrieto pay our taxes fair share no matter if you make $100 per week or $1oo,000 if you buy something you pay tax but the money you earn or get for retirement in yours to spend as you see fit, not the goverment. Do away with the IRS entirely.  go to the hospital care like Canada hasand most Europian countries. That way every one has healthcare and does not have to choose wheather to buy their needed perscriptions or eat this month. At the end of the year if we had fair tax we would not have to worry how we are going to pay the additional taxes with the Fair Tax they would be paid.  Not let credit card companies charge more than 6% interest that is on any type of credit card.  People who pay their mortages if interest rate is higher than 6.99% reduce it to that, and people who have a lower rate because they pay their billa give them an automatic 1.50% reduction in their interest rate.  School loans should not ever have more than a 1% interest rate. If you want to  help the middle class this would. The banks should be taken over by the federal goverment and this would stop the corporate crazy spending. When you as a middle class citizen loose your IRA because it was invested in the stock market you can&#039;t even get a tax credit for any part of your loss, it is like that money goes in a black hole and then you find out the black hole is the CEO&#039;s fancy office. Well, I&#039;ve said my peace, I don&#039;t  expect it to fall on anyone&#039;s ears who can help us ordinary people, but at least I got it off my chest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we need is to go to the FAIR TAX system. that way everybody pays thrieto pay our taxes fair share no matter if you make $100 per week or $1oo,000 if you buy something you pay tax but the money you earn or get for retirement in yours to spend as you see fit, not the goverment. Do away with the IRS entirely.  go to the hospital care like Canada hasand most Europian countries. That way every one has healthcare and does not have to choose wheather to buy their needed perscriptions or eat this month. At the end of the year if we had fair tax we would not have to worry how we are going to pay the additional taxes with the Fair Tax they would be paid.  Not let credit card companies charge more than 6% interest that is on any type of credit card.  People who pay their mortages if interest rate is higher than 6.99% reduce it to that, and people who have a lower rate because they pay their billa give them an automatic 1.50% reduction in their interest rate.  School loans should not ever have more than a 1% interest rate. If you want to  help the middle class this would. The banks should be taken over by the federal goverment and this would stop the corporate crazy spending. When you as a middle class citizen loose your IRA because it was invested in the stock market you can&#8217;t even get a tax credit for any part of your loss, it is like that money goes in a black hole and then you find out the black hole is the CEO&#8217;s fancy office. Well, I&#8217;ve said my peace, I don&#8217;t  expect it to fall on anyone&#8217;s ears who can help us ordinary people, but at least I got it off my chest.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey relax, first time commenters are always put into moderation to cut down on spam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey relax, first time commenters are always put into moderation to cut down on spam.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Vande Velde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Vande Velde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment is awaiting MODERATION?????????? More like censorshipation.  NOTHING NEEDED TO BE MODERATED.  No fowl language.  No anti patriotic call to government assembly.  Where are coming from.????????????????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment is awaiting MODERATION?????????? More like censorshipation.  NOTHING NEEDED TO BE MODERATED.  No fowl language.  No anti patriotic call to government assembly.  Where are coming from.????????????????</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Vande Velde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Vande Velde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on Obama follow up on the promise of taking the government heel off the working class.  We are in big time debt any way.  Increase these tax brackets to 10% of taxable income --------- to 80,000 dollars.  The first 80,000 dollars to be very clear would NOT be taxed at ALL.  THEN THE 10% bracket would be effective for taxable income over 80,000 dollars.  YOU WANT A SHOT OF ADRENALINE FOR THE ECONOMY ------------ THIS ACTION WILL DO IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on Obama follow up on the promise of taking the government heel off the working class.  We are in big time debt any way.  Increase these tax brackets to 10% of taxable income &#8212;&#8212;&#8212; to 80,000 dollars.  The first 80,000 dollars to be very clear would NOT be taxed at ALL.  THEN THE 10% bracket would be effective for taxable income over 80,000 dollars.  YOU WANT A SHOT OF ADRENALINE FOR THE ECONOMY &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; THIS ACTION WILL DO IT.</p>
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		<title>By: dogfogy</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogfogy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>catsuny, please do tell us all exactly how you do feel. I am not getting your point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>catsuny, please do tell us all exactly how you do feel. I am not getting your point?</p>
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		<title>By: catsuny</title>
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		<dc:creator>catsuny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Finland I also think that our take home pay is the actual amount and taxes based on that since we already paid taxes on the check we receive wkly/bi wkly.A lot of things are based on gross amounts which is bull iw  ould love like everyone to take home the gross.
 My take home pay is minus 150..per wk. as others .THE whole tax system isnt fair we  are taxed no matter what it all has to be revamped
the gov spends our money and lives off it .THESE people and there families could never live like the middle class or less unfortunate.
