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		<title>By: Cap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 21:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see how for major corporate events it may be a good idea (at least in the sense of your job being on the line) to have a back-up plan, but finding a reputable place in the first is probably more of a sound bet.

I&#039;ve never done it before, but you have to see it from the other people&#039;s perspective in that there really isn&#039;t an easy place to go to to find yourself a reputable venue - after all, how many online reviews of venues are there? Most venue referrals (at least for weddings?) are word-of-mouth references too, so you can see the dilemma some may have when booking a venue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see how for major corporate events it may be a good idea (at least in the sense of your job being on the line) to have a back-up plan, but finding a reputable place in the first is probably more of a sound bet.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never done it before, but you have to see it from the other people&#8217;s perspective in that there really isn&#8217;t an easy place to go to to find yourself a reputable venue &#8211; after all, how many online reviews of venues are there? Most venue referrals (at least for weddings?) are word-of-mouth references too, so you can see the dilemma some may have when booking a venue.</p>
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		<title>By: alanschram</title>
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		<dc:creator>alanschram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 05:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am getting married in August. A couple of months ago we were faced with the prospect of booking the location. I think we even read about &quot;double booking&quot; in a wedding magazine or online somewhere.

I feel relatively confident that we&#039;re going to have our location. Its outside, we know the people that own the place, so we should be okay. Even still, there is a slight bit of hesitation - the &quot;what if&quot;.

I feel like double booking is taking advantage of that fear. Its like,&quot;Oh no! What are you going to do? You&#039;d better double book JUST IN CASE!!&quot; But really, it probably won&#039;t happen. They&#039;re just playing off your fear. My question is - who profits from double booking? The venue? The people who do the booking - just because they get peace of mind?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am getting married in August. A couple of months ago we were faced with the prospect of booking the location. I think we even read about &#8220;double booking&#8221; in a wedding magazine or online somewhere.</p>
<p>I feel relatively confident that we&#8217;re going to have our location. Its outside, we know the people that own the place, so we should be okay. Even still, there is a slight bit of hesitation &#8211; the &#8220;what if&#8221;.</p>
<p>I feel like double booking is taking advantage of that fear. Its like,&#8221;Oh no! What are you going to do? You&#8217;d better double book JUST IN CASE!!&#8221; But really, it probably won&#8217;t happen. They&#8217;re just playing off your fear. My question is &#8211; who profits from double booking? The venue? The people who do the booking &#8211; just because they get peace of mind?</p>
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		<title>By: Celia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something similar to what happened to your friends happened to me a few years ago.  And you will never believe what the &quot;venue&quot; was.

It was a church fellowship hall!  Plus they did not even bother to contact us!  A close family friend who attended the church had planned on coming to the reunion.  She just happened to overhear someone discussing the other event that was going to be there and called my grandmother 4 days before the date to ask if we had changed our plans and were holding the reunion elsewhere.

What a disaster it would have been if we had shown up, covered dishes and casseroles in hand, to discover that another that another event was also being held there!

An aunt and I called virtually every Church and community center in the area before  we found one that had the day open.  Then we had to contact the far-flung family to tell them of the change and give the driving directions.  All in 4 days!  

But even after this near disastrous experience, I would not feel right about double booking.

I try to live by The Golden Rule.  If I would not want this done to me (and I don&#039;t) then it would be wrong for me to do it to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something similar to what happened to your friends happened to me a few years ago.  And you will never believe what the &#8220;venue&#8221; was.</p>
<p>It was a church fellowship hall!  Plus they did not even bother to contact us!  A close family friend who attended the church had planned on coming to the reunion.  She just happened to overhear someone discussing the other event that was going to be there and called my grandmother 4 days before the date to ask if we had changed our plans and were holding the reunion elsewhere.</p>
<p>What a disaster it would have been if we had shown up, covered dishes and casseroles in hand, to discover that another that another event was also being held there!</p>
<p>An aunt and I called virtually every Church and community center in the area before  we found one that had the day open.  Then we had to contact the far-flung family to tell them of the change and give the driving directions.  All in 4 days!  </p>
<p>But even after this near disastrous experience, I would not feel right about double booking.</p>
<p>I try to live by The Golden Rule.  If I would not want this done to me (and I don&#8217;t) then it would be wrong for me to do it to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 18:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, that is a fantastic cake topper in the photo!

