Comments on: What to Expect in Traffic Court

By: Andrew

Andrew — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:53:57 +0000

This is asinine. The reason you can be tried for a crime even if the victim does not want you prosecuted is because a crime is an offense against society, not against the victim. Just because Strawman puts something up on a web site doesn’t make it true.

By: Zel

Zel — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:59:23 +0000

Actually TheStrawman is correct.
US courts are run under the UCC ( Universal Contract Courts ). That’s why a state can charge someone with a crime, say when a couple fights, even if the complaintant does not want to prosecute. We are considered assets of the state. That’s also why the government considers that it has the authority to relocate you forcibly, vaccinate you forcibly, etc… even if they don’t make such open use of that right often.

We legally exchange freedoms which are ours under common law, for government benefits. We do this when we register the birth of our children, get a SSN card, a driver’s license, etc…

Why don’t you google STRAWMAN and read about it.

By: Jim

Jim — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 04:38:42 +0000

Hahahah, touche!

By: Andrew

Andrew — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:58:41 +0000

Let’s do an experiment. You steal a car, drive it to the police station, and confess. When brought to court, insist the court has no jurisdiction. I’m sure they’ll just let you go.

By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut

Kevin@OutOfYourRut — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:15:00 +0000

The Strawman–”By entering a plea you grant the court jurisdiction over you (which they do not have), and consequently giving the court your permission to prosecute yourself.”

That can’t possibly be right. A court has jurisdiction over you by virtue of a violation ocurring in their district. You’re going to have to cite the legal authority for what you’re claiming.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:00:21 +0000

This is utter tripe. Where did you pull this out of?

By: TheStrawman

TheStrawman — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:23:18 +0000

Informative, yet grossly incomplete. Lets think outside the box and explore yet another venue rarely taken. How about entering no plea? Under no circumstances should you enter a plea. By entering a plea you grant the court jurisdiction over you (which they do not have), and consequently giving the court your permission to prosecute yourself. Courts are corporate entities and they can only contract with other corporate entities. When the judge calls your name, you reply “I do not plead to courts of contract.” Be firm yet calm and speak clearly and loudly, “I do not plead to courts of contract.” You see the court needs to establish jurisdiction over you before they can proceed. They will try to do this by asking your name, asking other questions, and giving you instructions. DO NOT entertain any of these futile attempts or comply to any of their demands, “Step to the front of the room sir”, “Take a seat sir”, “Put your hands out of your pockets” are some common examples. Once you answer their questions or comply to any of their demands you are entering into their jurisdiction. You are a broken record that only can play the same tune “I do not plead to courts of contract”. Another tactic the courts employ to get you to contract with them is by playing the namegame. When the judge calls your name he is actually calling your corporately coloured juristic name, that is your name in all capital letters. Look at your ticket/citation, your name will be in all caps, look at your birth certificate, your drivers license, your Social Security card, your passport, your credit cards. How did this perversion of our name happen? When a person is born the doctor is required by law to send your name to the State, the State in turn will send your parents a Certificate of Live Birth in the mail after they change your name to all caps. This juristic name is a corporate entity created for the sole purpose of making it possible for the courts to contract with you. Do not allow them to create a joinder between you and your juristic name.

By: Ming

Ming — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:45:49 +0000

Yea it sucks. On the same day while i was waiting in court, another cop gathered about 15 people in a room and asked them to pay a higher fine in order to not have points on their records.

By: Jim

Jim — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:37:24 +0000

That’s ridiculous, that cop was just being a jerk to be a jerk.

By: Yana

Yana — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:09:06 +0000

That cop really screwed you, Ming. You should never admit guilt, which reminds me of the key question that policemen ask you when they stop you – “Do you know why I pulled you over?” Your answer must always be “No”, and it is always the truth, because you never know their real motivation, even if you are doing something that is illegal. If you claim to know why you were pulled over, you have already lost the game by admitting some sort of guilt. Plus, you may have been speeding and said that is why you were pulled over, but his reason might have been that your tail light was burned out. Then you are really in trouble, because a tail light out is a fix-it ticket, which does you no harm if you get it fixed.

By: Ming

Ming — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:07:49 +0000

I live in Michigan and I got a speeding ticket for 15 over. I went to court and the cop gave me a deal- plead guilty and paid a reduced fine and no points on driving record. I agreed. While standing in line to pay my fine, a man behind told me that the cop had tricked me. He said in Michigan, there are TWO records: driving record and insurance record. He said the cop meant no points on driving record but the incident will still go on my insurance record resulting in higher premiums. He said that’s the reason he was there to fight it. I thought this guy was crazy. But 2 months later, sure enough, my insurance went up. So the lesson here is that when bargaining with the cop, make sure you specify NO POINTS on BOTH driving and insurance record meaning that insurance will not go up. Have the cop write it down on the ticket and tell the judge AGAIN the plead bargain when you plead. Keep all the paperwork in a file so you can go back and fight it if your insurance does go up.

By: DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad

DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:36:23 +0000

Best strategy is not to end up in traffic court in the first place. That said, you may want to ask the prosecuter to drop the charges in exchange for a charitable contribution– no conviction, no points, no insurance increase, and about $100 to a worthy cause like special needs kids.

By: Kevin at OutOfYourRut

Kevin at OutOfYourRut — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:54:21 +0000

Andrew–Same thing in my area. Problem is, the most chronic offenders seem to be indifferent to any stepped up activity by the police.

By: michele

michele — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:21:05 +0000

I have to disagree with Thomas’ comments about officers writing tickets, in the past two years our local area has suffered the loss of three officers shot by persons who were pulled over for “routine” traffic stops. One was shot in the head execution style while he walked back to his cruiser by a medical student who panicked because he was going to lose his license due to too many points. We had an officer hit with a car by someone who did not slow down or move over and clipped him as he walked from the stopped car to the cruiser.

I cant remember if I stated in my earlier comment. It seems like a lot of folks think that speed limits are only set by the communities specifically to set speed traps. Im not saying there are not communities that take advantage of their situation, Linndale, Ohio comes to mind. But the truth is, that in Ohio as it probably is in other states, that the state of Ohio issues guidelines based on federal guidelines that communities must abide by. So basically, the state sets the speed limits in our community, not us, we just enforce them.

There is a reason why residential areas are set at 25mph. There is a reason why there are school zones, business districts, etc. Kids running into the street, traffic pulling in and out of businesses,are all long studied and implemented, and they do frequent traffic studies as areas become more congested.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:23:28 +0000

I don’t know how it is where you live, but here in Northern California I see so much terrible driving that more “policing ourselves” sounds like a good idea to me.