When Debt Collectors Violate the FDCPA

Email  Print Print  

DebtAs we learned in this classic abusive debt collection story, and Craig’s awesome response, debt collectors are often unfamiliar with the law. Not only are they unfamiliar with it, they routine violate it… which means you get to collect from them.

Want an example? Let’s say you call a collector to check on the status of your dispute. They decide to solicit payment from you… that collector has just violated the FDCPA and they now owe you at least $1,000.

Oh… it gets better.

They Keep Calling After Dispute Letter

Let’s bring this all together. You receive a call from a debt collector and you send them a debt dispute letter. If they continue to call, the debt collector has just the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA) and they owe you not less than $1,000 per person that called.

An Invalid Validation

Ok, say you send off a dispute letter, and they respond with a generic “Yeah, we checked and you owe the money” response as their validation of the debt. The collector has just violated the FDCPA and they owe you at least $1,000.

1-2 Punch: Reporting an Invalid Debt

Ok, this is now the 1-2 punch as it is called. Say a collector receives your dispute letter, reports to your credit, then you dispute the credit reporting and they verify with the credit bureaus before sending you validation. The collector just violated the FDCPA and the FCRA (Fair Credit Reporting Act), and they owe you at least $2,000.

Why? Well, verifying an account is considered collection activity, which cannot take place before they provide validation.

Now, say a collector just reports your account to the credit bureaus and doesn’t call or write, but the reporting is inaccurate, you dispute it, and they verify. The collector now owes you at least $2,000 in statutory damages for violating the FCRA by reporting inaccurate information and the FDCPA for taking action they legally can’t do.

Calculating Damages Under FDCPA

The FDCPA allows for $1,000 per action of statutory damages which has been deemed to be per defendant. If you have multiple defendants calling you dispute and before any validation is received, each person owes you $1,000.

The company that employs them is liable under “respondeat superior,” which is latin for “let the master answer.” It’s a legal doctrine that states the employer is responsible for the actions of its employees within the course of their employment. You can just tally up the violations and lay it at the debt collectors door.

According to debt collectors, it costs about $3,500 to settle a lawsuit. $1,000 for the consumer and $2500 for the lawyer. This is on top of forgiving the debt and all negative credit reporting. In the past it was possible for many companies and collectors to hold your credit hostage if you didn’t pay, but you don’t have to be afraid any longer.

If some company reports you to a collector for a disputed debt or they are trying to extract some unfair or unearned fee, let them. Dispute, and as the collector violates the FDCPA, beat them into submission in court.

How About Mega Damages?

Here’s the fun part: Let’s say a collector finds out that you’re applying for a car loan or home mortgage (just so you know, some of the credit bureaus have notification products that inform collectors if you apply for a car or house). The collector slaps puts a collection on your report in the hopes that the mortgage company will require you to pay it before closing.

If that collector reports anything inaccurate or violates the FDCPA in their attempt to collect and it costs you a house… they owe you a new house. That is how you see some of the mega damages (6, 7, and 8 figure awards) for FDCPA and FCRA cases.

Next, we’ll talk about collecting from the collectors and how to make them pay you when they’ve violated federal law.

(Photo: jaytamboli)

{ 15 comments, please add your thoughts now! }

Related Posts

RSS Subscribe Like this article? Get all the latest articles sent to your email for free every day. Enter your email address and click "Subscribe." Your email will only be used for this daily subscription and you can unsubscribe anytime.

15 Responses to “When Debt Collectors Violate the FDCPA”

  1. Scott says:

    Vive la revolution!

  2. Amber says:

    I think it would be very beneficial for many readers if you did a segment on the different types of collectors…There are certain debts that have variations…for example student loans. That in itself is a topic worth discussing.

  3. @Amber – I’ll second that request…I did a post on my personal blog (WealthUncomplicated) about it a few months ago because there is a distinct difference between collectors.

    When I worked at Citibank as a collector some time ago, we were required to know the FDCPA inside and out. Even within these bounds, there was a wide range of collection techniques.

    As to this post, I would like to know exactly how these violations are proven. Any collector (even the most vicious) will hang up if you inform them that they are being recorded. Short of a recording (which to my knowledge is inadmissible in court unless the recording is done with the other party’s knowledge), only written records would be available or messages left on a voicemail (this would be a rare instance even for the lowest of low collectors).

    If you could clarify exactly how these violations are proven I’d love to read more!

    By the way, most 3rd party collectors will simply re-sell the debt to another agency rather than attempt to validate the debt after a dispute. The collections world is highly profitable in part because they can buy debt so inexpensively and if they are going to have a tough time collecting, they simply re-sell it.

    Cool post though…love it when greasy collectors get lit up.

    • Jess says:

      Wrong where I live only one party has to give permission to have a phone call recorded and if only 2 are on the phone guess what, 1 has already given permission and it is admissable in court.

  4. codename47 says:

    You shouldn’t inform them you are recording the call, ever. Most states do NOT require consent/notification of a recording as long as one party (ie you) knows that the recording is being made.