I think booking two venues &quot;just in case&quot; is sleazy.  It&#039;s preventing another couple from booking their wedding (what if your #2 was their #1 choice?) and it&#039;s wasting the time of venue #2, as well as wasting your own money in the form of the deposit.  It&#039;s the same if you did it for business gatherings instead of weddings - someone suffers because you&#039;re being greedy (and it might be you!).  

As other have said, if this became common practice, venue #2 would routinely start overbooking to make up for all the people playing this game.

As to what happened to your friends, simply spread the word.  If venue #1 gets a reputation for overbooking and dropping paying couples, fewer people will book with them, and their business will suffer as a direct result of their own sleazy actions. 

Hiring two contractors and turning one down at the last minute is even slimier.  These are (for the most part) honest, hardworking men and women who do it for a living, and they may have turned down another job, only to find themselves as your &quot;backup&quot; and end up with no job at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, that is a fantastic cake topper in the photo!</p>
<p>I think booking two venues &#8220;just in case&#8221; is sleazy.  It&#8217;s preventing another couple from booking their wedding (what if your #2 was their #1 choice?) and it&#8217;s wasting the time of venue #2, as well as wasting your own money in the form of the deposit.  It&#8217;s the same if you did it for business gatherings instead of weddings &#8211; someone suffers because you&#8217;re being greedy (and it might be you!).  </p>
<p>As other have said, if this became common practice, venue #2 would routinely start overbooking to make up for all the people playing this game.</p>
<p>As to what happened to your friends, simply spread the word.  If venue #1 gets a reputation for overbooking and dropping paying couples, fewer people will book with them, and their business will suffer as a direct result of their own sleazy actions. </p>
<p>Hiring two contractors and turning one down at the last minute is even slimier.  These are (for the most part) honest, hardworking men and women who do it for a living, and they may have turned down another job, only to find themselves as your &#8220;backup&#8221; and end up with no job at all.</p>
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		<title>By: nickel</title>
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		<dc:creator>nickel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 18:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a little different with airlines since they have so many seats on a plane. Inevitably, someone won&#039;t show up, or will change their ticket. If that doesn&#039;t happen, then they can always entice one of the 200 or so passengers into taking an alternative flight. With a hotel or reception hall, there is really only one &quot;seat&quot;, so the odds of a conflict go up astronomically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a little different with airlines since they have so many seats on a plane. Inevitably, someone won&#8217;t show up, or will change their ticket. If that doesn&#8217;t happen, then they can always entice one of the 200 or so passengers into taking an alternative flight. With a hotel or reception hall, there is really only one &#8220;seat&#8221;, so the odds of a conflict go up astronomically.</p>
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		<title>By: Corporate Barbarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corporate Barbarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 17:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would never do this.  I haven&#039;t had this happen to me, ever, and it goes against most of what I believe in.  If the venue isn&#039;t trustworthy, find another venue.  This reminds me of people who make reservations at various restaurants for the same time, just because they don&#039;t know what they&#039;ll feel like eating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would never do this.  I haven&#8217;t had this happen to me, ever, and it goes against most of what I believe in.  If the venue isn&#8217;t trustworthy, find another venue.  This reminds me of people who make reservations at various restaurants for the same time, just because they don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;ll feel like eating.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 17:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way I see it, it&#039;s deceptive. 

If everybody did this... let&#039;s say you have 100 brides for the year, that&#039; 2 weddings a weekend. Instead of choosing your #2 venue (if #1 was booked), you could be looking at your 3rd or 4th choice.  
If this becomes a standard for people I can also see it costing significantly more, because there would be a 50% cancellation rate among these venues.

This happened to our friends too, but they didn&#039;t read the contract... people should clearly read the entire contract and ask questions. We used the Crowne Plaza and I took me 45 minutes to read it, and I didn&#039;t care. They want my business then they should be able to explain &amp; help me understand the necessity for the some of the clauses or how they would be applied. (We all understand acts of God/natural disasters.) If they aren&#039;t helpful the day they take your deposit money, will they suddenly be on your big day?