 I want more of my check back i dont want srs. to pay school taxes or anybody who doesnt have children,then they should pay only 1%
property county state taxes are way out of control. I dont have town water ,sewer,i provide both for my home but my property taxes have gone up 4 x in 2 yrs,school taxes 3 x 2yrs. my mortgage i struggle to make because of these taxes. iam disabled and let me tell you i barely grocery shop iam told i make to much money for food stamps because of that gross unfair i dont hav ethat money.I see so many in line with these stamps ,they have expensive clothes then you go out in the parking lot and they have expensive cars i dont get it i once was told youve been working for 28 yrs you made way to much,,,is it all a koke if you live here legally what is going on to the real americans...i am getting hungry and we only drive when we have to i mean have to go heat is a joke to cant have that neither i only have .25 i n my tank its nov.wow both of us i n our late 50s we jave been working since age 13 ..no joke our parents had us out and helping and teaching us savings ..if i take my 401 out iam TAXED AGAIN HMMMM MY MONEY NOT THE GOV. BUT THEY WANT SOME MORE OF MY MONEY THEN WHEN ITS TIME FOR ME TO HAVE IT THEY WILL TAX ME AGIN WHEN I T IS USED FOR INCOME ARE WE STUPID OR JUST LAZY AND JUST LET THEM  KEEP TAKING ,THERE HAS TO BE A CHANGE IF NOT THIS COUNTRY WILL BE IN WAR WITH EACH OTHER</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Finland I also think that our take home pay is the actual amount and taxes based on that since we already paid taxes on the check we receive wkly/bi wkly.A lot of things are based on gross amounts which is bull iw  ould love like everyone to take home the gross.<br />
 My take home pay is minus 150..per wk. as others .THE whole tax system isnt fair we  are taxed no matter what it all has to be revamped<br />
the gov spends our money and lives off it .THESE people and there families could never live like the middle class or less unfortunate.<br />
 I want more of my check back i dont want srs. to pay school taxes or anybody who doesnt have children,then they should pay only 1%<br />
property county state taxes are way out of control. I dont have town water ,sewer,i provide both for my home but my property taxes have gone up 4 x in 2 yrs,school taxes 3 x 2yrs. my mortgage i struggle to make because of these taxes. iam disabled and let me tell you i barely grocery shop iam told i make to much money for food stamps because of that gross unfair i dont hav ethat money.I see so many in line with these stamps ,they have expensive clothes then you go out in the parking lot and they have expensive cars i dont get it i once was told youve been working for 28 yrs you made way to much,,,is it all a koke if you live here legally what is going on to the real americans&#8230;i am getting hungry and we only drive when we have to i mean have to go heat is a joke to cant have that neither i only have .25 i n my tank its nov.wow both of us i n our late 50s we jave been working since age 13 ..no joke our parents had us out and helping and teaching us savings ..if i take my 401 out iam TAXED AGAIN HMMMM MY MONEY NOT THE GOV. BUT THEY WANT SOME MORE OF MY MONEY THEN WHEN ITS TIME FOR ME TO HAVE IT THEY WILL TAX ME AGIN WHEN I T IS USED FOR INCOME ARE WE STUPID OR JUST LAZY AND JUST LET THEM  KEEP TAKING ,THERE HAS TO BE A CHANGE IF NOT THIS COUNTRY WILL BE IN WAR WITH EACH OTHER</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/the-take-home-pay-brackets.html/comment-page-1#comment-218886</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warren Buffet can claim to play less in taxes as a percentage of his earnings than his secretary does because most of his earnings are derived from capital gains, not income. Capital gains is taxed at a lower rate than wage income, assuming that the person earns a reasonably high wage salary, especially capital gains made on investments over the long term.  From what I know, Warren Buffet tends to invest in companies for the long term. His secretary is probably in one of these 30% brackets for her income, where as he is paying 15-20% in capital gains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren Buffet can claim to play less in taxes as a percentage of his earnings than his secretary does because most of his earnings are derived from capital gains, not income. Capital gains is taxed at a lower rate than wage income, assuming that the person earns a reasonably high wage salary, especially capital gains made on investments over the long term.  From what I know, Warren Buffet tends to invest in companies for the long term. His secretary is probably in one of these 30% brackets for her income, where as he is paying 15-20% in capital gains.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 23:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I just saw this article
&lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/26/business/yourmoney/26every.html?ei=5090&amp;en=0cf877b05b918674&amp;ex=1322197200&amp;adxnnl=1&amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;emc=rss&amp;adxnnlx=1164776869-FsFz4FsYlSBF7F1jBVNz2A&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;
and I thought of this posting.

