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		<title>By: Vladimir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vladimir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 05:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say psychology isn&#039;t a waste of time. Being a psychology student myself it helps me get into the minds of people such as yourself and analyze things a greater level. Of course only some courses are useful. As any degree in school %70 of the lessons taught are drivel. My last point is that getting a psychology degree looks remotely professional and is very easy to get, therefore helping you skip the useless experience of college and get a real job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say psychology isn&#8217;t a waste of time. Being a psychology student myself it helps me get into the minds of people such as yourself and analyze things a greater level. Of course only some courses are useful. As any degree in school %70 of the lessons taught are drivel. My last point is that getting a psychology degree looks remotely professional and is very easy to get, therefore helping you skip the useless experience of college and get a real job.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 00:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that the only ones defending the high cost of obtaining a college degree are those with a vested interest in the college racket like professors and administrators, or those with an ego to protect like college graduates who are simply trying to reassure themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that the only ones defending the high cost of obtaining a college degree are those with a vested interest in the college racket like professors and administrators, or those with an ego to protect like college graduates who are simply trying to reassure themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 16:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>music and dance are not a waste of time.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>music and dance are not a waste of time.!</p>
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		<title>By: Deebee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deebee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 22:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Bryan. If you&#039;re going to finish college, make sure the degree is worthwhile, or just don&#039;t go at all. Psych, Sociology, Liberal Arts, Dance, Music, etc...are all a waste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Bryan. If you&#8217;re going to finish college, make sure the degree is worthwhile, or just don&#8217;t go at all. Psych, Sociology, Liberal Arts, Dance, Music, etc&#8230;are all a waste.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonha @ Happiness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonha @ Happiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 23:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a good encouragement for people without degrees to thrive and succeed in life but this shouldn&#039;t be a discouragement for those who are in college or taking their masters degree. I have finished a couple of years in college majoring in computer programming but worked in an environment not fully relevant to what I graduated from. I&#039;ve learned that the path to success doesn&#039;t always have to be straight. It just need to be somewhere you know you&#039;re happy and making other people on your way happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good encouragement for people without degrees to thrive and succeed in life but this shouldn&#8217;t be a discouragement for those who are in college or taking their masters degree. I have finished a couple of years in college majoring in computer programming but worked in an environment not fully relevant to what I graduated from. I&#8217;ve learned that the path to success doesn&#8217;t always have to be straight. It just need to be somewhere you know you&#8217;re happy and making other people on your way happy.</p>
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		<title>By: aj</title>
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		<dc:creator>aj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my mom has often forced me to finish college but never did... i find no reason to do so as i started working young which paid off and started within the media arena to which building a network seemed not to be a problem to me and never have had a job to where i don&#039;t have a desk... i may say that with focus, sheer guts, confidence and common sense you can be financially equipt if you wanted to... currently, i make 5x the salary in 15 days than the corporate few acquaintances that i know would make in 6 months time.... i should say though that i used to envy these people who go to work in their corporate attire until i realized that a friend of mine who&#039;s an operations manager of a big food chain in our area makes half than what i make in a month&#039;s time...

the advantage of having a degree though is that it can secure you a job anytime... but to each his own... if you&#039;re not a self-motivated person...ya better need to go to college...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my mom has often forced me to finish college but never did&#8230; i find no reason to do so as i started working young which paid off and started within the media arena to which building a network seemed not to be a problem to me and never have had a job to where i don&#8217;t have a desk&#8230; i may say that with focus, sheer guts, confidence and common sense you can be financially equipt if you wanted to&#8230; currently, i make 5x the salary in 15 days than the corporate few acquaintances that i know would make in 6 months time&#8230;. i should say though that i used to envy these people who go to work in their corporate attire until i realized that a friend of mine who&#8217;s an operations manager of a big food chain in our area makes half than what i make in a month&#8217;s time&#8230;</p>
<p>the advantage of having a degree though is that it can secure you a job anytime&#8230; but to each his own&#8230; if you&#8217;re not a self-motivated person&#8230;ya better need to go to college&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Keilon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keilon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great discussion I have been out of high school for about two years now and have been procrastinating going to school in good reason I am very motivated, have a very vibrant entrepreneurial spirit and all my hero&#039;s Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, etc. either have not finish college or never went. If I wanted to be a doctor or a Lawyer then college would for sure be on my things to do list but I&#039;ve yet to see an entrepreneurial degree. both of my parents told me to go so I recently enrolled in a technical college. To chose my degree of study I literally did enee meenee minee mo and landed on business admin. while taking an algebra class Im finding it harder everyday to wake up and go to class because the motivation is not there I believe that college does not determine success, you do and I would feel better if i was going to a college because i wanted to go. Sometimes I feel like a loser and look at all my other friends who are attending college doing degree&#039;s that they don&#039;t care about but are still going to class. I just dont want to give my parents the luxury a couple years down the line to say &quot;I Told you so&quot; But I also believe in following my heart and its hard to denied what I feel. The bright side to all of this is that I currently have no college debt. