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		<title>By: Dave (ChiefExecutiveRockStar)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave (ChiefExecutiveRockStar)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dominique Bouhours quote - Money is a good servant, but a poor master.  Most won&#039;t make that shift, and won&#039;t see the rewards (but anyone who wants to can).

You asked for reader&#039;s &quot;take.&quot;  I can&#039;t write on what it&#039;s like to be 67 years old and female, because I haven&#039;t been either.  I find most of us write about being rich, what it would be like, what it should be like, how they would act and how others would act/should act.  The fact is, without the experience, we&#039;re only speculating without authority for fact.  (that&#039;s my take).

I&#039;ve been broke, I&#039;ve been rich, I&#039;ve been broke again (rich is better).  I just started a blog noting my experiences in the journey and along my current path back to economic independence, then financial freedom.  It&#039;s been a great journey.  A rough one.  One most wouldn&#039;t be willing to trade me for.  Still, more won&#039;t want to take the time to learn the principles that govern prosperity.  But I wouldn&#039;t trade the experience for a million dollars (oh, I guess I did).  

--Dave Charbonneau</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dominique Bouhours quote &#8211; Money is a good servant, but a poor master.  Most won&#8217;t make that shift, and won&#8217;t see the rewards (but anyone who wants to can).</p>
<p>You asked for reader&#8217;s &#8220;take.&#8221;  I can&#8217;t write on what it&#8217;s like to be 67 years old and female, because I haven&#8217;t been either.  I find most of us write about being rich, what it would be like, what it should be like, how they would act and how others would act/should act.  The fact is, without the experience, we&#8217;re only speculating without authority for fact.  (that&#8217;s my take).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been broke, I&#8217;ve been rich, I&#8217;ve been broke again (rich is better).  I just started a blog noting my experiences in the journey and along my current path back to economic independence, then financial freedom.  It&#8217;s been a great journey.  A rough one.  One most wouldn&#8217;t be willing to trade me for.  Still, more won&#8217;t want to take the time to learn the principles that govern prosperity.  But I wouldn&#8217;t trade the experience for a million dollars (oh, I guess I did).  </p>
<p>&#8211;Dave Charbonneau</p>
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		<title>By: Lord</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think most people are up to the freedom of defining what they want to do each day.  They would get bored.  

I love challenging and meaningful work.  Determining what to do each day is just that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think most people are up to the freedom of defining what they want to do each day.  They would get bored.  </p>
<p>I love challenging and meaningful work.  Determining what to do each day is just that.</p>
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		<title>By: AJC @ 7million7years</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJC @ 7million7years</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... unless to DO what you want, you have to FIRST be rich.

For example, let&#039;s say that your passion is to teach others about wealth; you would need:

1. To first be wealthy yourself (unless, you want to be a typical PF author and become rich BECAUSE you teach about wealth ... to me, that&#039;s just plain unethical).

2. To have time to teach, write, promote, research ... this IS a full-time occupation to do properly.

I think your question is: who wants to be retired ... as in No Work and All Play makes Jack a Dull Boy :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; unless to DO what you want, you have to FIRST be rich.</p>
<p>For example, let&#8217;s say that your passion is to teach others about wealth; you would need:</p>
<p>1. To first be wealthy yourself (unless, you want to be a typical PF author and become rich BECAUSE you teach about wealth &#8230; to me, that&#8217;s just plain unethical).</p>
<p>2. To have time to teach, write, promote, research &#8230; this IS a full-time occupation to do properly.</p>
<p>I think your question is: who wants to be retired &#8230; as in No Work and All Play makes Jack a Dull Boy <img src='http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is being rich really the point.  Yes.  But where you want to go financially is really up each individual.  

For me, I&#039;d like to be worth four million dollars by the time I retire. 

Best, 

James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is being rich really the point.  Yes.  But where you want to go financially is really up each individual.  </p>
<p>For me, I&#8217;d like to be worth four million dollars by the time I retire. </p>
<p>Best, </p>
<p>James</p>
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		<title>By: 2million</title>
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		<dc:creator>2million</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,
If you had kids, you might be singing a different tune.  All my friends with (esp young) children don&#039;t seem to have enough hours in the day.  Between raising a family, being involved in your community, keeping a healthy relationship with your partner (I am learning it take alot of time), and all your other commitments they can easy soak up much of your time.  Then throw in those projects you have always wanted to do and forget lack of structure, you can just do things are your own pace.  