    If they give you the “calls may be recorded” disclaimer, that is the green light to record in states which require 2 party notification. Most states don’t require this at all, though.

    Federal court allows recordings done without the other party’s knowledge. Federal laws support 1 party recording laws as well.

    The other way are to send all letters via certified mail so you can prove when they got it.

    Reselling the debt is a common violation, but that just allows you to collect from two collectors if they each violate.

    • Damon Day says:

      Here is a Wiki link listing the 12 states that require 2 party recording notification. All other states allow recording if at least one person in the conversation has knowledge of the recording. Federal law prohibits third party recording of a telephone conversation in which neither of the two parties on the telephone call have knowledge of the recording.

    • daemondust says:

      I’ve always loved the wording “This call may be recorded….” They mean “We might record this call”, but they also mean “We have no problem with you recording this call, go ahead.”

      Just one of those phrases that nobody thinks about the literal meaning.

  5. @Damon Day – thanks for the link and the great info! This is definitely something that could be invaluable to those dealing with collections idiots.

    • Damon Day says:

      Sure, knowing your rights is the quickest way to make a debt collector that crosses the line, curl up and go away. They will go look for easier pickings somewhere else when they learn that they can’t pull the typical stuff on you. Plus knowing what they can and cannot do will really help consumers sleep at night if they find themselves in an unfortunate situation of being behind on their bills.

  6. Kyle says:

    @Amber Hold out a little while I think there may be something in the pipeline clarifying the differences between 1st and 3rd party collectors.

    The most common violation of FDCPA is a collector contacting you at your place of employment after being informed you cannot receive personal calls. Typically shops will pay close attention to disputes and Cease and Desist’s for the very reasons pointed out in this post.

    Keep in mind it is going to cost a shop a lot more the $1k to take legal action to force you to pay your debt, i.e. garnishments etc. So to some shady types it could be worth the violation if it gets them closer to collecting.

  7. JCH says:

    Good stuff…

    It looks like we’re about to have a fight over what is considered a proper verification. There are several collectors in the 11th Circuit that think all they have to is send the generic “yeah, you owe it.”

  8. Fiance Fed Up says:

    So Wrong….
    My significant other made arrangments to pay monthly on an account that a law firm is collecting on. He was making his payments faithfully. He received a letter stating that they did not have an agreement on file and if he did not contact the office, then there would be further legal action. I had him call, he explained the situation. He was told that the agreement made over the phone with their representative was not acceptable, but they were accepting his payments. After a couple of months (he still making payments) he was garnished. I sent a letter to the Better Business Bureau and a couple of days ago,he was informed by the law firm that is handling the collections, that the garnishment is being retracted. Is their actions considered a violation of FDCPA?

  9. stef4133 says:

    I have just gotten a letter from a collection agency stating that they are going to transfer someone else’s consumers energy account balance of $1,973 to my account. I have never lived at that residence and the account was not even in my name as well. They stated when I called Consumers energy that they need me to provide proof that I did not live at that residence in 2009 in order for it to be disputed and possibly taken off my account etc. This cannot be legal, why would I owe someone else’s debt. I am concerned that I will have my power turned off, possible credit damage etc.. Really want to do something to stop this and saw that this may fall under the FDCPA laws and have sent a letter to see if I have a suit. I just want them to be stopped even if someone has their power off for 1 day that is absolutely unacceptable, no one should owe a debt or face any sort of penalty from this. I am glad I found your article and would really love to hear back from anyone if they can help me figure out what to do. I live in Michigan and from what I can tell they’ve been doing this for a while and nothings changed. Thank you.

  10. Mike says:

    I have been dealing with a debt collection agency for quite some time.

    This is a valid debt for an unpaid credit card bill – I lost employment and had to let this particular debt slide. It’s a low dollar amount. I am able to pay the debt but I feel this collection agency has been hounding me.

    I sent a Pay For Delete letter by certified mail over a month ago, they received my letter (I was able to verify this by calling to inquire about the status of my account, at which time I was asked for payment). I was also told that I was unable to offer a settlement, the way it works, according to the representative I spoke with, is that THEY offer a settlement and I accept.

    They constantly attempt to contact me by cell phone, even though I have very clearly told them on multiple occasions that it is a mobile phone and I am paying for the talk time. They’ve started calling my girlfriend (I’m not sure how they got her contact information) to try and get information from her now.

    After reading a little bit more into the way they’ve been very forcefully and rudely attempting to collect this debt, I believe they have made multiple violations to the FDCPA. Do you have any advice on how to proceed or any suggestions as to what I should be researching? I am getting to the point where I want to bite back, if I am able to do so.



Please Leave a Reply
Bargaineering Comment Policy

Previous Article: «
Next Article: »
Advertising Disclosure: Bargaineering may be compensated in exchange for featured placement of certain sponsored products and services, or your clicking on links posted on this website.
About | Contact Me | Privacy Policy/Your California Privacy Rights | Terms of Use | Press
Copyright © 2016 by All rights reserved.