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great discussion I have been out of high school for about two years now and have been procrastinating going to school in good reason I am very motivated, have a very vibrant entrepreneurial spirit and all my hero&#8217;s Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, etc. either have not finish college or never went. If I wanted to be a doctor or a Lawyer then college would for sure be on my things to do list but I&#8217;ve yet to see an entrepreneurial degree. both of my parents told me to go so I recently enrolled in a technical college. To chose my degree of study I literally did enee meenee minee mo and landed on business admin. while taking an algebra class Im finding it harder everyday to wake up and go to class because the motivation is not there I believe that college does not determine success, you do and I would feel better if i was going to a college because i wanted to go. Sometimes I feel like a loser and look at all my other friends who are attending college doing degree&#8217;s that they don&#8217;t care about but are still going to class. I just dont want to give my parents the luxury a couple years down the line to say &#8220;I Told you so&#8221; But I also believe in following my heart and its hard to denied what I feel. The bright side to all of this is that I currently have no college debt. <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree, I tried college out but pretty quickly found that it wasnt for me, I wen&#039;t to a decently well known Private University and couldn&#039;t see the purpose of spending $25k a year and being in such huge debt for the possibility of a $60-$100K job. now 4 months later as you said earlier, networking was key, a friend of mine I went to several LAN&#039;s to offered me a job at a local hospital in IT and was offered what i was going to college for a job in IT. but back to what you were saying I can definitely see where the networking part comes into play at college. However as others have also said success shouldn&#039;t also be labeled as how much money ya got. it doesn&#039;t take an MBA or Accounting degree to be able to walk your kids to the bus stop in the morning or have a happy family I think that to me is the success i&#039;m looking for. And for those that did graduate college I admire you for making it through it certainly wasn&#039;t something I could make it through or take going through!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree, I tried college out but pretty quickly found that it wasnt for me, I wen&#8217;t to a decently well known Private University and couldn&#8217;t see the purpose of spending $25k a year and being in such huge debt for the possibility of a $60-$100K job. now 4 months later as you said earlier, networking was key, a friend of mine I went to several LAN&#8217;s to offered me a job at a local hospital in IT and was offered what i was going to college for a job in IT. but back to what you were saying I can definitely see where the networking part comes into play at college. However as others have also said success shouldn&#8217;t also be labeled as how much money ya got. it doesn&#8217;t take an MBA or Accounting degree to be able to walk your kids to the bus stop in the morning or have a happy family I think that to me is the success i&#8217;m looking for. And for those that did graduate college I admire you for making it through it certainly wasn&#8217;t something I could make it through or take going through!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 16:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is success defined only by the money that you will make in your employment? I certainly agree that many intelligent individuals never attend college. Typically, the motivated do well professionally; however, there is something to be gained through higher education. College provides the intangible benefit of knowledge depth. Being educated is sometimes its own reward, and I would encourage anyone who has the ability to go for it. 
As someone who has attained a bachelor&#039;s and master&#039;s degree, it has added value to my life. A company that I worked for recently downsized, and my degree(s) allowed me to find employment quickly. Some very skilled coworkers without qualifications found it hard to rebound. In professional and social environments, education garners respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is success defined only by the money that you will make in your employment? I certainly agree that many intelligent individuals never attend college. Typically, the motivated do well professionally; however, there is something to be gained through higher education. College provides the intangible benefit of knowledge depth. Being educated is sometimes its own reward, and I would encourage anyone who has the ability to go for it.<br />
As someone who has attained a bachelor&#8217;s and master&#8217;s degree, it has added value to my life. A company that I worked for recently downsized, and my degree(s) allowed me to find employment quickly. Some very skilled coworkers without qualifications found it hard to rebound. In professional and social environments, education garners respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because you &quot;can&quot; succeed..... doesn&#039;t mean you WILL.

Given the choice, I&#039;d take the education.
I only have a 2 year degree, and when I was downsized at age 43, it was virtually worthless.  I was no better off than someone with a high school education.  All the jobs were for 4 year degrees, I couldn&#039;t even apply for them.

The good ole boy network had its jubilee.  They got me out, and they kept me out, while they hired their own buddies.

I don&#039;t recommend it to anybody, especially to a female, we don&#039;t have the network that the men seem to have.  Get an education, if you can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because you &#8220;can&#8221; succeed&#8230;.. doesn&#8217;t mean you WILL.</p>
<p>Given the choice, I&#8217;d take the education.<br />
I only have a 2 year degree, and when I was downsized at age 43, it was virtually worthless.  I was no better off than someone with a high school education.  All the jobs were for 4 year degrees, I couldn&#8217;t even apply for them.</p>
<p>The good ole boy network had its jubilee.  They got me out, and they kept me out, while they hired their own buddies.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t recommend it to anybody, especially to a female, we don&#8217;t have the network that the men seem to have.  Get an education, if you can.</p>
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		<title>By: cbeesco</title>
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		<dc:creator>cbeesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>College is not necessary the way it is set up now. It&#039;s a part of the political machine in the world.