I agree - could be a disaster if you don&#039;t really have an objective in mind other than to accumulate and spend your wealth and all the structure in your lives disappears.  However, if you are driven enough to achieve a goal of financial independance (excluding lottery, gambling, etc) then I don&#039;t think this will be a big issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,<br />
If you had kids, you might be singing a different tune.  All my friends with (esp young) children don&#8217;t seem to have enough hours in the day.  Between raising a family, being involved in your community, keeping a healthy relationship with your partner (I am learning it take alot of time), and all your other commitments they can easy soak up much of your time.  Then throw in those projects you have always wanted to do and forget lack of structure, you can just do things are your own pace.  </p>
<p>I agree &#8211; could be a disaster if you don&#8217;t really have an objective in mind other than to accumulate and spend your wealth and all the structure in your lives disappears.  However, if you are driven enough to achieve a goal of financial independance (excluding lottery, gambling, etc) then I don&#8217;t think this will be a big issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, it depends on your definition of wealth. Mine is to have enough to cover my needs and most of my wants -- while allowing me time to do things that I enjoy. I don&#039;t need a ton of &quot;extra&quot; money that sits there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, it depends on your definition of wealth. Mine is to have enough to cover my needs and most of my wants &#8212; while allowing me time to do things that I enjoy. I don&#8217;t need a ton of &#8220;extra&#8221; money that sits there.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Gleason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Gleason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so true. The example of celebrities is spot-on. Celebrities who seem to recognize this, and get involved with charities and other philanthropic activities to occupy their time seem to do a lot better than those who do nothing and ultimately end up arrested / in rehab / making damn fools of themselves in front of the world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so true. The example of celebrities is spot-on. Celebrities who seem to recognize this, and get involved with charities and other philanthropic activities to occupy their time seem to do a lot better than those who do nothing and ultimately end up arrested / in rehab / making damn fools of themselves in front of the world!</p>
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		<title>By: Working Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Working Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, money is not the ultimate goal. Freedom is the ultimate goal. Having to go to a job every day may be comforting, but to me, &quot;comfort&quot; is not a good reason for sticking with something. I don&#039;t think celebrities turn to drugs because they have too much time on their hands--rather, it&#039;s a combination of the pressures of fame, fear of fading success, and putting too much emphasis on shallow goals like getting attention and being &quot;famous for the sake of being famous.&quot;

&quot;It’s nice to do “whatever you want,” until you realize you have no idea what you’re going to do!&quot;

But I have tons of ideas of what I would do! I honestly think I could come up with plenty to fill my life for the next sixty years without having a job. This seems like sort of a poor reason for rejecting the idea of financial independence when a good brainstorming session would probably uncover many things you&#039;d like to do. 

Financial independence is undoubtedly difficult, and not the right goal for everybody, but, with all respect, I don&#039;t think any of the points you&#039;ve made against it are good reasons for rejecting it altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, money is not the ultimate goal. Freedom is the ultimate goal. Having to go to a job every day may be comforting, but to me, &#8220;comfort&#8221; is not a good reason for sticking with something. I don&#8217;t think celebrities turn to drugs because they have too much time on their hands&#8211;rather, it&#8217;s a combination of the pressures of fame, fear of fading success, and putting too much emphasis on shallow goals like getting attention and being &#8220;famous for the sake of being famous.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It’s nice to do “whatever you want,” until you realize you have no idea what you’re going to do!&#8221;</p>
<p>But I have tons of ideas of what I would do! I honestly think I could come up with plenty to fill my life for the next sixty years without having a job. This seems like sort of a poor reason for rejecting the idea of financial independence when a good brainstorming session would probably uncover many things you&#8217;d like to do. </p>
<p>Financial independence is undoubtedly difficult, and not the right goal for everybody, but, with all respect, I don&#8217;t think any of the points you&#8217;ve made against it are good reasons for rejecting it altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually would love to win the lottery and not so I could have &quot;nothing to do&quot; but focus on all of the things I would like to improve if I had the time and money.  I would love to improve myself (I would spend hours in the gym every day if I had the time), work more on my blog, run a fitness blog, restore an old Z, oh man, the list is endless.   I saw a show the other day on people that had won the lottery and self destructed...interestingly a lot of them seemed the type that might self destruct anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually would love to win the lottery and not so I could have &#8220;nothing to do&#8221; but focus on all of the things I would like to improve if I had the time and money.  I would love to improve myself (I would spend hours in the gym every day if I had the time), work more on my blog, run a fitness blog, restore an old Z, oh man, the list is endless.   I saw a show the other day on people that had won the lottery and self destructed&#8230;interestingly a lot of them seemed the type that might self destruct anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Chief Family Officer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chief Family Officer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Money is always (or should be) only a means to an end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money is always (or should be) only a means to an end.</p>
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		<title>By: Eden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not everyone is cut out for working on their own, but I have no problem staying productive and getting work done outside of the traditional 40 hour a week job. I just have too much debt right now to give up my &#039;easy money&#039; day job for good.