It&#039;s crummy for all invovled.  For me, honesty, understanding and developing a firm relationship with your vendors made everything 100% perfect.  (Pictures went fast, so we even had the meal served 30 minutes early!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I see it, it&#8217;s deceptive. </p>
<p>If everybody did this&#8230; let&#8217;s say you have 100 brides for the year, that&#8217; 2 weddings a weekend. Instead of choosing your #2 venue (if #1 was booked), you could be looking at your 3rd or 4th choice.<br />
If this becomes a standard for people I can also see it costing significantly more, because there would be a 50% cancellation rate among these venues.</p>
<p>This happened to our friends too, but they didn&#8217;t read the contract&#8230; people should clearly read the entire contract and ask questions. We used the Crowne Plaza and I took me 45 minutes to read it, and I didn&#8217;t care. They want my business then they should be able to explain &amp; help me understand the necessity for the some of the clauses or how they would be applied. (We all understand acts of God/natural disasters.) If they aren&#8217;t helpful the day they take your deposit money, will they suddenly be on your big day?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s crummy for all invovled.  For me, honesty, understanding and developing a firm relationship with your vendors made everything 100% perfect.  (Pictures went fast, so we even had the meal served 30 minutes early!)</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 13:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And then we&#039;re talking about a downward spiral of people constantly double booking and the % of people getting screwed only goes up.... but venues double book and airlines overbook without much complaint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then we&#8217;re talking about a downward spiral of people constantly double booking and the % of people getting screwed only goes up&#8230;. but venues double book and airlines overbook without much complaint.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 13:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be too costly in the case of a wedding but what about a business event? The deposit might be a smaller percentage.

What about for other contractors? Hire two guys and send one home? I don&#039;t like the idea but it&#039;s intriguing to think about at the very least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be too costly in the case of a wedding but what about a business event? The deposit might be a smaller percentage.</p>
<p>What about for other contractors? Hire two guys and send one home? I don&#8217;t like the idea but it&#8217;s intriguing to think about at the very least.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 12:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it would be too costly. Don&#039;t you have to put down a sizable deposit to book a large event at a venue typically?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would be too costly. Don&#8217;t you have to put down a sizable deposit to book a large event at a venue typically?</p>
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		<title>By: couponsaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>couponsaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 12:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is just really sort of dishonest dealings but if you really want to make sure that the big day will be a success. It is better to reserve but just a reserve. Nothing more and nothing less a deal is a deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is just really sort of dishonest dealings but if you really want to make sure that the big day will be a success. It is better to reserve but just a reserve. Nothing more and nothing less a deal is a deal.</p>
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		<title>By: nickel</title>
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		<dc:creator>nickel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 12:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tough call. I&#039;m sure it&#039;s the second venue, and not the bride and groom, that typically get the shaft. In fact, if everyone started booking dual locations, then the practice of double-booking (from the venue side) would probably become even more common, as they&#039;d have to have to have multiple customers on tap to cover the inevitable no-shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tough call. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s the second venue, and not the bride and groom, that typically get the shaft. In fact, if everyone started booking dual locations, then the practice of double-booking (from the venue side) would probably become even more common, as they&#8217;d have to have to have multiple customers on tap to cover the inevitable no-shows.</p>
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		<title>By: Money Beagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Money Beagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 12:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this is dishonest and leads to more of the problems that your friends had.  If venue number 2 is getting regular cancellations because they&#039;re the &#039;back-up&#039;, it won&#039;t be long before they start routinely double-booking with the expectation that one of their bookings will cancel.  These places are depending on the bookings just as much as the people booking them are counting on them.

The cancellation that happened to your friend is a rarity.  I just don&#039;t see tying up unnecessary bookings as a standard practice is the right solution to that problem.  While this might have helped your friend the one time, what if 99 other people had done this and had no problems?  

Most places are going to live up to their commitments and not drop you.  A reputable place will know that to drop someone for a bigger event might pay in the short term, but will end up catching up to them in the long term.  The best way we found when doing our wedding was trying to find places that friends and family had worked with before and trusted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this is dishonest and leads to more of the problems that your friends had.  If venue number 2 is getting regular cancellations because they&#8217;re the &#8216;back-up&#8217;, it won&#8217;t be long before they start routinely double-booking with the expectation that one of their bookings will cancel.  These places are depending on the bookings just as much as the people booking them are counting on them.</p>
<p>The cancellation that happened to your friend is a rarity.  I just don&#8217;t see tying up unnecessary bookings as a standard practice is the right solution to that problem.  While this might have helped your friend the one time, what if 99 other people had done this and had no problems?  </p>
<p>Most places are going to live up to their commitments and not drop you.  A reputable place will know that to drop someone for a bigger event might pay in the short term, but will end up catching up to them in the long term.  The best way we found when doing our wedding was trying to find places that friends and family had worked with before and trusted.</p>
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