I&#039;ve been to 4 universities and I see the same thing over and over. Yes if you are networking that should be your main reason for college along with all the parties. I know people in nearly every walk of life and very few ever use 10% of their college degree. In fact most use none of it. Everything they need to learn can be done by adding grade 13 to high school.
That includes doctors and lawyers and other professionals. They should start their doctorate in the 10th grade instead of taking all those ridiculous courses like history and geography and so on. College is just business like everything else in a capitalist society. 
You either have it or not. Common sense is something that should be taught in schools, personal finance and credit, personal health and hygiene, math, reading, get rid of all the crap and train that student for real life, not for something they are never going to use that will put a financial burden on three generations. We should do away with colleges and just use on Line College, it&#039;s cheaper and makes the individual work harder. I have a bachelors and an associate’s degree but I have never held a job that required most of that education. I finally saw the big picture and it&#039;s one of deceit and bull. I&#039;ve met tons of individuals who are making six figure incomes by attending tech schools on and off line.
4 years for a bachelors degree is ludicrous. 
That should be for a doctorate.
I have students in my computer classes that tell me I taught those more in one night then they learned in six weeks from a local college. I hear it all the time. Anyway, the mans right, networking is where it&#039;s at. One more thing, why are employers so out of touch? 
I hire non degree people in my company with experience or the drive to learn for themselves. They are better employees because they work harder to learn and what would you rather have someone who is trying to prove themselves or someone who thinks they know it all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>College is not necessary the way it is set up now. It&#8217;s a part of the political machine in the world.<br />
I&#8217;ve been to 4 universities and I see the same thing over and over. Yes if you are networking that should be your main reason for college along with all the parties. I know people in nearly every walk of life and very few ever use 10% of their college degree. In fact most use none of it. Everything they need to learn can be done by adding grade 13 to high school.<br />
That includes doctors and lawyers and other professionals. They should start their doctorate in the 10th grade instead of taking all those ridiculous courses like history and geography and so on. College is just business like everything else in a capitalist society.<br />
You either have it or not. Common sense is something that should be taught in schools, personal finance and credit, personal health and hygiene, math, reading, get rid of all the crap and train that student for real life, not for something they are never going to use that will put a financial burden on three generations. We should do away with colleges and just use on Line College, it&#8217;s cheaper and makes the individual work harder. I have a bachelors and an associate’s degree but I have never held a job that required most of that education. I finally saw the big picture and it&#8217;s one of deceit and bull. I&#8217;ve met tons of individuals who are making six figure incomes by attending tech schools on and off line.<br />
4 years for a bachelors degree is ludicrous.<br />
That should be for a doctorate.<br />
I have students in my computer classes that tell me I taught those more in one night then they learned in six weeks from a local college. I hear it all the time. Anyway, the mans right, networking is where it&#8217;s at. One more thing, why are employers so out of touch?<br />
I hire non degree people in my company with experience or the drive to learn for themselves. They are better employees because they work harder to learn and what would you rather have someone who is trying to prove themselves or someone who thinks they know it all?</p>
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		<title>By: saintiaint</title>
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		<dc:creator>saintiaint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey. i know this girl who makes 130.000$ a year, only went to college for half a semester... Now it proves your point. you gotta be liked.. I seen the biggest losers on the planet succeed with no college. through pure dumb luck..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey. i know this girl who makes 130.000$ a year, only went to college for half a semester&#8230; Now it proves your point. you gotta be liked.. I seen the biggest losers on the planet succeed with no college. through pure dumb luck..</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was just wondering if you needed college for electrical. i live in canada, and my cousins boyfriend said you dont need college for electrical, and that you can just apply at any electric company. and IF they hire you, they give you the same training as they would at school. could you get a certificate from apprenticeship?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was just wondering if you needed college for electrical. i live in canada, and my cousins boyfriend said you dont need college for electrical, and that you can just apply at any electric company. and IF they hire you, they give you the same training as they would at school. could you get a certificate from apprenticeship?????</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Redfern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Redfern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont think you need a college education to succeed in life because i know a lot of people that do just fine without it!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont think you need a college education to succeed in life because i know a lot of people that do just fine without it!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>College does not guarantee a job. Yes it makes you marketable, but nothing is guaranteed. In fact 75% of the jobs in the United States DO NOT require a college degree. College does not prepare for you for the real world, employers look for experience and not a college degree. Save your money, work, and build your resume through experience it will help in the long run. College guarantees nothing but a lot of debt.</description>
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