For me, the point is not to be &#039;rich&#039; but to have enough money to comfortably live and not be required to work for someone else for certain hours each week. I would consider that &#039;wealthy&#039; and it may mean I am rich too, but I think that is a more relative term and much less important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not everyone is cut out for working on their own, but I have no problem staying productive and getting work done outside of the traditional 40 hour a week job. I just have too much debt right now to give up my &#8216;easy money&#8217; day job for good.</p>
<p>For me, the point is not to be &#8216;rich&#8217; but to have enough money to comfortably live and not be required to work for someone else for certain hours each week. I would consider that &#8216;wealthy&#8217; and it may mean I am rich too, but I think that is a more relative term and much less important.</p>
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		<title>By: saladdin</title>
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		<dc:creator>saladdin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just breezed through the article but I lived in West Virginia when he won. If I remember right, he was in construction (I think) and already &quot;well off&quot; before he won. But his business had begain to slow down and he had laid off some of his workers to get by. As soon as he won, he called them all back to work.

What is missing is that fact that his granddaughter od&#039;ed on drugs, she was very young (16ish). He had flooded her with money, cars and all other excess. She was found wrapped in a tarp, dumped outside behind an old vehicle. Very sad stuff.

saladdin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just breezed through the article but I lived in West Virginia when he won. If I remember right, he was in construction (I think) and already &#8220;well off&#8221; before he won. But his business had begain to slow down and he had laid off some of his workers to get by. As soon as he won, he called them all back to work.</p>
<p>What is missing is that fact that his granddaughter od&#8217;ed on drugs, she was very young (16ish). He had flooded her with money, cars and all other excess. She was found wrapped in a tarp, dumped outside behind an old vehicle. Very sad stuff.</p>
<p>saladdin</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Micah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for responding, Jim. I&#039;d probably take a part-time library job to make sure I got people interaction. But just shelving, which I find more relaxing than the front desk. And I&#039;d spend the rest of my time writing, sewing, and such. That seems like a fairly meaningful life to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for responding, Jim. I&#8217;d probably take a part-time library job to make sure I got people interaction. But just shelving, which I find more relaxing than the front desk. And I&#8217;d spend the rest of my time writing, sewing, and such. That seems like a fairly meaningful life to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Finally Frugal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finally Frugal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Money is not the ultimate goal, it&#039;s just the tool that will allow us to do what we want, when we want to do it.  If I didn&#039;t have to spend 8+ (more like 10+) hours per day working, AND if I had the funds to support myself, I could:  Travel; Volunteer; Read; Take &quot;fun&quot; classes; Visit with my family; Make new friends.  Any any number of other things.

That doesn&#039;t mean I need to be a multi-millionaire.  I don&#039;t need a private jet, I don&#039;t need to eat caviar and drink champagne, and I don&#039;t need a Hummer.  Just enough to provide security, independence, and freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money is not the ultimate goal, it&#8217;s just the tool that will allow us to do what we want, when we want to do it.  If I didn&#8217;t have to spend 8+ (more like 10+) hours per day working, AND if I had the funds to support myself, I could:  Travel; Volunteer; Read; Take &#8220;fun&#8221; classes; Visit with my family; Make new friends.  Any any number of other things.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean I need to be a multi-millionaire.  I don&#8217;t need a private jet, I don&#8217;t need to eat caviar and drink champagne, and I don&#8217;t need a Hummer.  Just enough to provide security, independence, and freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: savvy</title>
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		<dc:creator>savvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well my goal IS to be financially independent.  While I have no desire to be the &#039;idle rich&#039;, I have a number of interests that I can&#039;t fully indulge due to working full-time.  My &#039;perfect life&#039; would be one that entails traveling for weeks at a time, interspersed with volunteer and/or freelance work when at home and having the greatest luxury, which is to me, time.  If I want to spend all day planting a garden or reading or whatever, I can without worrying about chores/tasks going undone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well my goal IS to be financially independent.  While I have no desire to be the &#8216;idle rich&#8217;, I have a number of interests that I can&#8217;t fully indulge due to working full-time.  My &#8216;perfect life&#8217; would be one that entails traveling for weeks at a time, interspersed with volunteer and/or freelance work when at home and having the greatest luxury, which is to me, time.  If I want to spend all day planting a garden or reading or whatever, I can without worrying about chores/tasks going undone.</p>
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