Explain to me how Warren Buffet is paying &quot; far, far less as a fraction of his income than the secretaries or the clerks or anyone else in his office&quot; without, as the article claims, doing any tax planning.   Surely his annual income exceeds that $336K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I just saw this article<br />
<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/26/business/yourmoney/26every.html?ei=5090&amp;en=0cf877b05b918674&amp;ex=1322197200&amp;adxnnl=1&amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;emc=rss&amp;adxnnlx=1164776869-FsFz4FsYlSBF7F1jBVNz2A" rel="nofollow">link</a><br />
and I thought of this posting.</p>
<p>Explain to me how Warren Buffet is paying &#8221; far, far less as a fraction of his income than the secretaries or the clerks or anyone else in his office&#8221; without, as the article claims, doing any tax planning.   Surely his annual income exceeds that $336K.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dePriest, if you look at other countries, e.g. Germany, Sweden, Finland, or Norway you can see that we are much less taxed than they are.  The only difference is that for them health care is almost free, schooling is excellent for all children and they take care of their elderly.  I believe that Finland is currently ranked as the best place to live in the world.  If they tax heavily but put it back into their citizens I have no problem if the US wants to follow their lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dePriest, if you look at other countries, e.g. Germany, Sweden, Finland, or Norway you can see that we are much less taxed than they are.  The only difference is that for them health care is almost free, schooling is excellent for all children and they take care of their elderly.  I believe that Finland is currently ranked as the best place to live in the world.  If they tax heavily but put it back into their citizens I have no problem if the US wants to follow their lead.</p>
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		<title>By: dePriest</title>
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		<dc:creator>dePriest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 13:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was in college, we had a speaker who had been in one of Hitler&#039;s camps who said we were the &quot;most over-taxed, under-represented&quot; people in the world.  This is the &quot;over-taxed&quot; part in black and white; the proof of our underrepresentation is seen in the news daily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was in college, we had a speaker who had been in one of Hitler&#8217;s camps who said we were the &#8220;most over-taxed, under-represented&#8221; people in the world.  This is the &#8220;over-taxed&#8221; part in black and white; the proof of our underrepresentation is seen in the news daily.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 09:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Foobarista - Excellent point, I won&#039;t make the changes only for the sake of complexity (once you introduce one deduction, you open up the whole pandora&#039;s box) but it&#039;s a good point.

Paul - While Social Security is a benefit we may receive in retirement :), I&#039;m only considering the &quot;forced&quot; effects on take home pay, a category I believe we could both agree fits SS just nicely. But yes, it&#039;s not the same animal as income tax (though you could argue we receive the benefits of income tax immediately), it&#039;s in the same category for this article&#039;s sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Foobarista &#8211; Excellent point, I won&#8217;t make the changes only for the sake of complexity (once you introduce one deduction, you open up the whole pandora&#8217;s box) but it&#8217;s a good point.</p>
<p>Paul &#8211; While Social Security is a benefit we may receive in retirement <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> , I&#8217;m only considering the &#8220;forced&#8221; effects on take home pay, a category I believe we could both agree fits SS just nicely. But yes, it&#8217;s not the same animal as income tax (though you could argue we receive the benefits of income tax immediately), it&#8217;s in the same category for this article&#8217;s sake.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 05:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The drop in the marginal rate that you point out for income subject to FICA is reflected many years later when you collect Social Security.  Only income up to the Social Security Wage Base is included in the formula for Social Security.   So your brackets above $92,400 don&#039;t get any more credit than the first $92,400 in 2006 toward their Social Security benefit. These higher brackets don&#039;t pay Social Security Tax, but they also don&#039;t get any benefit from Social Security for their income above $94,200.  We could get into long arguments about whether the amount you put into Social Security is worth it to you (or to society).  I just wanted to point out that unlike income tax that once paid doesn&#039;t affect your future, the Social Security Tax that you pay does. (or at least under current law does.... that&#039;s another long argument.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The drop in the marginal rate that you point out for income subject to FICA is reflected many years later when you collect Social Security.  Only income up to the Social Security Wage Base is included in the formula for Social Security.   So your brackets above $92,400 don&#8217;t get any more credit than the first $92,400 in 2006 toward their Social Security benefit. These higher brackets don&#8217;t pay Social Security Tax, but they also don&#8217;t get any benefit from Social Security for their income above $94,200.  We could get into long arguments about whether the amount you put into Social Security is worth it to you (or to society).  I just wanted to point out that unlike income tax that once paid doesn&#8217;t affect your future, the Social Security Tax that you pay does. (or at least under current law does&#8230;. that&#8217;s another long argument.)</p>
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		<title>By: Foobarista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foobarista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing you may add is to bump the tables to account for the standard deduction.  This especially helps at the lower end of the table, and shows how SS hits lower-income taxpayers really hard.  The standard deduction (or total itemized deduction) affects the income tax brackets, but not the SS/Medicare take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing you may add is to bump the tables to account for the standard deduction.  This especially helps at the lower end of the table, and shows how SS hits lower-income taxpayers really hard.  The standard deduction (or total itemized deduction) affects the income tax brackets, but not the SS/Medicare take.</p>
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